https://spectator.org/a-trump-bernie-bra...he-nation/

"...More than nine in 10 Americans say they would vote for a presidential candidate nominated by their party who happened to be black, Catholic, Hispanic, Jewish or a woman. Such willingness drops to eight in 10 for candidates who are evangelical Christians or are gays or lesbians. Between six and seven in 10 would vote for someone who is under 40 years of age, over 70, a Muslim or an atheist.

Only the socialists failed to make the cut...."

Article suggests a Sanders nomination could save the Democratic Party by destroying the leftists trying to take it over.

I contend the bern would choose to knife dems one final round and run (I) if they jerk him around this time....

Ja, mid-July is gonna be a hoot and a half in Mini-Mimosa...

this is why I'm voting for the bern in the 'sip primary....it's a sadistic gimme putt....

(02-16-2020 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I contend the bern would choose to knife dems one final round and run (I) if they jerk him around this time....
Ja, mid-July is gonna be a hoot and a half in Mini-Mimosa...
this is why I'm voting for the bern in the 'sip primary....it's a sadistic gimme putt....

I could never, ever vote for Bernie for dog catcher, let alone anything more consequential. There's a nonzero chance that my vote just might help him win, and absolute certainty that I would be mortified if that happened.

I usually vote in the primary where I think I can eliminate the greater evil. I voted for Hillary in the democrat primaries in 2008 and 2016 for that reason. I'd like to do that this time, but there is no lesser evil.

Owl#’s simplistic rationale through the years...

Jimmy Carter was evil, Walter Mondale was evil, Michael Dukakis was evil, Bill Clinton was evil, Al Gore was evil, Barack Obama was evil, Hillary Clinton was evil; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be evil

In the meantime, the Republicans were, and continue to be, graciously stupid.

(02-16-2020 11:59 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I contend the bern would choose to knife dems one final round and run (I) if they jerk him around this time....
Ja, mid-July is gonna be a hoot and a half in Mini-Mimosa...
this is why I'm voting for the bern in the 'sip primary....it's a sadistic gimme putt....

I could never, ever vote for Bernie for dog catcher, let alone anything more consequential. There's a nonzero chance that my vote just might help him win, and absolute certainty that I would be mortified if that happened.

I usually vote in the primary where I think I can eliminate the greater evil. I voted for Hillary in the democrat primaries in 2008 and 2016 for that reason. I'd like to do that this time, but there is no lesser evil.

it's tough to argue < evil across the board....that's a collective of ding-a-lings....however, the one exception the bern could possibly provide, is he would be the only one to break ranks and run 3rd party....toss in his base that will either sit at the house or vote for DJT in protest (again), I'm all-in on giving my single vote to the bern in the primary for that reason alone...

#operationChaosII

(02-16-2020 12:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Owl#’s simplistic rationale through the years...

Jimmy Carter was evil, Walter Mondale was evil, Michael Dukakis was evil, Bill Clinton was evil, Al Gore was evil, Barack Obama was evil, Hillary Clinton was evil; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be evil

In the meantime, the Republicans were, and continue to be, graciously stupid.

JC, WM, MD, AG, BO were all Peter Principle'd incompetent....at least billy bob had clue relative to economics...HC is the fk'n devil...

you're a hoot, man...enjoy gettin' your cods kicked up your throat again in Nov....

(02-16-2020 12:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Owl#’s simplistic rationale through the years...
Jimmy Carter was evil, Walter Mondale was evil, Michael Dukakis was evil, Bill Clinton was evil, Al Gore was evil, Barack Obama was evil, Hillary Clinton was evil; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be evil
In the meantime, the Republicans were, and continue to be, graciously stupid.

Obviously, based upon your overly simplistic mischaracterization, you haven't paid attention. Let me clarify.

Jimmy Carter pursued evil policies and was incompetent, Walter Mondale pursued evil policies, Michael Dukakis pursued evil policies, Bill Clinton was a good president (I would put him #2 to Reagan over that time frame), Al Gore pursued evil policies, Barack Obama pursued evil policies, Hillary Clinton pursued evil policies but not to the extent of some of the others (perhaps moderated by Bill); whoever supports massive redistribution of income and wealth, single-payer health care, draconian gun controls, and abortion on demand (including late-term) is evil, which pretty much includes the current democrat field.

Republicans were, and continue to be, both stupid and milquetoast wusses. I disagree with Donald Trump on many things, including the wall and tariffs, but at least he has some backbone.

(02-16-2020 02:00 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 12:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Owl#’s simplistic rationale through the years...
Jimmy Carter was evil, Walter Mondale was evil, Michael Dukakis was evil, Bill Clinton was evil, Al Gore was evil, Barack Obama was evil, Hillary Clinton was evil; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be evil
In the meantime, the Republicans were, and continue to be, graciously stupid.

