(01-29-2020 12:19 PM)EagNBran Wrote: (01-23-2020 09:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote: (01-23-2020 09:19 PM)TTT Wrote: (01-23-2020 08:25 PM)usmbacker Wrote: (01-23-2020 10:22 AM)TTT Wrote: Do you know how many CUSA Championships Bower won during his last four years at USM: 2004, 2005, 2006, and 2007? ZERO. Nada. Goose egg...but he sure was getting us 7-5-type seasons...and that isn't good enough for us, which is exactly why Hopson is on the hot seat.
Bower won 9 games the year before he was let go. Fedora only won 7,7, 8 games in his first three years. The Karma created by the way Jeff Bower was treated will live with USM football. I agree Hopson is not the answer, but as broke as USM is, he isn't going anywhere.
I'll say it again: Bower won zero CUSA championships his last 4 years at USM. That's why he was fired. It was necessary. Who knows how things would've turned out had he not been fired. The Fedora hire proved to be a good hire because in his 4 years he won a championship in 2011...the first one since 2003. The problem was the conservative hire of Eloss Johnson. And it's so obvious we've made the same mistake with Hopson. Hop has just benefitted and gained more W's due to the fact that CUSA is a shell of it's former self.
I dont believe you realize the same could be said for CUSA 2005-2009. As a conference CUSA just wasnt very good and was just a shell of itself, without Louisville, Cincy and TCU. So a person looking at it with out any skin in the game could point out Fedora got most of his wins just as Hopson has.
Sorry, but even the early years of CUSA 2.0 were far better than most of the garbage we play against now. Our conference may have no had ranked teams, but the talent level was far better across the board.
While CUSA 2.0 was overall better than the last couple years. I think 2014, 2015, 2016 the conference championship game doesnt change with any 2.0 CUSA team playing in 3.0 during those years. Marshall and Tech were very good teams in 2014, same can be said for Western and S. Miss in 2015, and again in 2016, Western and Tech in 2016
But that was not what I said...
my point was compared to Jeff Bower, Larry Fedora got most of his wins vs worst talent/schools . The same way Hopson has.
Larry Fedora didnt have a lot of "good wins" in 3 out of 4 seasons.
2008
S.Miss had 7 wins with 3 of those over SBC schools, 2 of those had a .500 record
UCF and UAB both 4-8, SMU 1-11 and ECU 9-5
2009
s. Miss had 7 wins
FCS, Marshall 7-6, UCF, 8-5, Memphis 2-10, Tulane 3-9, Tulsa 5-7, Virg. 3-9
2010
S.Miss had 8 wins
Kansas 3-9, TECH 5-7, Marshall 5-7, Memphis 1-11, Tulane 4-8, UFC, 11-3, Houston 5-7, FCS