(02-12-2020 10:25 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I think folks better watch out with Xavier.. They are now 16-9. Have 2 easier games- @ St John's and home with DePaul. But then Nova, @ Georgetown, @ Providence, and Butler.

If they get the 2 easier games and lose the 4 tougher games they're 18-13. But with only the win @ Seton Hall as a guaranteed Q1 win. Really only @ DePaul, @ St John's would be only 2 that would be possible Q1's(right now split). I think X would need at least 1 win in the BET there to make the dance.

After the X loss tonight, the next two games (at SJU and hosting VU) are huge.

Creighton with a big with at SHU.

Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

(02-13-2020 09:33 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

(02-13-2020 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:33 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

(02-13-2020 02:08 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:33 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

Xavier is going to be really close. They can not afford to lose @ St John's. Need the possible Q1 win there.... Their resume for a team in this conference is as thin as it possibly could be right now.
5 conference wins so far-
67 St John's
53 Georgetown
62 Providence

@ 16 Seton Hall
@ 66 DePaul

Their remaining 6 games have 5 Q1 chances and then DePaul....

They have to 100% beat DePaul. And I think they have to go at least 2-3 in the 5 Q1 games. @ SJ, Nova, @ Geo, @ PC, and Butler

(02-13-2020 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:08 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:33 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

Xavier is going to be really close. They can not afford to lose @ St John's. Need the possible Q1 win there.... Their resume for a team in this conference is as thin as it possibly could be right now.
5 conference wins so far-
67 St John's
53 Georgetown
62 Providence

@ 16 Seton Hall
@ 66 DePaul

Their remaining 6 games have 5 Q1 chances and then DePaul....

They have to 100% beat DePaul. And I think they have to go at least 2-3 in the 5 Q1 games. @ SJ, Nova, @ Geo, @ PC, and Butler

I think they find a way to get in.

(02-13-2020 02:26 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:08 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:33 AM)MU in MKE Wrote:  Well at least St. Johns has a bit of a buffer to be better than 75 in NET after their win against Prov. As long as they don't get blown out at home, they should be ok to remain Q1/Q2 away/home games for the rest of the league.

yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

Xavier is going to be really close. They can not afford to lose @ St John's. Need the possible Q1 win there.... Their resume for a team in this conference is as thin as it possibly could be right now.
5 conference wins so far-
67 St John's
53 Georgetown
62 Providence

@ 16 Seton Hall
@ 66 DePaul

Their remaining 6 games have 5 Q1 chances and then DePaul....

They have to 100% beat DePaul. And I think they have to go at least 2-3 in the 5 Q1 games. @ SJ, Nova, @ Geo, @ PC, and Butler

I think they find a way to get in.

I think they have to get 3 more wins. They have a path for sure. Them at 18-14 have very little shot to get in.

(02-13-2020 02:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:26 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:08 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 09:49 AM)stever20 Wrote:  yeah but at a cost of probably ending any hope of Providence making the tourney. They can severely wound Xavier on Monday night as well...

I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

Xavier is going to be really close. They can not afford to lose @ St John's. Need the possible Q1 win there.... Their resume for a team in this conference is as thin as it possibly could be right now.
5 conference wins so far-
67 St John's
53 Georgetown
62 Providence

@ 16 Seton Hall
@ 66 DePaul

Their remaining 6 games have 5 Q1 chances and then DePaul....

They have to 100% beat DePaul. And I think they have to go at least 2-3 in the 5 Q1 games. @ SJ, Nova, @ Geo, @ PC, and Butler

I think they find a way to get in.

I think they have to get 3 more wins. They have a path for sure. Them at 18-14 have very little shot to get in.

I think it could go either way, completely depending on what other teams near them do. Right now they're right in the mix. 3 I think get's them in. 2, I wouldn't count them out just because the BE is a BEast and it is known. X's OOC record speaks for itself.

I wouldn't place any bets on them getting in if they got 2 though. lol

(02-13-2020 04:19 PM)MU in MKE Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:28 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:26 PM)Bogg Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:16 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-13-2020 02:08 PM)Bogg Wrote:  I wrote Providence off a while ago, they're good but they had to walk such a tightrope to recover from their OOC it was simply too much of a task. Getting in 6 with Xavier would be fine.

Xavier is going to be really close. They can not afford to lose @ St John's. Need the possible Q1 win there.... Their resume for a team in this conference is as thin as it possibly could be right now.
5 conference wins so far-
67 St John's
53 Georgetown
62 Providence

@ 16 Seton Hall
@ 66 DePaul

Their remaining 6 games have 5 Q1 chances and then DePaul....

They have to 100% beat DePaul. And I think they have to go at least 2-3 in the 5 Q1 games. @ SJ, Nova, @ Geo, @ PC, and Butler

I think they find a way to get in.

I think they have to get 3 more wins. They have a path for sure. Them at 18-14 have very little shot to get in.

I think it could go either way, completely depending on what other teams near them do. Right now they're right in the mix. 3 I think get's them in. 2, I wouldn't count them out just because the BE is a BEast and it is known. X's OOC record speaks for itself.

I wouldn't place any bets on them getting in if they got 2 though. lol

X's OOC wasn't good enough to overcome a 7-11 conference record IMO. 11-2 with no Q1 wins. Cincy, vs UConn, and @ TCU. Right now #132 OOS SOS.

If anyone's interested, I do my own bracketology.

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2020/...te-2-14-20

I have 6 in (SH, But, Vill, Creig, Marq, Xav). GTown is on the radar.

