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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 09:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  still what to do with 4 FBS conference champions that are left out, what happens when it’s an a5 conference champion?

An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 09:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  still what to do with 4 FBS conference champions that are left out, what happens when it’s an a5 conference champion?

An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

I think there is room for a single Access Bowl #13 vs. #14 (or a bumped P5 champ). As said in another thread, it may be necessary to have an overflow spot for P5 Champs and another bowl in the hopper willing to serve as a Semifinal every other year (assuming Rose, Orange, and Sugar can holdfast to NYD).

In the past I thought a tier of bowls for the remaining FBS Champs would be nice, but with the top at larges sucked into the playoff it wouldn’t have great teams.
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 09:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  still what to do with 4 FBS conference champions that are left out, what happens when it’s an a5 conference champion?

An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

At least up to this point there is no discussion about additional access bowls for those who don't make the playoffs.

But I do not see the disruption to the conference lineups if in 4 bowls the PAC, XII, B1G and ACC have contracts in the access bowls. It will just be a #2 pick to those games (it could very well be a #3 or more pick).

It could be set up so the P5 can make even more money on the CFP deal with those access contracts. G5 would just get their normal CFP cut but a chance to have their champ in one of those games.

To be honest as a MAC fan all playoff access is to me is an opportunity for one of those special MAC teams that come around every 5 years or so to get a shot at competing for the national championship. For the AAC they see the new system about being part of the club or a way to cut down recruiting barriers in hopes of fielding a #1 ranked team. But having a major bowl for the champs of conferences like the MAC to play in would integrate it into FBS more.
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 02:19 PM)Crayton Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 09:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  still what to do with 4 FBS conference champions that are left out, what happens when it’s an a5 conference champion?

An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

I think there is room for a single Access Bowl #13 vs. #14 (or a bumped P5 champ). As said in another thread, it may be necessary to have an overflow spot for P5 Champs and another bowl in the hopper willing to serve as a Semifinal every other year (assuming Rose, Orange, and Sugar can holdfast to NYD).

In the past I thought a tier of bowls for the remaining FBS Champs would be nice, but with the top at larges sucked into the playoff it wouldn’t have great teams.

If its #3 and #4 place P5 teams against Top 25-30 G5 champions that would be more winnable than going straight into a playoff.

Also a place for the PAC champion should they not qualify Top 6.....05-stirthepot
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 06:48 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-24-2021 09:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  still what to do with 4 FBS conference champions that are left out, what happens when it’s an a5 conference champion?

An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

At least up to this point there is no discussion about additional access bowls for those who don't make the playoffs.

But I do not see the disruption to the conference lineups if in 4 bowls the PAC, XII, B1G and ACC have contracts in the access bowls. It will just be a #2 pick to those games (it could very well be a #3 or more pick).

It could be set up so the P5 can make even more money on the CFP deal with those access contracts. G5 would just get their normal CFP cut but a chance to have their champ in one of those games.

To be honest as a MAC fan all playoff access is to me is an opportunity for one of those special MAC teams that come around every 5 years or so to get a shot at competing for the national championship. For the AAC they see the new system about being part of the club or a way to cut down recruiting barriers in hopes of fielding a #1 ranked team. But having a major bowl for the champs of conferences like the MAC to play in would integrate it into FBS more.

I just don't see any bowl being interested in being an access bowl that far down in the lineup

I don't see TV being inserted in forking out Extra dollars in a already high priced TV package for NIT bowls with random matchuos that may end up sucking

I don't see Conferences putting themselves in a pool for NIT games when they could arrange them themselves

If your the Citrus Bowl would you rather have the best non playoff SEC and Big 10 teams or #13 v #14

You could get stuck with a really crummy matchup by putting yourself in a pool

Better to me to stick with the sure thing
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-25-2021 08:25 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 06:48 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote:  An excellent question.

I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.

Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.

I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.

The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.

I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

At least up to this point there is no discussion about additional access bowls for those who don't make the playoffs.

But I do not see the disruption to the conference lineups if in 4 bowls the PAC, XII, B1G and ACC have contracts in the access bowls. It will just be a #2 pick to those games (it could very well be a #3 or more pick).

It could be set up so the P5 can make even more money on the CFP deal with those access contracts. G5 would just get their normal CFP cut but a chance to have their champ in one of those games.

To be honest as a MAC fan all playoff access is to me is an opportunity for one of those special MAC teams that come around every 5 years or so to get a shot at competing for the national championship. For the AAC they see the new system about being part of the club or a way to cut down recruiting barriers in hopes of fielding a #1 ranked team. But having a major bowl for the champs of conferences like the MAC to play in would integrate it into FBS more.

I just don't see any bowl being interested in being an access bowl that far down in the lineup

I don't see TV being inserted in forking out Extra dollars in a already high priced TV package for NIT bowls with random matchuos that may end up sucking

I don't see Conferences putting themselves in a pool for NIT games when they could arrange them themselves

If your the Citrus Bowl would you rather have the best non playoff SEC and Big 10 teams or #13 v #14

You could get stuck with a really crummy matchup by putting yourself in a pool

Better to me to stick with the sure thing

Would these bowls (LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator) rather be part of the CFP agreement or would they rather continue to be non-CFP bowl games? I would think they'd rather be in the CFP agreement because that is more prestigious and more secure.

