(01-16-2020 10:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (01-16-2020 09:54 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote: (01-16-2020 09:23 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I wouldn't mind having some witnesses. I'd give Schumer Bolton in exchange for Crazy Joe, Hunter, the whistleblower, and Schiff.
I still don't see where there is a case if there was reasonable suspicion that Burisma, Hunter, and possibly Joe, may have been engaged in illegal or corrupt activity. And Hunter's absurdly outrageous contract with Burmisma at least raises that possibility.
What would that have to do with Drumpf's case?
He's not at liberty to withhold aid or invite election interference regardless.
Investigating criminal activity is not inviting election interference. And withholding aid (which didn't happen) or delaying it (which did) are not uncommon occurrences.
In part that is why I don't think they need witnesses.
Article One - Abuse of Power.
It is not illegal to investigate, or for the head of state to ask another country to assist in an investigation. The call was clearly discussing past-tense actions that occurred in 2016. At the time of the call, Biden was not (and still is not) his political opponent in the 2020 election.
The House Managers have not made known any direct first-hand evidence or knowledge that clearly and implicitly shows Trump using his office for political gain in the 2020 election. Aid was released without any of the alleged conditions having been met. Further, the Article of Impeachment reference Trump's "previous invitations of foreign interference" as to establish a pattern of behavior. Democrats being butt-hurt over a joke does not constitute an impeachable offense.
Article Two - Obstruction of Congress
The unprecedented method that Democrats chose to use gave reasonable concern for the president to ask the courts to weigh in. Democrats chose to push forward without allowing the co-equal executive branch to ask for clarification and legal precedent from the judicial branch.
Put plainly, this is bull**** and Chief Justice Roberts would almost certainly side with Republicans and Trump in that the House Democrats should have waited on the courts rather than rushing impeachment. Pelosi deciding to hold the articles of impeachment for a month negates any claim the house dems have to this being an urgent matter which could not wait for the courts to rule. Her actions also undermine the notion that Trump presents an ongoing threat and must be removed prior to the 2020 election.
Trump Not Guilty of charges presented. Case Closed, move on.