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(01-17-2020 05:34 PM)Statefan Wrote:  I would guess more like"

20 Million - Duke
12 Million - UNC
10 Million - Syracuse and Louisville
8 Million - ND
6 Million - NCSU and UVa
4 Million - Miami, FSU, Pitt, and Wake
2 Million - Clemson, VT, and BC

That's closer to $6.3 million per school and represents a rough 20% of the contract value.

When folks toss out the 80% for football number that's a rounded number. If the B10 is 80%, then the SEC is probably 85% football, while the ACC is closer to 75% of its value in football.

I would not be surprised if Duke's value was closer to 25 million, Carolina's closer to 18 million, Syracuse and Louisville toward 13 and ND 2 million more - that $19 million which represents 24% of the contract putting football at 76%

Duke has taken up the mantle of basketball villain the same way the Yankees do that in baseball. People will watch in hopes to see them lose.


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(01-18-2020 01:41 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Doesn't the ESPN contract have "look-ins?" I seem to remember them being every 5 years.

The additional conference games will benefit the ACCN more. I don't see anything in those games that would prompt ESPN to pay more money.


In the same sense that you after purchasing a car you can have a "look in" with the dealer after 5 years. Name one time a conference got a substantial pay increase on a look in.
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(01-18-2020 01:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 01:41 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Doesn't the ESPN contract have "look-ins?" I seem to remember them being every 5 years.

The additional conference games will benefit the ACCN more. I don't see anything in those games that would prompt ESPN to pay more money.


In the same sense that you after purchasing a car you can have a "look in" with the dealer after 5 years. Name one time a conference got a substantial pay increase on a look in.

Look-ins are misunderstood. They are NOT opportunities to renegotiate the existing contract. They ARE opportunities to sell something new. For example, the ACCN launch was the result of a look-in.

What might the ACC be able to "sell" in a future look-in?
* How about sub-contracting excess inventory to CBS? After all, they are losing the SEC contract...
* Would ESPN offer more money for more P5 games? They did in the past and probably would again, but it might not be very much.
* Would they offer more for better (for TV) divisional alignment? Perhaps.

Just some throwing ideas out... spit-balling, if you will.
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(01-18-2020 02:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 01:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 01:41 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Doesn't the ESPN contract have "look-ins?" I seem to remember them being every 5 years.

The additional conference games will benefit the ACCN more. I don't see anything in those games that would prompt ESPN to pay more money.


In the same sense that you after purchasing a car you can have a "look in" with the dealer after 5 years. Name one time a conference got a substantial pay increase on a look in.

Look-ins are misunderstood. They are NOT opportunities to renegotiate the existing contract. They ARE opportunities to sell something new. For example, the ACCN launch was the result of a look-in.

What might the ACC be able to "sell" in a future look-in?
* How about sub-contracting excess inventory to CBS? After all, they are losing the SEC contract...
* Would ESPN offer more money for more P5 games? They did in the past and probably would again, but it might not be very much.
* Would they offer more for better (for TV) divisional alignment? Perhaps.

Just some throwing ideas out... spit-balling, if you will.

The ACC could offer better non-conference scheduling in both FB and BB. Let the conference schedule one non-conference FB game a year per school and two non-conference BB games. At the least, restrict FB scheduling to FBS teams.
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(01-18-2020 03:53 PM)Hallcity Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 02:39 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 01:45 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
(01-18-2020 01:41 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Doesn't the ESPN contract have "look-ins?" I seem to remember them being every 5 years.

The additional conference games will benefit the ACCN more. I don't see anything in those games that would prompt ESPN to pay more money.


In the same sense that you after purchasing a car you can have a "look in" with the dealer after 5 years. Name one time a conference got a substantial pay increase on a look in.

Look-ins are misunderstood. They are NOT opportunities to renegotiate the existing contract. They ARE opportunities to sell something new. For example, the ACCN launch was the result of a look-in.

What might the ACC be able to "sell" in a future look-in?
* How about sub-contracting excess inventory to CBS? After all, they are losing the SEC contract...
* Would ESPN offer more money for more P5 games? They did in the past and probably would again, but it might not be very much.
* Would they offer more for better (for TV) divisional alignment? Perhaps.

Just some throwing ideas out... spit-balling, if you will.

The ACC could offer better non-conference scheduling in both FB and BB. Let the conference schedule one non-conference FB game a year per school and two non-conference BB games. At the least, restrict FB scheduling to FBS teams.

That comes under "more P5 games" I think (unless you think eliminating FCS games is worth more than mandating 2 P5 OOC games?)
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Here’s the problem, it would appear the ACC gets about $6.3m for basketball (actually for all other sports besides football). Which comes out to about 25%

Some have suggested the SEC gets 15% of their revenue from basketball (or all other sports not football). 15% of $50m is $7.5m.

It does seem like the ACC undersold it’s product, though I believe the SECs baseball product is more popular than the ACC’s. I wonder if that’s enough to pass up the popularity of ACC’s men’s and women’s basketball?

Edit: Throw in Lacrosse as a semi-popular sport among the ACC.
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