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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 12:35 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

Exactly. Not sure how hoops is saying CB/Scheyer is apples to oranges. It's literally the same thing. Two blue blood programs that recruit a plethora of All Americas and essentially roll the ball out there. That's absolutely apples to apples.

It's not. There are coaches that are considered "up and comers" in the coaching circles. Scheyer's name gets mentioned there. CB's did not. Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.
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Don't know what happened with his almost going to UMass but Pat Kelsey would be of great interest to me. Has Winthrop soaring in their league, seems to be having better results than Mike Jones.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:35 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

Exactly. Not sure how hoops is saying CB/Scheyer is apples to oranges. It's literally the same thing. Two blue blood programs that recruit a plethora of All Americas and essentially roll the ball out there. That's absolutely apples to apples.

It's not. There are coaches that are considered "up and comers" in the coaching circles. Scheyer's name gets mentioned there. CB's did not. Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

The issue is that you're not basing this on anything tangible. You're referencing some hypothetical, or unreferenced, source with nothing to back it up. If it's not a fair comparison, why not?


(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

Than UNC? That is laugable! Than Roy? Yes, but it's hardly impressive. You'd also have to define what constitutes a coaches tree. Does simply playing for a coach mean you are from his tree, or do you have to be on their staff? Personally, I'd define it as being on staff, not simply a former player.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 01:49 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:35 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

Exactly. Not sure how hoops is saying CB/Scheyer is apples to oranges. It's literally the same thing. Two blue blood programs that recruit a plethora of All Americas and essentially roll the ball out there. That's absolutely apples to apples.

It's not. There are coaches that are considered "up and comers" in the coaching circles. Scheyer's name gets mentioned there. CB's did not. Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

The issue is that you're not basing this on anything tangible. You're referencing some hypothetical, or unreferenced, source with nothing to back it up. If it's not a fair comparison, why not?


(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

Than UNC? That is laugable! Than Roy? Yes, but it's hardly impressive. You'd also have to define what constitutes a coaches tree. Does simply playing for a coach mean you are from his tree, or do you have to be on their staff? Personally, I'd define it as being on staff, not simply a former player.

Sorry i didn't clarify, than Roy. specifically say the last 20 years.

And for the Record the UNC as a whole vs Duke is very comparable. The list i was looking at them 6,7. Looking at K's tree less than impressive wouldn't be my unbiased description. I'm hardly a fan of Duke.
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(02-06-2020 01:49 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:35 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 12:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  If assistant is the route, I'd want us to steer clear of the "blue blood" programs. I want an assistant that's had to grind. That what makes guys like Schwartz, Siddle, Murray, Caputo, Watkins more intriguing than Scheyer... Other than the shade of blue, what's does Scheyer have on his resume that C.B. didn't 3 years ago.

Exactly. Not sure how hoops is saying CB/Scheyer is apples to oranges. It's literally the same thing. Two blue blood programs that recruit a plethora of All Americas and essentially roll the ball out there. That's absolutely apples to apples.

It's not. There are coaches that are considered "up and comers" in the coaching circles. Scheyer's name gets mentioned there. CB's did not. Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

The issue is that you're not basing this on anything tangible. You're referencing some hypothetical, or unreferenced, source with nothing to back it up. If it's not a fair comparison, why not?


(02-06-2020 01:35 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Not to mention that K's coaching tree has produced significantly better results than UNC.

Than UNC? That is laugable! Than Roy? Yes, but it's hardly impressive. You'd also have to define what constitutes a coaches tree. Does simply playing for a coach mean you are from his tree, or do you have to be on their staff? Personally, I'd define it as being on staff, not simply a former player.
Gary I agree with you, If Bass is going to choose from a list of assistant coaches anyone on your list would be a good fit for the program.
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(02-06-2020 01:46 PM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  Don't know what happened with his almost going to UMass but Pat Kelsey would be of great interest to me. Has Winthrop soaring in their league, seems to be having better results than Mike Jones.

Wasn't Kelsey mentioned as a possible candidate during the post Buzz Peterson search when we hired Keatts? He has a pretty good background and now has some head coaching experience.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 03:19 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:46 PM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  Don't know what happened with his almost going to UMass but Pat Kelsey would be of great interest to me. Has Winthrop soaring in their league, seems to be having better results than Mike Jones.

Wasn't Kelsey mentioned as a possible candidate during the post Buzz Peterson search when we hired Keatts? He has a pretty good background and now has some head coaching experience.

Kelsey currently makes 227k per year. He walked away from a Umass job that would have paid him close to 800k with incentives!
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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 03:24 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 03:19 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:46 PM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  Don't know what happened with his almost going to UMass but Pat Kelsey would be of great interest to me. Has Winthrop soaring in their league, seems to be having better results than Mike Jones.

Wasn't Kelsey mentioned as a possible candidate during the post Buzz Peterson search when we hired Keatts? He has a pretty good background and now has some head coaching experience.

