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2020 Rice football schedule
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The conference released the conference schedule, so we know our 2020 schedule (game times TBA). I guess it's a decent-enough set-up. It is odd we're in Houston all of September (pray for no day games at Rice Stadium), and then in Texas/Louisiana for November. October is our travel month for the most part.

Sept. 5 - at Houston
Sept. 12 - Army
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG)
Sept. 26 - Lamar
Oct. 3 - at Marshall
Oct. 10 - UAB
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee
Oct. 31 - at USM
Nov. 7 - UTSA
Nov. 14 - at La Tech
Nov. 21 - at North Texas
Nov. 28 - UTEP
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Need to go 2-2 in the non-conference IMO.

Really 1–1 since two of those outcomes (Lamar and LSU are pretty “baked in.”)
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Anything less than .500 for the season with this schedule will be totally unacceptable.
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(01-09-2020 08:42 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Need to go 2-2 in the non-conference IMO.

Really 1–1 since two of those outcomes (Lamar and LSU are pretty “baked in.”)

One is baked in. The other is Lamar.
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Six most likely wins:

Lamar (home)
UTEP (home)
UTSA (home)
MTSU (home)
Army (home)
North Texas (road)

Every conference game is winnable (as usual)
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3rd season as head coach. Time for Bloomgren to start putting up or packing up. It isn't just his fault that Rice sucks now and has mostly sucked at football the last couple decades. But it is currently his responsibility to make the team good.
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(01-09-2020 11:00 AM)mrbig Wrote:  3rd season as head coach. Time for Bloomgren to start putting up or packing up. It isn't just his fault that Rice sucks now and has mostly sucked at football the last couple decades. But it is currently his responsibility to make the team good.

It is amazing that it has been 30 years since Fred Goldsmith seemingly turned the corner in 1990. Lot of optimism in that decade, but other than a couple of blips, just a horrific slide downwards...….
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I think the best possibility is 1-3 non-conference and 6-2 conference, 7-5 overall. We need to get to where we go 8-0 in CUSA every year. We're not there yet, but 2020 is the year to make strides in that direction.

There has been this continuing debate about whether it is more important to dominate CUSA or get a signature win. We're not doing either one this year, but bottom line is they are both the same. Until we are good enough to dominate CUSA, we are not good enough to get a signature win. And if we somehow did the unthinkable and beat LSU next year, it wouldn't mean anything if we go 4-4 in conference.

We need to do both--dominate CUSA and get signature wins--to have any shot at becoming relevant again. The good news is that they are both the same thing. You can't have one without the other.
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(01-09-2020 12:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  And if we somehow did the unthinkable and beat LSU next year, it wouldn't mean anything if we go 4-4 in conference.

I would have fun walking into work the following Monday. Rice socks, Rice tie, CWS ring would all be prominent.
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(01-09-2020 09:46 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(01-09-2020 08:42 AM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  Need to go 2-2 in the non-conference IMO.

Really 1–1 since two of those outcomes (Lamar and LSU are pretty “baked in.”)

One is baked in. The other is Lamar.


Wouldn’t you at least grant that Lamar might be, um, HALF-baked?
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RE: 2020 Rice football schedule
QB and Offense Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Win
Sept. 12 - Army - Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Win
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Win
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Win
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
8-4 Bowl Game

QB and Offense Not Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Loss
Sept. 12 - Army - Narrow Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Win
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Loss
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Loss
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
5-7, No Bowl
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(01-09-2020 02:06 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  QB and Offense Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Win
Sept. 12 - Army - Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Win
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Win
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Win
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
8-4 Bowl Game

QB and Offense Not Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Loss
Sept. 12 - Army - Narrow Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Loss
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Loss
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Loss
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
4-8, No Bowl

Did you mean to show Lamar as a loss? If so, you're saying that Lamar is better than Army and Middle Tennessee.
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(01-09-2020 02:40 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(01-09-2020 02:06 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  QB and Offense Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Win
Sept. 12 - Army - Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Win
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Win
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Win
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
8-4 Bowl Game

QB and Offense Not Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Loss
Sept. 12 - Army - Narrow Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Loss
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Loss
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Loss
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
4-8, No Bowl

Did you mean to show Lamar as a loss? If so, you're saying that Lamar is better than Army and Middle Tennessee.

