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More Flynn
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal...hael-flynn
Does anyone else feel like this is just personal and a waste of taxpayers' money? The feds just look really bad with their requests.
"...The move by Judge Emmet Sullivan comes a day after federal prosecutors filed a rare Sunday motion to delay a number of approaching deadlines that would ultimately make Flynn’s Feb. 27 sentencing unlikely. The delay also comes weeks after Flynn withdrew his guilty plea.
In their filing, prosecutors argued that Flynn’s former attorneys should testify after he claimed to have received ineffective assistance from them. Flynn had previously hired the premier D.C. law firm, Covington & Burling. Federal lawyers also asked the judge to order that Flynn has his attorney-client privileges in his communications with Covington & Burling waived...."
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02-11-2020 11:11 AM |
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b0ndsj0ns
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RE: More Flynn
Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well. If a low level drug dealer did what Flynn did, plead guilty for a sweetheart likely no jail deal to flip on people and then completely changed his story and ruined any credibility as a witness no one would argue we should just let that guy go and face no consequences for that.
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02-11-2020 11:37 AM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well.
It’s unclear if the judge will allow this to go trial, or not. But one thing is clear: the prosecutors have had this case simmering on the stove for almost 3 years and still aren’t ready. Show me a “low-level drug deal” that sat around that long.
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02-11-2020 11:45 AM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well. If a low level drug dealer did what Flynn did, plead guilty for a sweetheart likely no jail deal to flip on people and then completely changed his story and ruined any credibility as a witness no one would argue we should just let that guy go and face no consequences for that.
I think the judge knows the prosecution intimidated the defendant into a plea through the use of threats against his son and by using the vast resources of the government to grind down the defendants financial ability to defend himself. Isnt this the case where the judge refused to accept a guilty plea? How often does that happen? Im thinking its pretty darn rare.
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02-11-2020 11:47 AM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 11:45 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well.
It’s unclear if the judge will allow this to go trial, or not. But one thing is clear: the prosecutors have had this case simmering on the stove for almost 3 years and still aren’t ready. Show me a “low-level drug deal” that sat around that long.
I'm sure I probably could if I felt like digging that much. Courts move slow as hell, and he signed a broad cooperation agreement to get his sweetheart plea deal. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who flip in drug cases and mob cases that because of the glacial speed the criminal justice system moves at have sat around far longer.
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02-11-2020 11:53 AM |
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RE: More Flynn
In Summary, the prosecution rail-roaded Flynn into concocting a guilty plea.
1. They were ready to set sentencing at probation and no jail time
2. Flynn changed lawyers, and all hell broke lose
3. New lawyer shows the previous attorney for Flynn had a conflict with Fara, and should have notified FLynn
4. New lawyer demands all Brady material from Weismann and prosecution
5. Judge tells prosecution to hand it over
6. Weismann says there is no Brady material
7. Judge threatens prosecution
8. Weismann says "oh, that Brady material"
9. Weismann hands it over, and admits that the notes for the two FBI detectives who interviewed Flynn are misidentified.
10. Weismann changes his mind, and decides Flynn should get months of jail time now.
11. Lawyer for FLynn says that they may file to remove his guilty plea
12. Weismann says "I was just kidding, We'll go back to probation only if you would agree to stop skull dragging us
13. Judge says lets set a sentencing date then
14. Weismann says 'ok, but we're going to need to delay as we need more time"
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02-11-2020 12:00 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 11:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well. If a low level drug dealer did what Flynn did, plead guilty for a sweetheart likely no jail deal to flip on people and then completely changed his story and ruined any credibility as a witness no one would argue we should just let that guy go and face no consequences for that.
I think the judge knows the prosecution intimidated the defendant into a plea through the use of threats against his son and by using the vast resources of the government to grind down the defendants financial ability to defend himself. Isnt this the case where the judge refused to accept a guilty plea? How often does that happen? Im thinking its pretty darn rare.
Oh the judge didn't like this guilty plea at all, but not because he is sympathetic to Flynn.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...sentencing
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02-11-2020 12:01 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 12:01 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:47 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well. If a low level drug dealer did what Flynn did, plead guilty for a sweetheart likely no jail deal to flip on people and then completely changed his story and ruined any credibility as a witness no one would argue we should just let that guy go and face no consequences for that.
I think the judge knows the prosecution intimidated the defendant into a plea through the use of threats against his son and by using the vast resources of the government to grind down the defendants financial ability to defend himself. Isnt this the case where the judge refused to accept a guilty plea? How often does that happen? Im thinking its pretty darn rare.
Oh the judge didn't like this guilty plea at all, but not because he is sympathetic to Flynn.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018...sentencing
I havent read that link, because its the guardian, but I'm betting it was an old link back when Sullivan got on the case. If thats the case, it is completely irrelevant now.
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02-11-2020 12:20 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 11:53 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:45 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (02-11-2020 11:37 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: Let him withdraw his plea and then try him for the original charge and charge him with perjury as well.
It’s unclear if the judge will allow this to go trial, or not. But one thing is clear: the prosecutors have had this case simmering on the stove for almost 3 years and still aren’t ready. Show me a “low-level drug deal” that sat around that long.
I'm sure I probably could if I felt like digging that much. Courts move slow as hell, and he signed a broad cooperation agreement to get his sweetheart plea deal. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who flip in drug cases and mob cases that because of the glacial speed the criminal justice system moves at have sat around far longer.
And I would be suspicious of the state’s evidence in those cases, too.
The basic deal is this: when prosecutors have their evidence lined up and their witnesses lined up, they WANT to go to trial. That hasn’t happened in the Flynn case. I’m not exactly sure why, but it’s weird. When prosecutors seek delay, it leads to questions like the ones raised by Flynn’s new attorney.
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02-11-2020 12:22 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
Leave the man alone. It's not enough that the DOJ bankrupted him? I hope they reverse any findings of guilt and he sues their asses off.
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02-11-2020 12:29 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
Basically they are charging him with perjury when they don't think he intentionally lied even though they tried to set him up.
They could probably get him for being an unregistered agent, but they haven't charged him with that. They are trying to get him to flip on others so they can get them on that charge. Which is all pretty much a bs charge since it is Turkey, one of our allies.
Flynn ticked people off when he worked for the Obama administration and those same people seem to still be going after him.
It just strikes me as personal vendetta. If this were any low level drug dealer, the prosecution would long ago have dropped the charge because of their repeated misconduct on this case.
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02-11-2020 01:12 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
Resistance doesn't appear to be purged yet.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/mue...mendation/
"Prosecutors in charge of the federal case against Roger Stone may have lied to the Department of Justice about their lengthy prison sentence recommendation for Stone, according to a new report...."
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02-11-2020 03:03 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
Looks like Flynn prosecutors failed to turn over additional exculpatory evidence, and now the prosecution and Mueller team is getting called out by Concord (you know, the ham samwich that they indicted) for additional exculpatory evidence they have had for 18 months, and team dipsh*t has no explanation why they never turned it over.
Mueller's idiots have made mistake after mistake, and its always been in their favor.
This has been a bad day for the rogue Mueller team.
(This post was last modified: 02-11-2020 03:31 PM by UofMstateU.)
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02-11-2020 03:29 PM |
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RE: More Flynn
(02-11-2020 03:03 PM)bullet Wrote: Resistance doesn't appear to be purged yet.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/11/mue...mendation/
"Prosecutors in charge of the federal case against Roger Stone may have lied to the Department of Justice about their lengthy prison sentence recommendation for Stone, according to a new report...."
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02-11-2020 03:33 PM |
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