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Seems to me that in the past we have lost players just before big games to things like Performance enhancing drugs or marijuana or other illicit substances.

I haven't heard of any players being suspended this go around.

Are our players now more educated on the consequences? Is it a reflection of HCCC's no nonsense approach? Is a reflection of the upperclassmen/captains being great leaders and mentoring of the younger kids?

I am assuming the NCAA did random testing after the playoff games as in the past?

I don't know the answer, but it sure has been nice not having that as a distraction.

Play the Natty at full strength and bring it home.
01-06-2020 09:22 PM
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That goes for both teams. I think there were a couple suspended Bison as well last time. No news is good news!
01-06-2020 11:34 PM
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JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
01-07-2020 07:29 AM
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I hope you haven't jinxed us- this type of news usually comes out the day before the game or day of the game. Crossing my fingers but I agree that the culture of JMU Football seems very strong from the outside.
01-07-2020 07:53 AM
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WHYYYYYYYYYYYY would you post this a few days before the game!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not superstitious, just a little stitious.
01-07-2020 08:11 AM
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(01-07-2020 08:11 AM)JMU_Newbill Wrote:  WHYYYYYYYYYYYY would you post this a few days before the game!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not superstitious, just a little stitious.

Yep, this. Such bad juju.
01-07-2020 09:48 AM
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(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.
01-07-2020 04:50 PM
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(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.

Yeah that’s a tough one. Would you rather your players be selfish/dumb or cheaters? Luckily it seems like we don’t have to deal with either so far under the new regime. *knock on wood*
01-07-2020 05:26 PM
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(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.

Agree, though both are not acceptable behavior, if I were a coach, I'd raise my voice above normal to the guy caught smoking weed but lower it to below normal to the guy who took PEDs.
01-07-2020 06:08 PM
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Interesting.
01-07-2020 07:11 PM
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Interesting indeed...was thinking today I hope nothing comes out late week along these lines. I think I recall that happening before the semifinal game at NDSU though? Maybe there was another occasion....regardless...really hope all is quiet on this front for the Dukes
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(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.

So youre ok with kids knowingly cheating as opposed to being like every other college kid? Both are dumb but one is a stupid mistake
01-07-2020 08:36 PM
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(01-07-2020 08:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.
So youre ok with kids knowingly cheating as opposed to being like every other college kid? Both are dumb but one is a stupid mistake
Both gets you suspended, so in essence both are “cheating”. One is for the betterment of self and the other is for team. And not “every other college kid” is doing it, regardless you gotta be better than that anyway when you have so much to lose.
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(01-07-2020 08:45 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 08:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.
So youre ok with kids knowingly cheating as opposed to being like every other college kid? Both are dumb but one is a stupid mistake
Both gets you suspended, so in essence both are “cheating”. One is for the betterment of self and the other is for team. And not “every other college kid” is doing it, regardless you gotta be better than that anyway when you have so much to lose.

This is the dumbest **** I've ever read
01-07-2020 09:49 PM
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(01-07-2020 09:49 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 08:45 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 08:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.
So youre ok with kids knowingly cheating as opposed to being like every other college kid? Both are dumb but one is a stupid mistake
Both gets you suspended, so in essence both are “cheating”. One is for the betterment of self and the other is for team. And not “every other college kid” is doing it, regardless you gotta be better than that anyway when you have so much to lose.

This is the dumbest **** I've ever read

Dumber than someone ranking RU's stadium as the best in FCS? IMHO: not even close
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You’re right, saying somebody is dumb and selfish for getting suspended for a national championship game was pretty damn dumb. And thinking one suspension was more honorable than the other was brilliant.
01-07-2020 10:43 PM
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Thread of the year. Thank God we still have 358 or so days to improve on this.
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(01-07-2020 10:43 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  You’re right, saying somebody is dumb and selfish for getting suspended for a national championship game was pretty damn dumb. And thinking one suspension was more honorable than the other was brilliant.

Nowhere did i say it was honorable but keep trying. You probably think Bonds is the legitimate homerun king too
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Probably some of the young guys saw what happened to the older guys some years ago, and didn't want to jeopardize the team. Maybe a lesson learned?

Also obv our players are angels so they are on their best behavior all the time.
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(01-07-2020 09:49 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 08:45 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 08:36 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 04:50 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  
(01-07-2020 07:29 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  JMU's players were suspend for weed, NDSU had players suspend for PEDs. I see a big difference in that
FWIW, Knowing you’re probably going to get tested I see weed as more dumb and selfish, while PEDs is at least trying to get a physical competitive edge.
So youre ok with kids knowingly cheating as opposed to being like every other college kid? Both are dumb but one is a stupid mistake
Both gets you suspended, so in essence both are “cheating”. One is for the betterment of self and the other is for team. And not “every other college kid” is doing it, regardless you gotta be better than that anyway when you have so much to lose.

This is the dumbest **** I've ever read

Possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on the boards
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