(02-26-2020 11:08 PM)AZcats Wrote:  As if we are going to search through your 13.5k fantasy posts to find it. Whatever was said two years ago means nothing today since Northern State currently has no club hockey team to turn into a D1 varsity team. And, there is no suitable arena in town.

Indeed, even if they HAD a club hockey team two years ago when this purported article was posted (and it might originally have been written years before that, David State does not always look closely at when information came from and whether it is still relevant) ...

... the fact that they do not have one now suggests that even if one existed in the past, it likely wasn't a foundation you could build a varsity team on.

If Miami truly is interested in moving to a more geographically friendly CCHA the WMU would be left out on an island. Maybe they’d see going regional as being the sensible move.

Just trade the two Minnesota schools for the pair. Problem solved.

You get a Michigan Centric conference with a pair of Ohio schools

You get a Minnesota Centric conference with a pair of CO schools plus UND and UNO.

(02-26-2020 02:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Simon Fraser is looking into have varsity men's hockey to D1. Northern State is looking to turn their men's club team to D1 varsity team.

The NCAA told Simon Fraser no Canadian schools with D-I programs.

(02-26-2020 10:16 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(02-26-2020 04:54 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(02-25-2020 10:33 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  I don't know college hockey, but would this make too much sense?

CCHA (8): Bowling Green, Ferris State, Lake Superior State, Miami-OH, Michigan Tech, Northern Michigan, UAH, Western Michigan
NCHC (6): Bemidji State, Minnesota State, Minnesota-Duluth, North Dakota, Omaha, St. Cloud State
WCHA (6): Air Force, Alaska-Anchorage, Alaska-Fairbanks, Arizona State, Colorado College, Denver

... [much good stuff clipped] ...

THANK YOU for reminding people (or letting some know for the first time) what the whole point of the NCHC is!

Quote: ... If the EST schools in the NCHC move to the CCHA, I can see the NCHC poaching Minnesota State and adding Arizona State. ...

It comes up every once in a while on the MAC forum about getting all three MAC schools in the same hockey conference ...

... I am not sure I really want the Redhawks leaving the NCHC. If we get a good team together with good chemistry, we have a better chance at an at-large bid out of the NCHC than out of a deliberately smaller-budget conference. I am not a big supporter of the "let's find a smaller pond where we can be a bigger fish" theory of conference membership, if it happens to be one of my own teams that we are talking about.

Miami belongs in the NCHC. It's a hockey school with a decent amount of resources and a history of success. BGSU was discussing ending their program at the time of the NCHC's founding and apparently turned down an offer to leave the WCHA not too long ago. The MAC schools could have been together if Bowling Green wanted it.
The NCHC wanted Notre Dame BAD. I imagine that MAC island wouldn't look so far away if Notre Dame left Hockey East when offered by the NCHC, or even if a school in Illinois would start a program and take advantage of all the talent they export year after year. Even without more teams in the Rust Belt, I doubt either school would be satisfied with trading North Dakota and Denver in for Lake State and Bemidji.

(02-27-2020 05:24 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(02-26-2020 02:03 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Simon Fraser is looking into have varsity men's hockey to D1. Northern State is looking to turn their men's club team to D1 varsity team.

The NCAA told Simon Fraser no Canadian schools with D-I programs.

Yeah, add this to the long list of facts that do not exist in David's universe.

I don't see Miami wanting to leave the NCHC. Brad Bates (the AD there back in 2011) was a key part of founding the NCHC, and the count Commissioner of the NCHC (Josh Fenton) came from the Miami athletic staff. Miami was crucial in setting up the CBS Sports deal for the NCHC, too. Miami may not like the travel costs that much, but they do like being a part of the best league in the country, which helps in recruiting.

The NCHC has little interest in adding more Minnesota schools - they have that market well covered between SCSU and UMD. BGSU would be more interesting addition as a full D-I school, and Arizona State would be an even better addition, once the Sun Devils get a new arena shovel into the ground.