Obviously, based upon your overly simplistic mischaracterization, you haven't paid attention. Let me clarify.

Jimmy Carter pursued evil policies and was incompetent, Walter Mondale pursued evil policies, Michael Dukakis pursued evil policies, Bill Clinton was a good president (I would put him #2 to Reagan over that time frame), Al Gore pursued evil policies, Barack Obama pursued evil policies, Hillary Clinton pursued evil policies but not to the extent of some of the others (perhaps moderated by Bill); whoever supports massive redistribution of income and wealth, single-payer health care, draconian gun controls, and abortion on demand (including late-term) is evil, which pretty much includes the current democrat field.

Republicans were, and continue to be, both stupid and milquetoast wusses. I disagree with Donald Trump on many things, including the wall and tariffs, but at least he has some backbone.

I think someone who supports concentration of wealth, healthcare for only those who can afford it, gun access for all, and government control of a women’s right to choose to be evil; but then we’ll just have to disagree.

(02-16-2020 03:05 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think someone who supports concentration of wealth, healthcare for only those who can afford it, gun access for all, and government control of a women’s right to choose to be evil; but then we’ll just have to disagree.

I would argue that giving government control of wealth, health care, guns, or women is evil. My opposition to abortion is limited to late-term abortion on demand, which strikes me as at least the first cousin of murder, and I would argue that instead of trying to pass draconian laws, the right should focus on making adoption a more attractive option.

Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

(02-16-2020 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I contend the bern would choose to knife dems one final round and run (I) if they jerk him around this time....

Ja, mid-July is gonna be a hoot and a half in Mini-Mimosa...

this is why I'm voting for the bern in the 'sip primary....it's a sadistic gimme putt....

I was thinking the same thing, dems had better watch how they change the rules to let Bloomers get into the race so late, if they tick Bernie off he could be huge thorn in their side and hand Trump a 40 state landslide.

(02-16-2020 03:23 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 11:16 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  I contend the bern would choose to knife dems one final round and run (I) if they jerk him around this time....

Ja, mid-July is gonna be a hoot and a half in Mini-Mimosa...

this is why I'm voting for the bern in the 'sip primary....it's a sadistic gimme putt....

I was thinking the same thing, dems had better watch how they change the rules to let Bloomers get into the race so late, if they tick Bernie off he could be huge thorn in their side and hand Trump a 40 state landslide.

I would bet money Bernie doesn't run 3rd party, but it also doesn't matter if they broker convention it to the little Oligarch Trump will win a 40 state landslide no matter what Bernie does. I love when you hear those people who complained about Bernie "not being a Democrat" proving beyond a shadow of a doubt they were always full of crap being ok with former Republican who endorsed George W Bush's reelection campaign being the nominee.

I'd be okay with Magic Grandpa starting a third party or joining the Greenies to syphon off 30% of the Demo's votes for the next 20 or 30 years. Thank God for First Past the Post voting.

(02-16-2020 03:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

it's only gonna get better going into Nov.....

(02-16-2020 03:47 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 03:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

it's only gonna get better going into Nov.....

Yep, a 22 year old thinking he knows the ways of the world while living at home with mommy and daddy. His parents must be college professors that's why he's so bright. LOL

(02-16-2020 12:25 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Owl#’s simplistic rationale through the years...

[b]Jimmy Carter was evil, Walter Mondale was evil, Michael Dukakis was evil, Bill Clinton was evil, Al Gore was evil, Barack Obama was evil, Hillary Clinton was evi[/b]l; whoever gets the Democratic nomination will be evil

In the meantime, the Republicans were, and continue to be, graciously stupid.

Where has he ever stated that specifically? I'll wait.

(02-16-2020 03:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

Fat dumb and drunk and all that...

(02-16-2020 05:42 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 03:47 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 03:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

it's only gonna get better going into Nov.....

Yep, a 22 year old thinking he knows the ways of the world while living at home with mommy and daddy. His parents must be college professors that's why he's so bright. LOL

Wait, he's only 22?? That explains a LOT.

(02-16-2020 03:22 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Mensa calling Owls posts simplistic
Bwahahaha. That's like coco the gorilla saying einstein is simplistic in sign language.
Awesome just awesome.

No one said Mensa was a genius, well except for Mensa.

(02-16-2020 03:15 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(02-16-2020 03:05 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I think someone who supports concentration of wealth, healthcare for only those who can afford it, gun access for all, and government control of a women’s right to choose to be evil; but then we’ll just have to disagree.

I would argue that giving government control of wealth, health care, guns, or women is evil. My opposition to abortion is limited to late-term abortion on demand, which strikes me as at least the first cousin of murder, and I would argue that instead of trying to pass draconian laws, the right should focus on making adoption a more attractive option.

Late term abortions account for 1.3% of all and are most often limited to cases involving the health of the mother or the child.