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Under/Over for Rowe Retention
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RE: Under/Over for Rowe Retention
(01-22-2020 01:14 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Ughhh, right up there with Lebron saying he's the greatest of all-time. Amazing how so many people who "shouldn't be at this level" have such a hard time winning games at this level.

Oh, I don't know. Based on the limited sample I've seen, I think he might be on to something. They perhaps shouldn't be at this level...07-coffee3
01-22-2020 04:58 PM
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01-22-2020 06:48 PM
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I don't know the context, but it is pretty easy to see this as Lewis's attempt to stick up for coach Rowe, much like Curry said that he, Nation and Cooke chose JMU because of Lou. Also, the second part about getting used to it is very likely about the noise surrounding the program, with coach being on the hot seat. The Juniors have been hearing it for years, the Freshmen are learning to block it out. I don't think it is reference to being used to losing.

We are all frustrated, but I'm not sure this quote shows any real chemistry issues.
01-22-2020 07:50 PM
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Yeah, I didn’t think he meant getting used to losing. That’s just what I hear when he talks that nonsense on the record.
01-22-2020 08:10 PM
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This is the text I sent to my buddy about that quote which was shocking to see in print this morning.

Yeah I was surprised by that quote. I don’t doubt that they have some talent and maybe a better coach at whatever the level could get more out of them. I’ve always given Rowe the benefit of the doubt. I thought the freedom with the players would eventually pay off but it hasn’t and has led to some bad habits.

If you are that talented go out and win but the problem is they really don’t know how to win no matter how old they get.

I think Rowe loves his players too much- he’s too close to them if that’s possible. He’s still approaching it as the guy who was their advocate when he was a lead recruiter as an assistant. I think they are loyal to him but it doesn’t yield winning players or a winning result. Good coaches show more tough love than he is comfortable showing and I also think the players he likes are guys like him/ talented but quiet. That is ok but a good team needs some vocal leadership. They need some gritty tough and even at times dickhead kids who will cut your heart out for the W. I bet if Rowe looks back to even the good JMU teams that he was on they had that whether it be via Lefty via Chuck Driessel via Ritter Culuko Culicerto McLinton Venson etc.

I just can’t imagine being Lewis and saying that- it’s tone deaf. I guess he’s saying that they have felt the outside pressure for years and the negativity from some around Rowe and the program. I get that to a degree but you have to know that at 1-6 coming off two seasons where you had a losing record that no matter how much talent you have you have no place to say something like that but you haven’t proven anything on the court.

I think I’ll chalk it up to a guy who isn’t interviewed often and didn’t measure his words. I can see now why coaches generally don’t make players available to the media.
01-22-2020 08:20 PM
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There's a lot of ways to take that quote and none of them are good.
There's not a part of that quote that talks about being happy at JMU. Being grateful JMU wanted him. We have football players on the field that played at the highest level, yet talk about how thankful and grateful they are to be here.
I agree that the comment comes across as tone deaf. If they were winning games and the fans were ungrateful that's one thing. But when you are 1-6 in CAA play and we should be grateful to have these guys... give me a break. I guess we should be getting on our hands and knees and kissing their feet because we could be winless in CAA play.
Perhaps these guys just don't have enough school pride. Perhaps they do, but that comment sure doesn't come off that way.
And if Rowe truly loves this school, he'll do everything in his power to talk these guys into staying if he gets fired.
01-22-2020 10:05 PM
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Considering the "powerhouses" Matt was offered from, the most depressing part of that quote is how far our program has fallen. For him to think JMU is not even on a level with these schools means we truly are at the bottom of the barrel.

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01-23-2020 11:19 AM
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TBF, ACC and Big10 teams trying to get Lewis to transfer in the offseason and he stuck around only to see the season go off the rails. Probably were the frustration and that comment came from.
01-23-2020 11:42 AM
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To be frank?
01-23-2020 11:58 AM
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(01-23-2020 11:58 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  To be frank?

To be fair...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55t0lnp_8M
01-23-2020 12:03 PM
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(01-23-2020 11:42 AM)CAAObserver Wrote:  TBF, ACC and Big10 teams trying to get Lewis to transfer in the offseason and he stuck around only to see the season go off the rails. Probably were the frustration and that comment came from.

What teams were trying to get him to transfer? Don't me wrong, he's a very good mid major guard and many teams would love to have him. Just not at major programs where 3 & 4 type guards aren't that hard to find.

As honest as his comment may have been, I don't think there would be many coaches that wouldn't discipline the person that is supposed to be the team leader. "Thanks for having my back, but not a wise thing to say in public and does nothing to help your team. Billy will be starting in your place on Thurs."
01-23-2020 01:26 PM
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RE: Under/Over for Rowe Retention
(01-23-2020 12:03 PM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 11:58 AM)HyperDuke Wrote:  To be frank?

To be fair...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55t0lnp_8M

Thanks, hadn’t ever seen that acronym before.
01-23-2020 02:17 PM
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I’ll be at this game tonight with ZERO expectations. The only way I can watch JMU MBB...
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I find it extremely difficult to believe any Big 10 or ACC team has been interested in Lewis. Maybe a lower AAC or A-10 could have had some interest.

Update: if I were coaching you this team, he'd come off the bench much like AJ Davis was utilized.
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(01-23-2020 05:12 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I find it extremely difficult to believe any Big 10 or ACC team has been interested in Lewis. Maybe a lower AAC or A-10 could have had some interest.


The accountants have conveyed these falsehoods many times over the years to shift attention away from the feckless hiring decisions they made.
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(01-23-2020 06:05 PM)Dukeman2 Wrote:  
(01-23-2020 05:12 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  I find it extremely difficult to believe any Big 10 or ACC team has been interested in Lewis. Maybe a lower AAC or A-10 could have had some interest.


The accountants have conveyed these falsehoods many times over the years to shift attention away from the feckless hiring decisions they made.

That got a reaction. 03-hissyfit
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Given the poll, 30% of the voters think Rowe's fate is sealed. Granted, at this point we'll probably see if the 16% that voted for <6 are correct because the chances of this team even getting to 6 wins is very low.
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