(02-27-2020 06:12 PM)Mav Wrote:  Miami belongs in the NCHC. It's a hockey school with a decent amount of resources and a history of success. ...
... or even if a school in Illinois would start a program and take advantage of all the talent they export year after year. ...

Yes, the "New CCHA" did not break away from the Alaskas and Huntington because of their low rankings, they broke away because of the cost of the trips. Breaking from the NCHC to the "new CCHA" would be seen as a budget cutting move and a downgrade in the priority of the sport.

Meanwhile most of Miami's American out of state students are from Illinois, a lot of it catering to that gap in the in-state public Illinois universities between the University of Illinois and everyone else. With the best college-bound hockey talent in Illinois all headed out of state, the Redhawks hockey program fits right into that.

I think I got the wrong school. I think it was Winnona State who does have club hockey. CCHA is mostly Minnesota, I could see them to pull the trigger to join the other Minnesota schools.

(02-28-2020 04:06 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think I got the wrong school. I think it was Winnona State who does have club hockey. CCHA is mostly Minnesota, I could see them to pull the trigger to join the other Minnesota schools.

Ohhhhh for ***** sake........

(02-28-2020 04:06 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think I got the wrong school. I think it was Winnona State who does have club hockey. CCHA is mostly Minnesota, I could see them to pull the trigger to join the other Minnesota schools.

Yeah, that's right. Winona State has a club team that re-started this year after it was suspended in 2016. They play in a community arena with very little seating. How is the CCHA mostly Minnesota when only 2 of the 7 schools are in that state. Sure, Winona State has been talking about going D1 for two years (when you allegedly posted an article in this forum) while their team was suspended and doesn't have a D1 arena available to play in. Go ahead and keep making this stuff up.

(02-28-2020 06:07 PM)AZcats Wrote:  How is the CCHA mostly Minnesota when only 2 of the 7 schools are in that state.

See, you don't understand the math that they teach at DSU (David State University). (Edited because I realized, being tired when I first wrote it, that I left out the reasons for the roundings employed ... and even thought they should be OBVIOUS, it may as well be set down.)

2/7 is 0.28. Some hockey countries use the inches system and some use the decimal system, so round that to the closest tenth is 0.3. Round 0.3 to the closest 12th is 0.33333.

Ok, so the prime factors of 10 and 12 are 2, 5 and 3. Round 0.33333 to the closest 5th is 0.4. Round that to the closest sixth (2*3) is 0.5.

Now, 5+6=11, so round that to the closest 11th is 0.54545454....

0.54 is obviously more than half, therefore "mostly Minnesota".

(02-29-2020 04:31 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(02-28-2020 06:07 PM)AZcats Wrote:  How is the CCHA mostly Minnesota when only 2 of the 7 schools are in that state.

See, you don't understand the math that they teach at DSU (David State University). 2/7 is 0.28. Round that to the closest tenth is 0.3. Round 0.3 to the closest 12th is 0.33333. Round that to the closest twentieth is 0.35. Round that to the closest 5th is 0.4. Round that to the closest sixth is 0.5. Round that to the closest 11th is 0.54545454....

0.54 is obviously more than half, therefore "mostly Minnesota".

I actually had a physics teacher in high school who believed that because 0.48 rounds to 0.5, it also rounds to 1 instead of 0.

(02-29-2020 07:09 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  

(02-29-2020 04:31 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(02-28-2020 06:07 PM)AZcats Wrote:  How is the CCHA mostly Minnesota when only 2 of the 7 schools are in that state.

See, you don't understand the math that they teach at DSU (David State University). 2/7 is 0.28. Round that to the closest tenth is 0.3. Round 0.3 to the closest 12th is 0.33333. Round that to the closest twentieth is 0.35. Round that to the closest 5th is 0.4. Round that to the closest sixth is 0.5. Round that to the closest 11th is 0.54545454....

0.54 is obviously more than half, therefore "mostly Minnesota".

I actually had a physics teacher in high school who believed that because 0.48 rounds to 0.5, it also rounds to 1 instead of 0.

I needed a good laugh to start the day.