(02-09-2020 12:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 10:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 10:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 05:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I’m far too American to survive under socialism. I’m addicted to luxuries like toilet paper, bread, and shoes.

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None of which they have in Europe, Japan, Australia and Canada.

Are you really AOC?

All villains are Jannes and Jambres, all of them.

They all seek to oppose what is good and holy with tricks performed for their own profit.

these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate 

Boston University Econ Major

(02-09-2020 09:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 12:44 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-09-2020 10:01 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 10:04 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 05:05 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I’m far too American to survive under socialism. I’m addicted to luxuries like toilet paper, bread, and shoes.

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None of which they have in Europe, Japan, Australia and Canada.

Are you really AOC?

All villains are Jannes and Jambres, all of them.

They all seek to oppose what is good and holy with tricks performed for their own profit.

these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate 

Boston University Econ Major

"One cannot serve both God and mammon."

There won't be any billionaires under socialism.. There'll be people in power and the wealthy, unfortunately they'll be the same people, AKA people in the government, like Senators, Congress people, and the President. There won't be a free market, we'll all get what those in power deem necessary for us to survive.

Sorry Jack.. I didn't bust my hump just so Jimmy down the block can work 15 hours at McDonalds and I work 60+ a week building buildings can have the same level of life.

(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  BJ, totally uncheck and unregulated capitalism is a fantasy boogieman that does not exist. Even the most hard core capitalists agree there has to be some level of regulation.

The Bernie types spend a lot of time attacking that imaginary/fantasy boogieman.

Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Do I agree with Bernie on everything? Absolutely not, but he's the only person in either party that I believe stands by and actually wants to get corporate money out of the political process. I also know that just by the way our 2 party adversarial system works no president no matter what type of landslide he wins by is going to get thru everything he wants. The healthcare model I want is the Bismarck model, which is obviously very different from what Bernie wants, but my pragmatic belief is to get there you have to shift the overton window so far towards Bernie's plan that the GOP is willing to agree to Bismarck as a compromise to stop it. Otherwise I see no reason to believe the GOP power brokers would ever even contemplate agreeing to Bismarck.

(02-07-2020 11:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Peter Buttigig's dad was a big time marxists and commie lover.

Truth

Wasn't his Dad a professor?

(02-10-2020 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Peter Buttigig's dad was a big time marxists and commie lover.

Truth

Wasn't his Dad a professor?

same thing

(02-10-2020 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Peter Buttigig's dad was a big time marxists and commie lover.

Truth

Wasn't his Dad a professor?

Yea, he was.


So, yes, that's kind of redundant.

(02-07-2020 11:37 AM)shere khan Wrote:  Peter Buttigig's dad was a big time marxists and commie lover.

Truth

LOL. If we are labeling billionaire ass kisser and wine cave enthusiast Wall-street Petey as a commie lover then I really don't know what level of kiss ass to corporations and rich dudes you'd have to be to not get labeled that.

(02-10-2020 02:55 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  BJ, totally uncheck and unregulated capitalism is a fantasy boogieman that does not exist. Even the most hard core capitalists agree there has to be some level of regulation.

The Bernie types spend a lot of time attacking that imaginary/fantasy boogieman.

Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Dude get real, we have perhaps the most heavily regulated system in the history of mankind. You need a team of lawyers to get through all the red tape to do anything.

NO ONE supports a totally unregulated system.

Political corruption is another subject entirely.

(02-10-2020 03:42 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:55 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  BJ, totally uncheck and unregulated capitalism is a fantasy boogieman that does not exist. Even the most hard core capitalists agree there has to be some level of regulation.

The Bernie types spend a lot of time attacking that imaginary/fantasy boogieman.

Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Dude get real, we have perhaps the most heavily regulated system in the history of mankind. You need a team of lawyers to get through all the red tape to do anything.

NO ONE supports a totally unregulated system.

Political corruption is another subject entirely.