(02-14-2020 08:05 PM)schmolik Wrote:  If anyone's interested, I do my own bracketology.

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2020/...te-2-14-20

I have 6 in (SH, But, Vill, Creig, Marq, Xav). GTown is on the radar.

I like it. Austin Peay over Duke (in your bracket).

Good work, Schmolik.

How about eight Big East teams?

https://www.bloggingthebracket.com/2020/...te-2-21-20

Providence and Georgetown are certainly the most questionable. Providence has a ton of good wins but a ton of bad losses. Georgetown's resume stacks up well with teams from other conferences but they were swept by Providence and Providence's wins were better.

For Providence I feel like it's just all record for them. If they can get to 18-15 or better, they're in the tourney. If they can't, they won't get in the tourney. Tomorrow vs Marquette is a HUGE game for them.

starting to get close to things...

Here is Lunardi today with his specific matchups-
Butler 7 MW Greensboro vs Utah St, Maryland
Seton Hall 3 E Albany vs Hofstra, Iowa/Cincy
Xavier 10 E Cleveland vs W Virginia, Dayton
Providence 12 S FF Sacramento vs NC St, Michigan, Auburn
Villanova 3 S Albany vs Colgate, Arizona/Rhode Island
Marquette 7 S Tampa vs E Tenn St, Florida St
Creighton 3 W St Louis vs UC Irvine, BYU/USC/Oklahoama

For Providence, great you made it. good luck making it out of 1st weekend vs that.
love what Nova draws.
The Xavier draw would be surreal.
brutal draw for Butler IMO. Utah St playing really well. Maryland might be a top 5 team right now.

(02-28-2020 09:50 AM)stever20 Wrote:  starting to get close to things...

Here is Lunardi today with his specific matchups-
Butler 7 MW Greensboro vs Utah St, Maryland
Seton Hall 3 E Albany vs Hofstra, Iowa/Cincy
Xavier 10 E Cleveland vs W Virginia, Dayton
Providence 12 S FF Sacramento vs NC St, Michigan, Auburn
Villanova 3 S Albany vs Colgate, Arizona/Rhode Island
Marquette 7 S Tampa vs E Tenn St, Florida St
Creighton 3 W St Louis vs UC Irvine, BYU/USC/Oklahoama

For Providence, great you made it. good luck making it out of 1st weekend vs that.
love what Nova draws.
The Xavier draw would be surreal.
brutal draw for Butler IMO. Utah St playing really well. Maryland might be a top 5 team right now.

And good draws for Hall and Creighton.

totally agree with you.

I think the big question will be if Seton Hall is a 3 seed, are they allowed to remain in MSG, or are they shipped out, just like they did Nova in 2018.

Bracketville guy makes no sense in his brackets...

in seed list he's got Nova 9 and Seton Hall 10. But has Nova going to Indianapolis, while Seton Hall gets MSG.

(02-28-2020 11:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Bracketville guy makes no sense in his brackets...

in seed list he's got Nova 9 and Seton Hall 10. But has Nova going to Indianapolis, while Seton Hall gets MSG.

I think a few (well, especially you, specifically) could probably poke holes or highlight inconsistencies in seeding/locations. They are all just guesses at this point (but within ranges, definitely).

I, too, am curious about the locations. It's unlikely the BE gets a #1 seed, so it will be interesting to see if they try and avoid placing our top seeds in that bracket altogether; however, that means the possibility of getting multiple top seeds from the BE in the same bracket (which I also know they try and avoid to an extent as well).

It's a complicated puzzle, but it's also not perfect; something will inevitably give in order to make it all come together.

(02-28-2020 02:26 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(02-28-2020 11:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Bracketville guy makes no sense in his brackets...

in seed list he's got Nova 9 and Seton Hall 10. But has Nova going to Indianapolis, while Seton Hall gets MSG.

I think a few (well, especially you, specifically) could probably poke holes or highlight inconsistencies in seeding/locations. They are all just guesses at this point (but within ranges, definitely).

I, too, am curious about the locations. It's unlikely the BE gets a #1 seed, so it will be interesting to see if they try and avoid placing our top seeds in that bracket altogether; however, that means the possibility of getting multiple top seeds from the BE in the same bracket (which I also know they try and avoid to an extent as well).

It's a complicated puzzle, but it's also not perfect; something will inevitably give in order to make it all come together.

from the rules-
Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.

So if you have Creighton, Nova, and Seton Hall all top 3- they must be in different regions.

(02-28-2020 02:55 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(02-28-2020 02:26 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  

(02-28-2020 11:45 AM)stever20 Wrote:  Bracketville guy makes no sense in his brackets...

in seed list he's got Nova 9 and Seton Hall 10. But has Nova going to Indianapolis, while Seton Hall gets MSG.

I think a few (well, especially you, specifically) could probably poke holes or highlight inconsistencies in seeding/locations. They are all just guesses at this point (but within ranges, definitely).

I, too, am curious about the locations. It's unlikely the BE gets a #1 seed, so it will be interesting to see if they try and avoid placing our top seeds in that bracket altogether; however, that means the possibility of getting multiple top seeds from the BE in the same bracket (which I also know they try and avoid to an extent as well).

It's a complicated puzzle, but it's also not perfect; something will inevitably give in order to make it all come together.

from the rules-
Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.

So if you have Creighton, Nova, and Seton Hall all top 3- they must be in different regions.

And they all might be avoided in the East bracket.