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The Trojans -- A Mid-Major Powerhouse Program
That is what Scott Cross is quoted as saying he wants to build at TROY University. Mentioned by Ben Creighton and Steve Shields SEVERAL times during last night's ESPN+ webcast. Enough times to irritate me. If Troy has any hope of doing that, it rests on Coach Cross. They will have to stop getting their butts whooped in LITTLE ROCK first!
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Well, I would say it would be unlikely, but Coach Cross is a good enough coach to do it if he gets a few breaks.
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I like the sound of that, but for a program a little closer to home. I wouldn't have believed it, just a couple of short months ago, but I really think Darrell has put together a roster that makes this seem possible. If we can sneak into the NCAA tournament this year, next year's team with everyone back will certainly get some national pub. Once we get the ball rolling and if Darrell is in it for the long hall....

I may be getting delusional again, but it's a lot more fun than bitching over 20 loss seasons.
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The parts are here for this season, and REALLY there for next season when we have six seniors (if everything stays the same). But then we have to prove that we can fill in the gaps, and develop the upcoming players to step into leadership roles. But things are moving the right direction. I am optimistic.
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I truly believe our chances of being a Mid-Major Powerhouse are a lot better than Troy's. We are in a major metro area with a large population and plenty of successful businesses that could support us. While their may not be a more fickle or bandwagon-jumping population of "fans" in the country, Central Arkansas has shown they will support a winner. We're only talking about a 5600 seat arena. Filling that thing for key games and getting it 3/4 full for run-of-the-mill games does not appear impossible. Will it happen? Probably not. But, there is a better chance of it happening here than in Troy, Alabama.
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Except that Troy is a college town.
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(01-23-2020 05:44 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Except that Troy is a college town.

I bet you can find examples to support your side of the equation, but the first Mid-Major Powerhouses that come to my mind are Gonzaga (Spokane), Wichita State, and Creighton (Omaha), and, at least, recently Loyola (Chicago) and San Diego State.
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In what I am calling college towns, the university is frequently the main identity of the town, and usually one of the bigger employers. The community as a whole has a stake in the school. In a city Little Rock's size the university is not as much of factor.
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(01-23-2020 04:05 PM)mjs Wrote:  I like the sound of that, but for a program a little closer to home. I wouldn't have believed it, just a couple of short months ago, but I really think Darrell has put together a roster that makes this seem possible. If we can sneak into the NCAA tournament this year, next year's team with everyone back will certainly get some national pub. Once we get the ball rolling and if Darrell is in it for the long hall....

I may be getting delusional again, but it's a lot more fun than bitching over 20 loss seasons.

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(01-23-2020 06:40 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  In what I am calling college towns, the university is frequently the main identity of the town, and usually one of the bigger employers. The community as a whole has a stake in the school. In a city Little Rock's size the university is not as much of factor.

Little Rock is a capital city. A university BETTER be a "Major Factor"
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Well, I lived in Russellville for the three years I went to school there, and the town's economy and social life is far more tied to the school than is the case in Little Rock. Just so many more options in Little Rock. Troy and Russellville are both around the 20-30000 range.
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(01-23-2020 09:55 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  Well, I lived in Russellville for the three years I went to school there, and the town's economy and social life is far more tied to the school than is the case in Little Rock. Just so many more options in Little Rock. Troy and Russellville are both around the 20-30000 range.

Well, it's certainly true that the majority of people in Little Rock have never embraced UALR at the "home team". But, on the other hand, we really only need a small percentage of the central Arkansas population to support us in order to fill the Stephens Center.
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Yes, I was about to add that comment. You have to get a much smaller percentage of the population to jump on the bandwagon when the city is six figures or so. And I figure Troy is in the shadow of the Auburn-Alabama twin towers as much as we are.
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Remember, not too long ago, Little Rock basketball became a "big thing" for a brief few moments. We had at least one bona fide SELLOUT SRO crowd at the jack and two others above 5000. We are having a similarly good season and DARRELL WALKER is a name that means something at least to the older folks and the young people that they influence. It has been and remains possible to have a sellout crowd and at least a whiff of that old 1980's Barnhill-type magic that Darrell was a part of.

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(01-24-2020 12:42 PM)Robert C Wrote:  Remember, not too long ago, Little Rock basketball became a "big thing" for a brief few moments. We had at least one bona fide SELLOUT SRO crowd at the jack and two others above 5000. We are having a similarly good season and DARRELL WALKER is a name that means something at least to the older folks and the young people that they influence. It has been and remains possible to have a sellout crowd and at least a whiff of that old 1980's Barnhill-type magic that Darrell was a part of.

https://www.fox16.com/news/local-news/ua...n-2015-16/

I am quite surprised that Darrell's name (and now success) hasn't brought more people out to the Jack. If it's like the Beard year, folks may eventually realize "hey, they're pretty good" by the end of January, and we might get some good crowds in February. Still, as bad as attendance has been, I'll have to see it to believe it. Maybe a successful season, with everyone coming back, might lead to excitement and increased season ticket sales for next year. It's just hard for me to be optimistic about attendance after having the same issues for the 38 years I've lived here.

Be interesting if we can get close to a sell-out against ASU in 2 weeks. A win tomorrow and we could easily go into that game 11-2 and with ASU not too far behind. Of course, it depends on the weather (can't be too nice, rainy, or too cold) and how many "fans" chose to stay home and watch the hogs. ASU is playing well, so their fans will help with attendance. We just need 3500 of our fans, to get close to 5000 in the arena.
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