No regulations and political corruption are very much related, especially since the Citizens United ruling.

(02-10-2020 03:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:42 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:55 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  BJ, totally uncheck and unregulated capitalism is a fantasy boogieman that does not exist. Even the most hard core capitalists agree there has to be some level of regulation.

The Bernie types spend a lot of time attacking that imaginary/fantasy boogieman.

Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Dude get real, we have perhaps the most heavily regulated system in the history of mankind. You need a team of lawyers to get through all the red tape to do anything.

NO ONE supports a totally unregulated system.

Political corruption is another subject entirely.

No regulations and political corruption are very much related, especially since the Citizens United ruling.

Long live the boogie man

(02-10-2020 04:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:42 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:55 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-08-2020 08:27 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  BJ, totally uncheck and unregulated capitalism is a fantasy boogieman that does not exist. Even the most hard core capitalists agree there has to be some level of regulation.

The Bernie types spend a lot of time attacking that imaginary/fantasy boogieman.

Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Dude get real, we have perhaps the most heavily regulated system in the history of mankind. You need a team of lawyers to get through all the red tape to do anything.

NO ONE supports a totally unregulated system.

Political corruption is another subject entirely.

No regulations and political corruption are very much related, especially since the Citizens United ruling.

Long live the boogie man

It's not about me calling corporations boogie men. They are doing what is in their best interests, trying to make as much profit as possible. The citizens united ruling has said corporate political expenditures are free speech protected by the first amendment. With that as the law of the land, the largest corporations would be quite frankly stupid to not flex their financial muscle. As for whether a particular corporation would want more or less regulation in a given industry, it would depend. Do the existing or new potential regulations make it harder for competitors to enter the market? Linked below would be an instance where I would say there are 3 corporations that are pretty happy with all the bureaucratic hurdles in the way. Manipulating patent law and the FDA conveniently making it difficult/impossible for generics of insulin to reach the market has allowed the wholesale price of Humulin to go from around $175 for a 20 ML vial about 15 years ago to $1,487 in 2019.

https://www.statnews.com/2019/02/19/no-g...-to-blame/

(02-10-2020 06:28 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 04:20 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:57 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 03:42 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(02-10-2020 02:55 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  Really isn't, especially when the "government regulators" in most of these industries are bought and sold by these corporations and most of the politicians on both sides are bought and sold by either the George Soros' of the world or the Koch Brothers. The one Trump message that did actually resonate with me was the "drain the swamp" thing, but I think that was me foolishly hoping he'd advocate and push for getting dark money out of politics. How much he was opposed by the big money people on the right gave me this hope, but that was a pipe dream. I certainly know Mayor Petey with his 40 or so billionaire donors and wine cave parties doesn't care about getting dark money out of politics.

Dude get real, we have perhaps the most heavily regulated system in the history of mankind. You need a team of lawyers to get through all the red tape to do anything.

NO ONE supports a totally unregulated system.

Political corruption is another subject entirely.

No regulations and political corruption are very much related, especially since the Citizens United ruling.

Long live the boogie man

It's not about me calling corporations boogie men. They are doing what is in their best interests, trying to make as much profit as possible. The citizens united ruling has said corporate political expenditures are free speech protected by the first amendment. With that as the law of the land, the largest corporations would be quite frankly stupid to not flex their financial muscle. As for whether a particular corporation would want more or less regulation in a given industry, it would depend. Do the existing or new potential regulations make it harder for competitors to enter the market? Linked below would be an instance where I would say there are 3 corporations that are pretty happy with all the bureaucratic hurdles in the way. Manipulating patent law and the FDA conveniently making it difficult/impossible for generics of insulin to reach the market has allowed the wholesale price of Humulin to go from around $175 for a 20 ML vial about 15 years ago to $1,487 in 2019.

https://www.statnews.com/2019/02/19/no-g...-to-blame/

I wasn't talking about corporation at all. Next time quote someone who was instead.