Kelsey currently makes 227k per year. He walked away from a Umass job that would have paid him close to 800k with incentives!

He literally informed the UMASS AD 25 minutes before his Press Conference that he was backing out... Winthrop has solid facilities and is prime to win every year in the Big South, I don't see him leaving. Mike Jones on the other hand competes every year with subpar facilities. He'd be an excellent hire for us.
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RE: Coaching speculation
(02-06-2020 03:35 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 03:24 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 03:19 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 01:46 PM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  Don't know what happened with his almost going to UMass but Pat Kelsey would be of great interest to me. Has Winthrop soaring in their league, seems to be having better results than Mike Jones.

Wasn't Kelsey mentioned as a possible candidate during the post Buzz Peterson search when we hired Keatts? He has a pretty good background and now has some head coaching experience.

Kelsey currently makes 227k per year. He walked away from a Umass job that would have paid him close to 800k with incentives!

He literally informed the UMASS AD 25 minutes before his Press Conference that he was backing out... Winthrop has solid facilities and is prime to win every year in the Big South, I don't see him leaving. Mike Jones on the other hand competes every year with subpar facilities. He'd be an excellent hire for us.

NC A&T joining the Big South Conference.
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https://www.starnewsonline.com/sports/20...Ss6f7D1f40

Ty Gadsden stepped to the free throw line with eight seconds remaining and a chance to ice the game. Normally a quiet time for any student section, the Seahawk faithful chanted two words over-and-over.

Hire Burke.

It was a nod to interim-head coach Rob Burke, who stamped another credential to his resume Saturday as UNCW beat William & Mary 70-64 in front of a packed Trask Coliseum, gifting a happy homecoming to all in attendance.

“We love it,” UNCW junior Mike Okauru said. “I want to start a hashtag. Hire Burke. We want Burke, everybody wants Burke, and I think he’s doing a hell of a job.”
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Here is a clip from the much requested Burke Cam


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https://www.indeed.com/q-Head-Men-Basket...9365b5de21

Not sure if this posting is a requirement or what.
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It's required just like any other state job.
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It's too bad it's not on a public website where the public can at least view who has submitted a resume.
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Any updates? I guess no news is good news.
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Wiggle, I wouldn't expect anything until conference tournaments are over.

Question for the group: where does Danny Manning land once he's fired from Wake? I'm sure that is somewhat based on his preference to find another head gig, or return to a P5 as an assistant. But, what type of job, or conference, would be realistic for him if he wants to be a HC?
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(02-26-2020 12:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Wiggle, I wouldn't expect anything until conference tournaments are over.

Question for the group: where does Danny Manning land once he's fired from Wake? I'm sure that is somewhat based on his preference to find another head gig, or return to a P5 as an assistant. But, what type of job, or conference, would be realistic for him if he wants to be a HC?

Just beat Duke. Is that enough to keep him on?
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(02-26-2020 01:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 12:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Wiggle, I wouldn't expect anything until conference tournaments are over.

Question for the group: where does Danny Manning land once he's fired from Wake? I'm sure that is somewhat based on his preference to find another head gig, or return to a P5 as an assistant. But, what type of job, or conference, would be realistic for him if he wants to be a HC?

Just beat Duke. Is that enough to keep him on?

I don’t think so, but both times I’ve seen them play this is year they have looked good.
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(02-26-2020 03:27 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
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(02-26-2020 12:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Wiggle, I wouldn't expect anything until conference tournaments are over.

Question for the group: where does Danny Manning land once he's fired from Wake? I'm sure that is somewhat based on his preference to find another head gig, or return to a P5 as an assistant. But, what type of job, or conference, would be realistic for him if he wants to be a HC?

Just beat Duke. Is that enough to keep him on?

I don’t think so, but both times I’ve seen them play this is year they have looked good.

They beat Duke and Carolina-I think he gets another year. They owe him a ton of money.
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(02-26-2020 04:50 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 03:27 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 01:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(02-26-2020 12:00 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  Wiggle, I wouldn't expect anything until conference tournaments are over.

Question for the group: where does Danny Manning land once he's fired from Wake? I'm sure that is somewhat based on his preference to find another head gig, or return to a P5 as an assistant. But, what type of job, or conference, would be realistic for him if he wants to be a HC?

Just beat Duke. Is that enough to keep him on?

I don’t think so, but both times I’ve seen them play this is year they have looked good.

They beat Duke and Carolina-I think he gets another year. They owe him a ton of money.

Miller makes so much sense at WFU, I don't see them hanging on to Danny just because of those in-state victories. Looking at their schedule they're 3-7 in their last 10, 12-15 overall and 5-12 in conference play (just one game ahead of Carolina for last place). They need to win out the regular season (Notre Dame, @UNC, @NCST) and win two conference tournament games to qualify for the NIT...I think that would give Wellman something to think about, but even in that unlikely scenario, it seems like he's fallen short of a job-saving season.
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