https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sch...s-madison/
Interesting to note, Brady's last season is rated as our 5th best team ever. And the schedule for that season was rated as our 4th most difficult ever.

Top 5 highest rated JMU teams:

1981-82: +10.68 (Campanelli)
1992-93: +9.37 (Driesell)
1980-81: +8.28 (Campanelli)
1991-92: +7.70 (Driesell)
2015-16: +6:17 (Brady)

Lowest 5 rated JMU teams:

2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)
2019-20: -8.91 (Rowe)
2018-19: -8.52 (Rowe)

(03-01-2020 10:50 AM)olddawg Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sch...s-madison/
Interesting to note, Brady's last season is rated as our 5th best team ever. And the schedule for that season was rated as our 4th most difficult ever.

Top 5 highest rated JMU teams:

1981-82: +10.68 (Campanelli)
1992-93: +9.37 (Driesell)
1980-81: +8.28 (Campanelli)
1991-92: +7.70 (Driesell)
2015-16: +6:17 (Brady)

Lowest 5 rated JMU teams:

2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)
2019-20: -8.91 (Rowe)
2018-19: -8.52 (Rowe)

I think we all recognize now that to fire Brady without having an actual plan was shortsighted and stupid.

Well at least now I have a statistical analysis of why my interest is at about 0%.

Attended JMU from 2003 - 2007....
2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)

(03-01-2020 11:36 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  Well at least now I have a statistical analysis of why my interest is at about 0%.

Attended JMU from 2003 - 2007....
2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)

Ouch...that hurts

(03-01-2020 11:36 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  Well at least now I have a statistical analysis of why my interest is at about 0%.

Attended JMU from 2003 - 2007....
2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)

You can give thanks to Jeff Bourne for that too. No idea how that guy still has a job. More progressive universities clean house over embarrassing sports runs like this. Especially one that should be a high revenue sport. This used to be a basketball first school.

(03-01-2020 11:28 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 10:50 AM)olddawg Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sch...s-madison/
Interesting to note, Brady's last season is rated as our 5th best team ever. And the schedule for that season was rated as our 4th most difficult ever.

Top 5 highest rated JMU teams:

1981-82: +10.68 (Campanelli)
1992-93: +9.37 (Driesell)
1980-81: +8.28 (Campanelli)
1991-92: +7.70 (Driesell)
2015-16: +6:17 (Brady)

Lowest 5 rated JMU teams:

2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)
2019-20: -8.91 (Rowe)
2018-19: -8.52 (Rowe)

I think we all recognize now that to fire Brady without having an actual plan was shortsighted and stupid.

+1

(03-01-2020 11:28 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 10:50 AM)olddawg Wrote:  https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/sch...s-madison/
Interesting to note, Brady's last season is rated as our 5th best team ever. And the schedule for that season was rated as our 4th most difficult ever.

Top 5 highest rated JMU teams:

1981-82: +10.68 (Campanelli)
1992-93: +9.37 (Driesell)
1980-81: +8.28 (Campanelli)
1991-92: +7.70 (Driesell)
2015-16: +6:17 (Brady)

Lowest 5 rated JMU teams:

2004-05: -14.41 (Keener)
2005-06: -12.74 (Keener)
2006-07: -10.18 (Keener)
2019-20: -8.91 (Rowe)
2018-19: -8.52 (Rowe)

I think we all recognize now that to fire Brady without having an actual plan was shortsighted and stupid.

I have been hard on the admin on the subject of conference alignment. I really am not beating that drum here but... If the same crew is behind a conference move should we be concerned? Maybe, maybr not.

The Brady firing appeared unprepared then and even more so now.

We are not getting communicstions from the AD. We are due a transparent state of the union so we can decide to check out or check in...this comes back to the lack of program vision that some have been asking years for...this is what can happen when we don't get transparency. Is whete we are with mbb changing any minds on transparency?

A disastrous decision that I spoke of ad nauseum before it went down. I watched the MD/MI State game last night and you can see that Turgeon [sic] really values Brady's input.

(03-01-2020 12:57 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  A disastrous decision that I spoke of ad nauseum before it went down. I watched the MD/MI State game last night and you can see that Turgeon [sic] really values Brady's input.

Apparently it was not too helpful. Spoken as a life time Terp fan.