I agree that increasingly the bowls outside of the CFP are starting to look like the NIT. That is why if I am the LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator etc all the more urgency exists to be part of that CFP agreement to define themselves not as NIT bowls but still as major bowl games that have some value.

Conferences would be in my scheme still be arranging it themselves with individual ties to the LV (PAC), Alamo (XII), Citrus (B1G), Gator (ACC) they would at a minimum have those bowls for their champion if they don't qualify for the playoff. If they do qualify for the playoff they become #2, #3, #4 bowls. Contract CFP spots that would go to that conference regardless if those teams are #14, #18 or #22 in the rankings.

Who would that be this year for the P5s?

LV (PAC) #17 Southern Cal
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina

Since the PAC champ didn't qualify for the playoff that gives the PAC two teams in this pool.

LV (PAC) NR Washington vs. #19 San Jose St.
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas vs. #17 Southern Cal
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern vs. NR Ball State
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina vs. NR UAB

The Alamo bowl becomes a blueblood P5 matchup.

The Las Vegas bowl reduces to PAC #3 vs. MWC #1

Citrus becomes B1G #3 vs. MAC #1

Gator becomes ACC #3 vs. CUSA #1

PAC, XII, B1G, ACC all get additional CFP money with the contracts but the other conferences don't gain from their base share.
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RE: G4 Championship?
(06-26-2021 09:37 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 08:25 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 06:48 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote:  I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.

LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.

PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.

Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.

Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.

I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.

I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.

The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.

Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.

The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now

At least up to this point there is no discussion about additional access bowls for those who don't make the playoffs.

But I do not see the disruption to the conference lineups if in 4 bowls the PAC, XII, B1G and ACC have contracts in the access bowls. It will just be a #2 pick to those games (it could very well be a #3 or more pick).

It could be set up so the P5 can make even more money on the CFP deal with those access contracts. G5 would just get their normal CFP cut but a chance to have their champ in one of those games.

To be honest as a MAC fan all playoff access is to me is an opportunity for one of those special MAC teams that come around every 5 years or so to get a shot at competing for the national championship. For the AAC they see the new system about being part of the club or a way to cut down recruiting barriers in hopes of fielding a #1 ranked team. But having a major bowl for the champs of conferences like the MAC to play in would integrate it into FBS more.

I just don't see any bowl being interested in being an access bowl that far down in the lineup

I don't see TV being inserted in forking out Extra dollars in a already high priced TV package for NIT bowls with random matchuos that may end up sucking

I don't see Conferences putting themselves in a pool for NIT games when they could arrange them themselves

If your the Citrus Bowl would you rather have the best non playoff SEC and Big 10 teams or #13 v #14

You could get stuck with a really crummy matchup by putting yourself in a pool

Better to me to stick with the sure thing

Would these bowls (LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator) rather be part of the CFP agreement or would they rather continue to be non-CFP bowl games? I would think they'd rather be in the CFP agreement because that is more prestigious and more secure.

I agree that increasingly the bowls outside of the CFP are starting to look like the NIT. That is why if I am the LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator etc all the more urgency exists to be part of that CFP agreement to define themselves not as NIT bowls but still as major bowl games that have some value.

Conferences would be in my scheme still be arranging it themselves with individual ties to the LV (PAC), Alamo (XII), Citrus (B1G), Gator (ACC) they would at a minimum have those bowls for their champion if they don't qualify for the playoff. If they do qualify for the playoff they become #2, #3, #4 bowls. Contract CFP spots that would go to that conference regardless if those teams are #14, #18 or #22 in the rankings.

Who would that be this year for the P5s?

LV (PAC) #17 Southern Cal
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina

Since the PAC champ didn't qualify for the playoff that gives the PAC two teams in this pool.

LV (PAC) NR Washington vs. #19 San Jose St.
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas vs. #17 Southern Cal
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern vs. NR Ball State
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina vs. NR UAB

The Alamo bowl becomes a blueblood P5 matchup.

The Las Vegas bowl reduces to PAC #3 vs. MWC #1

Citrus becomes B1G #3 vs. MAC #1

Gator becomes ACC #3 vs. CUSA #1

PAC, XII, B1G, ACC all get additional CFP money with the contracts but the other conferences don't gain from their base share.

The Citrus would much rather have first left out of the SEC and Big 10 than a MAC Champion

Any bowl not part of the playoff will be NIT

Just like the NIT at that point its about who can draw and sell tickets
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Ya. I could see a “second tier” but not if you’re forcing unranked G5 teams on those bowls. It’ll be teams ranked in the teens. Maybe you could get the bowls in New Orleans, Detroit, DC, and El Paso to host G4 champs... but then the P5 would stick with their Vegas, Orlando, and San Antonio bowls.
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The AAC and MWC seem to have no trouble getting bowl match ups with the P5. What I think we really need is an agreement between 3 bowls, the MAC, C-USA, and Sunbelt to match up the 1st and 2nd place teams of those conferences.

