(01-20-2020 04:35 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

The only reason I brought it up is that itsmeagain made a crack about our attendance being low this year, as if you guys have room to talk.

If the data that we are compiling is "attendance" than it should be actual attendance. If the data we're compiling is "tickets sold" then by all means count every ticket sold. We could announce "attendance" as 25,000 every game and people would do the same thing they do when they look at your reported "attendance" - laugh their asses off and say that you're crazy.

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(01-20-2020 01:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 12:24 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

I imagine they probably don't count by tickets scanned, it's just another situation where one of their fans makes up some "fact" about the program and everyone takes it as pure truth because it's easier to believe that everything is perfect with your program and ignore the problems that you have than to face your problems and understand that they need fixing.

From assistant athletic director, David Cutler:

Am I reading this wrong? Did you just confirm what I said?

(01-20-2020 04:35 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

The only reason I brought it up is that itsmeagain made a crack about our attendance being low this year, as if you guys have room to talk.

If the data that we are compiling is "attendance" than it should be actual attendance. If the data we're compiling is "tickets sold" then by all means count every ticket sold. We could announce "attendance" as 25,000 every game and people would do the same thing they do when they look at your reported "attendance" - laugh their asses off and say that you're crazy.

Are you being ironic? “As if you have room to talk...” the only reason I’m rebutting is because, after Southern had a dismal attendance ranking as one of the worst in college football, then goes and tries to talk attendance smack. Here’s a tip; if you’re a Georgia Southern fan, don’t talk smack about attendance, because you literally have zero room to talk about anyone right now. And I promise you this, I will do as I have been doing and not talk back about it UNLESS YOU BRING IT UP. In that event, I will gladly keep reminding you that you have one of the worst attendances in FBS football, even though you’re apparently counting tickets in the same way that we are.

(01-20-2020 08:06 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 04:35 PM)KJ Eagle Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

The only reason I brought it up is that itsmeagain made a crack about our attendance being low this year, as if you guys have room to talk.

If the data that we are compiling is "attendance" than it should be actual attendance. If the data we're compiling is "tickets sold" then by all means count every ticket sold. We could announce "attendance" as 25,000 every game and people would do the same thing they do when they look at your reported "attendance" - laugh their asses off and say that you're crazy.

Are you being ironic? “As if you have room to talk...” the only reason I’m rebutting is because, after Southern had a dismal attendance ranking as one of the worst in college football, then goes and tries to talk attendance smack. Here’s a tip; if you’re a Georgia Southern fan, don’t talk smack about attendance, because you literally have zero room to talk about anyone right now. And I promise you this, I will do as I have been doing and not talk back about it UNLESS YOU BRING IT UP. In that event, I will gladly keep reminding you that you have one of the worst attendances in FBS football.

And we are saying we dont care what your numbers say, there are pictures to back up that we have more fans show up in the rain than you have in sunshine with a top 25 team. So please, dont even try to pretend yall have us beat.

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I seriously wonder what any GS fan posting in this thread hopes to achieve, unless they're just here to say congratulations.

This thread, of any to ever be posted on this board concerning Gast, is not one where we have any leverage of any kind in an argument/debate. It serves no purpose. Some people on here need to learn how to pick their battles, cause Gast has the high ground on this one.

Move along.

(01-20-2020 08:01 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 01:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 12:24 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

I imagine they probably don't count by tickets scanned, it's just another situation where one of their fans makes up some "fact" about the program and everyone takes it as pure truth because it's easier to believe that everything is perfect with your program and ignore the problems that you have than to face your problems and understand that they need fixing.

From assistant athletic director, David Cutler:

Am I reading this wrong? Did you just confirm what I said?

*snickers*

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(01-20-2020 08:01 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 01:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 12:24 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

I imagine they probably don't count by tickets scanned, it's just another situation where one of their fans makes up some "fact" about the program and everyone takes it as pure truth because it's easier to believe that everything is perfect with your program and ignore the problems that you have than to face your problems and understand that they need fixing.

From assistant athletic director, David Cutler:

Am I reading this wrong? Did you just confirm what I said?

All I did was share what our director of ticket sales said. Kinda discredits both sides of the argument when you think about it.

Its several days late, but congratulations to Ga. State fans. This is a HUGE get!

(01-21-2020 07:18 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 08:01 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 01:49 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(01-20-2020 12:24 PM)itsmeagain Wrote:  

(01-18-2020 02:44 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  KJ Eagle, GSU counts attendance like every other sports organizations everywhere: the number of tickets sold. Why do you and other GS fans feel the need to bring it up on literally every GSU thread? If Southern counts attendance by tickets scanned, then Southern is the weird oddball here.

I imagine they probably don't count by tickets scanned, it's just another situation where one of their fans makes up some "fact" about the program and everyone takes it as pure truth because it's easier to believe that everything is perfect with your program and ignore the problems that you have than to face your problems and understand that they need fixing.

From assistant athletic director, David Cutler:

Am I reading this wrong? Did you just confirm what I said?

All I did was share what our director of ticket sales said. Kinda discredits both sides of the argument when you think about it.

I mean... he’s saying that, despite numerous people suggesting that Southern only counts scanned tickets, they do in fact count attendance the same way as everyone else. Which means that your lowest attendance is just that... Low attendance.

Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

(01-21-2020 02:41 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

All.of.this.

