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RE: MBB Game # 24 - Hofstra
(02-01-2020 09:08 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(02-01-2020 05:18 PM)billymac Wrote:  Hofstra shooting 64% this half. Kante is 7 for 7.
He shot 6 for 6.

At the time, he was being given credit for 7 for 7 by the official scorer. Someone then corrected it to the person who had actually scored the bucket and he ended up 6 for 6.

Being a little picky, aren't we Evan?
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(02-01-2020 06:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  Trolls aren't welcome here, especially cowards who didn't bother to post a month ago when we smoked Hofstra.

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Acknowledged your win in Jan but now is now. Feel free to post anywhere you like, but fact is we took it to ya and I'd welcome a rematch in the CAA Tournament.

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(02-01-2020 10:05 PM)Zorch Wrote:  I saw two of those turnovers on passes to Hamilton. I can't help but wonder why, since he wouldn't shoot it even if he caught it. Those passes should have been going to Knight in those situations.

In both cases, it was a Scott pass to Hamilton where Hamilton was cutting to the basket and Scott was intending the pass to go to a spot up shooter. If Hamilton was Ayesa in both cases they would have been great passes, but Scott has to know who he's passing to and adjust accordingly. Hamilton would have been open for three in both cases, but as you said, no way he's shooting that shot.
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MBB Game # 24 - Hofstra
What’s hard for me is that it seems like the same mistakes are being repeated over and over again with little progress or maybe even repercussions in terms of playing time.

Much of it is basketball fundamentals. For example, one big reason Scott turns the ball over so much is he forces something, jumps for no reason and then throws the ball wildly or carelessly away because he has no where to go while in the air. If I did that more than once in HS my butt would have been on the bench after the 2nd time faster than you could say the word turnover and it would have stayed there for a long time. Not leaving the air to pass, and knowing where I was going to pass the ball, was something from day 1 my coaches preached at me.

However, Thornton continues to do it and be allowed to do it, and Dane is a former PG. I can’t imagine he ran his offense that way as a player.

For an experienced team we continue to play loose and free with the ball on offense and aren’t crisp in our execution on offense much of the time. We need to get this adjusted ASAP or we won’t make it long at the tourney unfortunately.

Let’s take care of the little things exceptionally well and then the big things will fall into place.

Absolutely, some days the shots fall and some days they don’t, but everyday we can value the basketball, run the offense crisply, play hard on both ends, rotate, communicate, rebound, box out, get our feet set and ready to shoot, move our feet on D, pass crisply, etc....

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RE: MBB Game # 24 - Hofstra
By far, the worst home performance of the year...as Dane and Nathan both said after the game on our Internet page, we just weren't prepared and played
with no drive. Our defense, strong in the first three games of this home stand, was missing and, as well, Hofstra shot the lights out all night.

Scott and Van Vliet have been playing through terrible shooting slumps the past four games. Scott is pressing and looks sloppy and undecided much of the time. Andy looked tired last night and was taking poor shots while uncompetitive, for the first time all season, on the boards.

The only area we've done well the past two games is foul shooting (27 for 32).

I do look for this team to bounce back on the tough road trip next week and hopefully win at least one of the two games.
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Watching the game yesterday, I was struck by what seemed to be a strategy to not take the ball inside. I'll let you guys who are more knowledgeable comment, but when we have two bigs, and they have one, why not go inside more? Another observation: when only one of our bigs is in the game, he will often take an outside 3 with no one under the basket. We seem to lose an awful lot of rebounds that way. Thoughts?
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Not just about shooting, Andy had ONE rebound in 30 minutes on the court. His production is crucial.
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(02-02-2020 09:27 AM)GoTribe70 Wrote:  Watching the game yesterday, I was struck by what seemed to be a strategy to not take the ball inside. I'll let you guys who are more knowledgeable comment, but when we have two bigs, and they have one, why not go inside more? Another observation: when only one of our bigs is in the game, he will often take an outside 3 with no one under the basket. We seem to lose an awful lot of rebounds that way. Thoughts?

Your comments are spot on. None of us on here know why it is this way. Only the coaching staff can answer that one. My personal theory is that a lot of it is predicated on the fact that Fischer is a first year coach and thus is not as willing to put the hammer down as hard - combined with the fact that Knight is a senior who is first-team all-CAA and a POY candidate with NBA aspirations (who thus wants to play a certain way to show NBA scouts his complete skillset) and Andy Van Vliet is a 5th-year senior who likewise wants to show scouts his outside shooting abilities (I guess an inside post game is assumed when you are a seven-footer). I think a more experienced head coach might have been playing the twin towers differently all year (and thus would not have been as popular with the players - but who might have been winning more).
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I'd argue that we did just that when we played at Hofstra. AVV & Knight were a 2 man show there. Which makes it all the more puzzling to me what we ran at home, unless there's defensive adjustments that limited our ability to do the same thing.
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(02-01-2020 10:05 PM)Zorch Wrote:  3. Hofstra textbook charged -- but it was called a block.
I can't guarantee it's the play you're talking about, but once your announcer said it was a block because you were in the restricted area. Then he looked at the replay and said he couldn't tell if you were in the restricted area, and the replay didn't show his feet for me to tell.

(02-01-2020 11:08 PM)billymac Wrote:  
(02-01-2020 09:08 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  
(02-01-2020 05:18 PM)billymac Wrote:  Hofstra shooting 64% this half. Kante is 7 for 7.
He shot 6 for 6.

At the time, he was being given credit for 7 for 7 by the official scorer. Someone then corrected it to the person who had actually scored the bucket and he ended up 6 for 6.

Being a little picky, aren't we Evan?
The statistics make mistakes and correct them, and sometimes are wrong after the game as shown by the box score. Maybe we should consider individual statistics subject to change for a couple of minutes after they happen.

When you won at Hofstra, AVV made 3 twos and 4 threes while being below his average with 6 rebounds, so you didn't win because of his plays by the basket. Knight (7), Loewe (6), Barnes (4), and Blair (4) made more twos than AVV. AVV made more threes than the rest of your team combined. I'm not saying two bigs is a good or a bad strategy against Hofstra, but AVV wasn't used as a big then.
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team was not in the game yesterday...

that said, was my first trip back to Williamsburg in awhile, and I spent the game in the new precarious pavilion, which was quite enjoyable.
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(02-02-2020 02:25 PM)EvanJ Wrote:  When you won at Hofstra, AVV made 3 twos and 4 threes while being below his average with 6 rebounds, so you didn't win because of his plays by the basket. Knight (7), Loewe (6), Barnes (4), and Blair (4) made more twos than AVV. AVV made more threes than the rest of your team combined. I'm not saying two bigs is a good or a bad strategy against Hofstra, but AVV wasn't used as a big then.

Yes and no. AVV was shooting the 3 from the top of the key when he wasn't feeding Knight. Maybe semantics, but he sparked the team by being the unguardable big at the 3 point line. IIRC, Buie was guarding him (maybe in zone?) at the 3 point line and AVV was just shooting over him. This could have been the difference in defense this time, I don't remember seeing AVV guarded by many shorter players in Williamsburg. At Hofstra, AVV's twos came when Knight was subbed out and we went inside to AVV.

All this is from memory, so I could be wrong, but the way that Hofstra defended our two bigs was significantly different in Williamsburg. At Hofstra, it seemed like every time Nathan didn't get a rebound for us, AVV did. I know he only had 6, but Knight didn't leave a lot for the rest of our team in either game.
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