Top 2 ranked champs play

The remaining champ gets the top 2nd place team

The other 2nd place teams meet.
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RE: G4 Championship?
So I attempted to create matchups for Tier 2 Bowl Games using the CFP Top 25 teams not in a 12 Team CFP, unranked G5 champs, and top at-large (if needed). This is my opinion on the matchups and bowls selected. I would suspect that the CFP committee or separate committe involving the bowls would select the matchups, but for this exercise, I used the Bowl Tie-Ins Matchups as a starting point and slots unfilled became at-large for the remaining teams in the Tier 2 Pool. I tried matching up those matchups based on location and rankings. I'll let you all decide if this would be useful or not.

2017 Tier 2 Bowl Games:
Alamo (Big 12 vs. PAC-12)

#15 TCU (10-3) vs. #13 Stanford (9-4)
Citrus (SEC #1 vs. Big Ten #1)
#16 Michigan St. (9-3) vs. #17 LSU (9-3)
Cheez-It (ACC vs. Big 12)
#14 Notre Dame (9-3) vs. #19 Oklahoma St. (9-3)
Holiday (PAC-12 vs. ACC)
#18 Washington St. (9-3) vs. #22 Virginia Tech (9-3)
Music City (Big Ten vs. SEC)
#21 Northwestern (9-3) vs. #20 Memphis (10-2)
Outback (SEC vs. Big Ten)
#23 Mississippi St. (8-4) vs. Florida Atlantic (10-3)
Duke’s Mayo (ACC vs. SEC)
#24 NC State (8-4) vs. Troy (10-2)
Texas (Big 12 vs. SEC)
#25 Boise St. (10-3) vs. Toledo (11-2)

2018 Tier 2 Bowl Games:
Alamo (Big 12 vs. PAC-12)

#13 Washington St. (10-2) vs. #15 Texas (9-4)
Citrus (SEC #1 vs. Big Ten #1)
#14 Kentucky (9-3) vs. #22 Northwestern (8-5)
Cheez-It (ACC vs. Big 12)
#16 West Virginia (8-3) vs. #20 Syracuse (9-3)
Holiday (PAC-12 vs. ACC #3)
#17 Utah (9-4) vs. #21 Fresno St. (11-2)
Outback (SEC vs. Big Ten)
#18 Mississippi St. (8-4) vs. UAB (10-3)
Music City (Big Ten vs. SEC)
#23 Missouri (8-4) vs. Northern Illinois (8-5)
Texas (Big 12 vs. SEC)
#24 Iowa St. (8-4) vs. #19 Texas A&M (8-4)
Duke’s Mayo (ACC vs. SEC)
#25 Boise St. (11-2) vs. Appalachian St. (10-2)

2019 Tier 2 Bowl Games:
Outback (SEC vs. Big Ten)

#18 Minnesota (10-2) vs. #12 Auburn (9-3)
Citrus (SEC #1 vs. Big Ten #1)
#14 Michigan (9-3) vs. #13 Alabama (10-2)
Cheez-It (ACC vs. Big 12)
#15 Notre Dame (10-2) vs. #21 Cincinnati (10-3)
Music City (Big Ten vs. SEC)
#16 Iowa (9-3) vs. #20 Appalachian St. (12-1)
Holiday (PAC-12 vs. ACC)
#19 Boise St. (12-1) vs. #22 USC (8-4)
Texas (Big 12 #3 vs. SEC)
#23 Navy (10-2) vs. Florida Atlantic (10-3)
Duke’s Mayo (ACC vs. SEC)
#24 Virginia (9-4) vs. Miami (OH) (8-5)
Alamo (Big 12 vs. PAC-12)
SMU (10-2) vs. #25 Oklahoma St. (8-4)

2020 Tier 2 Bowl Games*:
Cheez-It (ACC vs. Big 12)

#13 North Carolina (8-3) vs. #21 Oklahoma St. (7-3)
Citrus (SEC #1 vs. Big Ten #1)
#14 Northwestern (6–1) vs. #16 BYU (10-1)
Outback (SEC vs. Big Ten)
#15 Iowa (6-2) vs. #19 Louisiana (9-1)
Holiday (PAC-12 vs. ACC)
#18 Miami (FL) (8-2) vs. #17 USC (5-1)
Alamo (Big 12 vs. PAC-12)
#25 Oregon (4-2) vs. #20 Texas (6-3)
Texas (Big 12 vs. SEC)
#22 San Jose St. (7-0) vs. Army (9-2)
Duke’s Mayo (ACC vs. SEC)
#23 NC State (8-3) vs. UAB (6-3)
Music City (Big Ten vs. SEC)
#24 Tulsa (6-2) vs. Ball State (6-1)
* = Assuming no opt outs
06-27-2021 07:18 PM
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