(06-25-2021 08:25 PM)solohawks Wrote: (06-25-2021 06:48 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (06-25-2021 12:31 PM)solohawks Wrote: (06-25-2021 12:10 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (06-25-2021 11:54 AM)solohawks Wrote: An excellent question.
I do think their will still be bowls outside the CFP structure just as there is still and NIT, CBI, and CIT. Their importance will continue to decrease to the level of the current NIT, CBI, and CIT as will the volume of these bowls, but they will exist.
Right now the current structure displaces 12 teams from their conference bowl allotment. Under the new structure, 12 teams will be displaced from their conference bowl allotment.
I dont think much will change for the G5 bowls as they are mostly against each other anyways, and like now, most years only 1 G5 team will be displaced to participate in the larger CFP structure.
The Citrus Bowl can still make good money, especially if they keep their NYD slot, my matching up the best Big 10 and SEC teams outside of the CFP structure. Will players opt out? Sure, but its still a good football game that can be played with 2 very interested fanbases in a tourist destination city.
I think the PAC champ would like to play in a CFP access bowl if they don't make the playoffs.
LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator could have contracts with the PAC, XII, B1G, ACC respectively and host the 4 conference champs not in bowls.
PAC then could have the Las Vegas Bowl as #2 and also put their champ in the Alamo Bowl if it doesn't qualify for the playoff.
Same with the ACC, have the Gator #2 and place the champ in the Citrus.
Of course somebody would have to take the MAC Champion and they might get shipped out west more often than not with all the southern based FBS conferences.
I don't think there will be Access bowls but that us just my hunch.
I don't see an appetite to schedule 2 to 4 more games and disrupt conference lineups even further.
The SEC and Big 10 are still going to want to protect the Citrus Bowl and Outback Bowl as that is money that only those 2 conferences get. Same with the Big 12 and Pac 12 with the Alamo Bowl.
Let conferences handle their own "NIT" bowls no need to get involved in that.
The New Orleans Bowl can still take the #1 Sunbelt team after the CFP/Access Bowl like they do now.
The Citrus can still get first SEC and Big 10 selection after CFP like they do now
At least up to this point there is no discussion about additional access bowls for those who don't make the playoffs.
But I do not see the disruption to the conference lineups if in 4 bowls the PAC, XII, B1G and ACC have contracts in the access bowls. It will just be a #2 pick to those games (it could very well be a #3 or more pick).
It could be set up so the P5 can make even more money on the CFP deal with those access contracts. G5 would just get their normal CFP cut but a chance to have their champ in one of those games.
To be honest as a MAC fan all playoff access is to me is an opportunity for one of those special MAC teams that come around every 5 years or so to get a shot at competing for the national championship. For the AAC they see the new system about being part of the club or a way to cut down recruiting barriers in hopes of fielding a #1 ranked team. But having a major bowl for the champs of conferences like the MAC to play in would integrate it into FBS more.
I just don't see any bowl being interested in being an access bowl that far down in the lineup
I don't see TV being inserted in forking out Extra dollars in a already high priced TV package for NIT bowls with random matchuos that may end up sucking
I don't see Conferences putting themselves in a pool for NIT games when they could arrange them themselves
If your the Citrus Bowl would you rather have the best non playoff SEC and Big 10 teams or #13 v #14
You could get stuck with a really crummy matchup by putting yourself in a pool
Better to me to stick with the sure thing
Would these bowls (LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator) rather be part of the CFP agreement or would they rather continue to be non-CFP bowl games? I would think they'd rather be in the CFP agreement because that is more prestigious and more secure.
I agree that increasingly the bowls outside of the CFP are starting to look like the NIT. That is why if I am the LV, Alamo, Citrus, Gator etc all the more urgency exists to be part of that CFP agreement to define themselves not as NIT bowls but still as major bowl games that have some value.
Conferences would be in my scheme still be arranging it themselves with individual ties to the LV (PAC), Alamo (XII), Citrus (B1G), Gator (ACC) they would at a minimum have those bowls for their champion if they don't qualify for the playoff. If they do qualify for the playoff they become #2, #3, #4 bowls. Contract CFP spots that would go to that conference regardless if those teams are #14, #18 or #22 in the rankings.
Who would that be this year for the P5s?
LV (PAC) #17 Southern Cal
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina
Since the PAC champ didn't qualify for the playoff that gives the PAC two teams in this pool.
LV (PAC) NR Washington vs. #19 San Jose St.
Alamo (XII) #20 Texas vs. #17 Southern Cal
Citrus (B1G) #14 Northwestern vs. NR Ball State
Gator (ACC) #13 North Carolina vs. NR UAB
The Alamo bowl becomes a blueblood P5 matchup.
The Las Vegas bowl reduces to PAC #3 vs. MWC #1
Citrus becomes B1G #3 vs. MAC #1
Gator becomes ACC #3 vs. CUSA #1
PAC, XII, B1G, ACC all get additional CFP money with the contracts but the other conferences don't gain from their base share.