Hard to know what to expect from Lamar. They were in the FCS playoffs in 2018, but cratered last season. New coach for next season. While the hope is Rice is well clear of being challenged by an FCS program by this point - let's just say I'm nervous. That last FCS opponent was supposed to be a cakewalk, too, at this point of the preseason.
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(01-09-2020 02:40 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(01-09-2020 02:06 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  QB and Offense Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Win
Sept. 12 - Army - Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Win
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Win
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Win
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
8-4 Bowl Game

QB and Offense Not Sorted

Sept. 5 - at Houston - Loss
Sept. 12 - Army - Narrow Win
Sept. 19 - LSU (at NRG) - Loss
Sept. 26 - Lamar - Loss
Oct. 3 - at Marshall - Loss
Oct. 10 - UAB - Loss
Oct. 24 - Middle Tennessee - Win
Oct. 31 - at USM - Loss
Nov. 7 - UTSA - Win
Nov. 14 - at La Tech - Loss
Nov. 21 - at North Texas - Loss
Nov. 28 - UTEP - Win
4-8, No Bowl

Did you mean to show Lamar as a loss? If so, you're saying that Lamar is better than Army and Middle Tennessee.

Oops. Yes. Will edit.
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(01-09-2020 12:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think the best possibility is 1-3 non-conference and 6-2 conference, 7-5 overall. We need to get to where we go 8-0 in CUSA every year. We're not there yet, but 2020 is the year to make strides in that direction.

There has been this continuing debate about whether it is more important to dominate CUSA or get a signature win. We're not doing either one this year, but bottom line is they are both the same. Until we are good enough to dominate CUSA, we are not good enough to get a signature win. And if we somehow did the unthinkable and beat LSU next year, it wouldn't mean anything if we go 4-4 in conference.

We need to do both--dominate CUSA and get signature wins--to have any shot at becoming relevant again. The good news is that they are both the same thing. You can't have one without the other.

Dominating a conference is no guarantee of a signature win. FAU was the class of CUSA but lost 93-35 against its two opportunities for signature wins (Ohio State, UCF). App State beat North Carolina and South Carolina but the former had lost 18 games in the previous 2 seasons and the latter ended up 4-8; the bowls yawned and sent App State to play UAB in a who-cares game.

A signature win is no guarantee of success in conference or even avoiding mediocrity. FIU beat Miami. Georgia State beat Tennessee. Illinois beat Wisconsin.

I agree with you that one win does not a program make but it's also been a problem that Bailiff and now Bloomgren seem to have adopted a specific practice of de-emphasizing nonconference games and not even trying for wins against the only schools on the schedule most Rice people can muster up any interest for. Bailiff called them preseason games and consequently was never competitive in a single one against any opponent of note. Bloomgren inherited a wreck of a program, to be sure, and he may turn out to be better in this regard because he did manage good efforts against UH and Army, but he flat-out botched the Baylor game, showing no urgency or creativeness when a great opportunity for a major win presented itself (due to a great defensive effort and a clearly disinterested Baylor), instead just running his pet offensive plays for practice as if the game was already out of hand like he obviously expected it to be.

When you continually lay eggs versus recognizable opponents, it's demoralizing to the people you need to support your program the other 8 games of the year. There certainly is no evidence that a "save the equipment" approach to nonconference games correlates with greater success in-conference, much less sustained dominance.