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Great news! I'm looking forward to seeing if this can create some buzz in the city.

(01-21-2020 03:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 02:41 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

All.of.this.

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It’s like in ‘40 Year Old Virgin’...sometimes you gotta knock out a few hood rats before you go after the one you want.

I don't mind the Vandys, Dukes and Wakes as they have lots of Atlanta alumni. We have ECU, UNC, Vandy and GT now. So not a bad 6 years. If we can add a couple of the aforementioned teams or say NC State or even Kentucky...

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(01-22-2020 10:59 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 03:34 PM)panama Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 02:41 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

All.of.this.

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It’s like in ‘40 Year Old Virgin’...sometimes you gotta knock out a few hood rats before you go after the one you want.

Hopefully our new AD will do that. He was putting P5 on a pedestal.

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(01-22-2020 11:28 AM)Hail The Blue Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 10:59 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  It’s like in ‘40 Year Old Virgin’...sometimes you gotta knock out a few hood rats before you go after the one you want.

Hopefully our new AD will do that. He was putting P5 on a pedestal.

Sometimes you have to get out from under the yoke of the small minded administrators to move forward.

(01-22-2020 12:10 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 11:28 AM)Hail The Blue Wrote:  

(01-22-2020 10:59 AM)APPdiesel Wrote:  It’s like in ‘40 Year Old Virgin’...sometimes you gotta knock out a few hood rats before you go after the one you want.

Hopefully our new AD will do that. He was putting P5 on a pedestal.

Sometimes you have to get out from under the yoke of the small minded administrators to move forward.

I've said for several years that TK accomplished what he was brought in to do. He blew up what was here under Sam Baker and it absolutely needed to be done. He wasn't going to be the guy to take the next step though. I'm guessing he thought he'd have another job before he actually did. Hopefully the next guy will be a bit more connected in P5 circles so we can see some big time movement in our scheduling down the road.

Once again, congrats to Gast for getting the matchup.

(01-21-2020 02:41 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

I agree that it can make it easier to schedule others, once you get your first. Like that girl you're hesitant to ask on a date, because no one else has dated her, but once you see her go on a date with someone else, it confirms you aren't crazy, and you can proceed. However, I'm not sure if its going to get easier or harder as a whole to schedule home/home with P5's. On one hand, strength of schedule considerations will pressure P5's to schedule home/home with other P5's, and there will always be the pressure for P5's to have 7 or 8 home games. On the other hand, if more conferences move to banning FCS games, we will be in a better position to maneuver for home/home's as there will be far less teams to try and schedule with. We have only one left on the schedule (Iowa St in 24/25.) In this century, we've had a 2 for 1 with Ole Miss, Ok St with our home game in LR, Louisville, Missouri, and recently we had one with Miami, but they no-showed. I'm not too optimistic we will sign another one in the near future. We aren't located close to many P5's, and we aren't in a hot bed of recruiting, or in a large media market.

(01-22-2020 01:35 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(01-21-2020 02:41 PM)APPdiesel Wrote:  Apologies for taking it off the topic of GSU/Tech H&H, which is incredible (I've already said as such in a previous post somewhere around page 2)...

Whew. I just read all 10 pages of The Flight Line on the topic of P5 H&H's...some Eagles say it's important other say it isn't. It's critical to get that first one because it makes it MUCH easier to get the second one, and the third one. Sure, App got stomped by Miami (which, of course was a game that fell into our lap due to Miami's scheduling crisis) but that opened the door for Wake, which opened the door for UNC and USC. Don't think Tennessee would ever agree to come to Boone, but Vanderbilt, Virginia and/or Va Tech would. Get any of those and we get 4-5 P5s from in-state or bordering states to come to Boone.

You have to realize the economic impact of big names coming to your stadium. Casual alums all of a sudden decide this is a "can't miss" game. They bring their kids. They spend money in local establishments. And the visiting team's administration talks to other schools' administrations and say "we had a pleasant experience booking this game" and you get more.

Sign a Wake because that makes it easier to sign Miami. Sign Vanderbilt because that makes it easier to get Ole Miss. All of a sudden you have a brand that can bring other big brands to town.

I agree that it can make it easier to schedule others, once you get your first. Like that girl you're hesitant to ask on a date, because no one else has dated her, but once you see her go on a date with someone else, it confirms you aren't crazy, and you can proceed. However, I'm not sure if its going to get easier or harder as a whole to schedule home/home with P5's. On one hand, strength of schedule considerations will pressure P5's to schedule home/home with other P5's, and there will always be the pressure for P5's to have 7 or 8 home games. On the other hand, if more conferences move to banning FCS games, we will be in a better position to maneuver for home/home's as there will be far less teams to try and schedule with. We have only one left on the schedule (Iowa St in 24/25.) In this century, we've had a 2 for 1 with Ole Miss, Ok St with our home game in LR, Louisville, Missouri, and recently we had one with Miami, but they no-showed. I'm not too optimistic we will sign another one in the near future. We aren't located close to many P5's, and we aren't in a hot bed of recruiting, or in a large media market.

Every school has their own agenda. Some need to schedule for SOS. Some need to schedule for wins. Some are more willing to schedule H&H's with G5s. Some are among the old guard that says "we'd rather schedule an FCS or doormat P5 than play at a G5".

Better hope you have an AD who's good at relationship building. All hail Doug Gillin.