Legit question/ if Brady was so good why is he still an assistant and his name hasn’t even been rumored for any openings? Not trying to be a wise guy- I think Brady was a solid coach and deserves another shot at a head job but is it self imposed based on the age of his children or is he waiting for the perfect situation and therefore he and his reps don’t have his name out there at all? Surprised when St Joes came open or LaSalle he wasn’t even mentioned. I think he has a solid reputation among coaches but what am I missing?

If Brady could have won a game in that CAAT, I think he would have been brought back. I am basing this entirely on my own feelings. Also agree that the replacement should have led to a bigger name, but perhaps firing a coach with 20 wins meant Preparations A-G were a failure and we were left with Preparation H?

It shows out of touch Bourne is to fire a coach coming off of a 21 win season, and only a few years removed from one of only five NCAA tournament appearances in program history. Yes, coaches are a tight group. Nobody came rushing in to a situation that easily appears to be a coaches graveyard to submit themselves to bumbling fool as a boss. The only thing that might improve the prospects this time around is the new arena. But the fools still remain and will hamper the process and the job attraction.

Brady & Lonergan are where they are because the market doesn’t want them as HC’s.

(03-01-2020 03:11 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Legit question/ if Brady was so good why is he still an assistant and his name hasn’t even been rumored for any openings? Not trying to be a wise guy- I think Brady was a solid coach and deserves another shot at a head job but is it self imposed based on the age of his children or is he waiting for the perfect situation and therefore he and his reps don’t have his name out there at all? Surprised when St Joes came open or LaSalle he wasn’t even mentioned. I think he has a solid reputation among coaches but what am I missing?

I would think from a personal point of view he has the best of both worlds now. He is probably making as much if not more money than he did with us without the headaches of being head coach. He gets to devote himself to basketball without all the other baggage and with his reputation can probably always find a spot as an assistant - which provides more security than most assistants have. His son is also at Maryland.

(03-02-2020 09:17 AM)MamaDuke Wrote:  

(03-01-2020 03:11 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Legit question/ if Brady was so good why is he still an assistant and his name hasn’t even been rumored for any openings? Not trying to be a wise guy- I think Brady was a solid coach and deserves another shot at a head job but is it self imposed based on the age of his children or is he waiting for the perfect situation and therefore he and his reps don’t have his name out there at all? Surprised when St Joes came open or LaSalle he wasn’t even mentioned. I think he has a solid reputation among coaches but what am I missing?

I would think from a personal point of view he has the best of both worlds now. He is probably making as much if not more money than he did with us without the headaches of being head coach. He gets to devote himself to basketball without all the other baggage and with his reputation can probably always find a spot as an assistant - which provides more security than most assistants have. His son is also at Maryland.

Makes sense- Matt had some success as a head coach but his skill set and personality may be better as an assistant anyway. Have to deal with a lot of BS in terms of player management and recruiting as head coach and I don't think those were items that Matt was particularly strong at nor enjoyed much.

IMO - Brady's third team was his best. Although he never got along with Denzel.....

(03-01-2020 03:11 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Legit question/ if Brady was so good why is he still an assistant and his name hasn’t even been rumored for any openings? Not trying to be a wise guy- I think Brady was a solid coach and deserves another shot at a head job but is it self imposed based on the age of his children or is he waiting for the perfect situation and therefore he and his reps don’t have his name out there at all? Surprised when St Joes came open or LaSalle he wasn’t even mentioned. I think he has a solid reputation among coaches but what am I missing?

I think it's more likely, than not that Matt will be a head coach again, based on his results, age, and his current position.

That said, it was time for a change. The issue was about the timing of the change, but the selection of the replacement.

(03-02-2020 09:38 AM)Dukester Wrote:  IMO - Brady's third team was his best. Although he never got along with Denzel.....

I remember that season too well. Kind of a turning point for me - in a bad way. It looked like JMU basketball was finally ready to take its place back at (or sort of near) the top of the CAA. Won a bunch of OOC games. Beat up on the bad CAA teams. I sort of remember they might have gotten a few top 25 votes. And then they lost pretty much every tough conference game including a first round tourny loss to W&M.

I thought JMU and Matt Brady parted by mutual decision?

(03-02-2020 11:29 AM)Jeremyboz Wrote:  I thought JMU and Matt Brady parted by mutual decision?

And Keener resigned.