I am glad that Karlgaard is putting together schedules where if we did manage to go 13-0 or 12-1, we'd probably be the G5 rep in a NY6 bowl, but if the coach cares more about trying to be 8-0 than 13-0, we'll never be either. I know that's a paradox but this is Rice and Rice people are never, ever going to care about CUSA. Apathy for CUSA means we are never going to dominate CUSA, and it also means we'll likely never have a team good enough to get a true signature win.
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(01-09-2020 04:07 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  Dominating a conference is no guarantee of a signature win. FAU was the class of CUSA but lost 93-35 against its two opportunities for signature wins (Ohio State, UCF). App State beat North Carolina and South Carolina but the former had lost 18 games in the previous 2 seasons and the latter ended up 4-8; the bowls yawned and sent App State to play UAB in a who-cares game.
A signature win is no guarantee of success in conference or even avoiding mediocrity. FIU beat Miami. Georgia State beat Tennessee. Illinois beat Wisconsin.
I agree with you that one win does not a program make but it's also been a problem that Bailiff and now Bloomgren seem to have adopted a specific practice of de-emphasizing nonconference games and not even trying for wins against the only schools on the schedule most Rice people can muster up any interest for. Bailiff called them preseason games and consequently was never competitive in a single one against any opponent of note. Bloomgren inherited a wreck of a program, to be sure, and he may turn out to be better in this regard because he did manage good efforts against UH and Army, but he flat-out botched the Baylor game, showing no urgency or creativeness when a great opportunity for a major win presented itself (due to a great defensive effort and a clearly disinterested Baylor), instead just running his pet offensive plays for practice as if the game was already out of hand like he obviously expected it to be.
When you continually lay eggs versus recognizable opponents, it's demoralizing to the people you need to support your program the other 8 games of the year. There certainly is no evidence that a "save the equipment" approach to nonconference games correlates with greater success in-conference, much less sustained dominance.
I am glad that Karlgaard is putting together schedules where if we did manage to go 13-0 or 12-1, we'd probably be the G5 rep in a NY6 bowl, but if the coach cares more about trying to be 8-0 than 13-0, we'll never be either. I know that's a paradox but this is Rice and Rice people are never, ever going to care about CUSA. Apathy for CUSA means we are never going to dominate CUSA, and it also means we'll likely never have a team good enough to get a true signature win.

I agree that neither is a guarantee of the other. But they are both in the same direction. We have to get a lot better to have a shot at either. Getting good enough to do one is the same thing as getting good enough to do the other. And once we have that shot, we have to do both.

Our problem right now is not laying eggs in games against big name opponents. It is laying eggs against everyone.

A one-off against a big program having a bad day comes occasionally, but doesn't really mean anything unless you back it up with other wins.
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It’s a much more favorable schedule than 2019. I really like all the Houston games to start the season.
Way too early... I’m thinking 6-6. Possible bowl.
Now in August, I’m sure the pre-season giddiness will take hold and I’ll feel like more 7-5 or 8-4.
Hope springs eternal. Especially in the pre-season.
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I think 6-6 is most likely but 7-5 would be great progress. However, 5-7 would put Bloom on the hot seat. I hope we beat UH but playing at Houston makes it very tough.
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(01-09-2020 04:07 PM)illiniowl Wrote:  I am glad that Karlgaard is putting together schedules where if we did manage to go 13-0 or 12-1, we'd probably be the G5 rep in a NY6 bowl, but if the coach cares more about trying to be 8-0 than 13-0, we'll never be either. I know that's a paradox but this is Rice and Rice people are never, ever going to care about CUSA. Apathy for CUSA means we are never going to dominate CUSA, and it also means we'll likely never have a team good enough to get a true signature win.

I understand, but until we are going 8-0 in CUSA, the rest is just a pipe dream. We're not going to move up from CUSA by not dominating CUSA across the board. We're not going to be good enough to get a signature win over a P5 until we are good enough to go 8-0 in CUSA. And if we do knock off a big boy, and then turn around and go 4-4 in CUSA, it's not going to mean anything.

I don't understand the question about whether it is more important to get a signature win or to dominate CUSA. Those aren't alternatives. Good enough to do one is good enough to do the other. And doing one without doing the other is pretty worthless. So do both--that's where we need to go.
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