How many CAA victories does Coach Rowe need to be retained? I say it's 9.

What's his buyout? The thing that made it easy to send Brady packing was that his final contract had a $20K buyout. Remember, we're dealing with accountants, if his contract is a full season salary, our group has the potential to ride LR to the end.

There are 18 such games. We're horrible, and have been for years. I say we need to go AT LEAST 12-6.

The early trend of 9 wins to extend is disturbing. 4 years here and that's the best he can do?

CAA tourney will be deciding factor. #bookit

(01-02-2020 02:02 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  What's his buyout? The thing that made it easy to send Brady packing was that his final contract had a $20K buyout. Remember, we're dealing with accountants, if his contract is a full season salary, our group has the potential to ride LR to the end.

Without looking I think the last year is not fully guaranteed.

*edit. I did a quick look but I can't find any supporting contract documentation.

I went with under 6 meaning I do not think it matters how many he wins and he will be back. Just an outsiders perspective based on how JMU has handled stuff like this in the past. The amount guaranteed in his last year absolutely matters, though. If he has more than 1 year remaining, he is coming back and you will have a Brady situation all over again

If we don't finish in the top 3 and win at least 11 games in conference he should be gone. Honestly if you watch the team play he should be gone no matter what as he is just not a good coach. Great guy, great player, but he is not getting the job done.

Rowe will be back unless jmu dumps the caa tourney round one game by 45 as the last seed.

Does it matter if all jmu would pay a replacement is mid caa salary. JMU mbb coach is not a good gig now and names we are throwing out are not interested.

(01-02-2020 02:44 PM)dan10 Wrote:  I went with under 6 meaning I do not think it matters how many he wins and he will be back. Just an outsiders perspective based on how JMU has handled stuff like this in the past. The amount guaranteed in his last year absolutely matters, though. If he has more than 1 year remaining, he is coming back and you will have a Brady situation all over again

When has JMU been afraid to eat the last year in a revenue sport (besides that weird presidential transition with Matt Brady)? You are making a prediction based off of a very small data set.

(01-02-2020 03:04 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 02:44 PM)dan10 Wrote:  I went with under 6 meaning I do not think it matters how many he wins and he will be back. Just an outsiders perspective based on how JMU has handled stuff like this in the past. The amount guaranteed in his last year absolutely matters, though. If he has more than 1 year remaining, he is coming back and you will have a Brady situation all over again

When has JMU been afraid to eat the last year in a revenue sport (besides that weird presidential transition with Matt Brady)? You are making a prediction based off of a very small data set.

I am ok with using a recency bias. I would also say I am not sure JMU truly considers mens basketball as a revenue sport. They certainly havent appeared to try since Lefty left.

I think it’s less that they don’t view it as a revenue sport and more that they’ve buried their heads in the sand that it’s been a failure since Lefty (even including our 2013 NCAA bid). All that said, I’d love to wager you that JMU will terminate in March 2020 for anything less than a CAAT finals appearance.

6 wins and a CAAT finals appearance and he's back? No, no, no.

We're now 7-6, if you include our win against D3 Shenandoah. If we don't hit 20 wins this year we need to move on.

Not my choice, just my opinion of what the “retain” line is for those making the decision. If he makes it to our conference tourney final, I think we might see a non-extension “extension” with a tiny buyout.

(01-02-2020 03:16 PM)dan10 Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 03:04 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 02:44 PM)dan10 Wrote:  I went with under 6 meaning I do not think it matters how many he wins and he will be back. Just an outsiders perspective based on how JMU has handled stuff like this in the past. The amount guaranteed in his last year absolutely matters, though. If he has more than 1 year remaining, he is coming back and you will have a Brady situation all over again

When has JMU been afraid to eat the last year in a revenue sport (besides that weird presidential transition with Matt Brady)? You are making a prediction based off of a very small data set.

I am ok with using a recency bias. I would also say I am not sure JMU truly considers mens basketball as a revenue sport. They certainly havent appeared to try since Lefty left.

Not arguing the poor hiring decisions post Lefty.

That stipulated, JMU opens a $127 million dollar, 8500 seat basketball arena/complex in the Fall of this year (2020). JMU is not Drexel playing in an antiquated upstairs gym. Given the investment in the new arena, if JMU doesn’t see MBB as a revenue sport our administration is blind, dumb and foolish, and I don’t think they are any of those things.

He should need 10 but I honestly believe he'll be back next year with as little as 5 or 6 wins.

(01-02-2020 04:13 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  Not my choice, just my opinion of what the “retain” line is for those making the decision. If he makes it to our conference tourney final, I think we might see a non-extension “extension” with a tiny buyout.

My #1 fear is that we go .500 or less and go deep in the tourney. They would probably retain for year 5. Hopefully we don't lame duck it again, but I don't know that an extension is the solution either.

GOAT HCLR gonna have to live up to his moniker - tonight would be a good night to begin.

Let's not forget how all in King was on Rowe. It's going to take a really bad showing for MBB for him to get fired. I still think that the admin is willing to give him more time. I couldn't disagree more.
If they were dumb enough to go back to the hiring process of Sherman Dillard, then they are dumb enough to give Rowe another year and watch this era crash and burn right into the new arena.
It would take an incredible turnaround for me to excited enough to buy a ticket next year.
I have been giving them the credit of the doubt, but I am more convinced than ever that Rowe is getting another year regardless of how bad this team plays. 'This team is young' excuse will be ringing from the rafters of the old Convo as Rowe is given another year to try to make things better. Things will not get any better and the arena will be empty year one and this admin will have egg on their face that won't wash off for a long, long time.
That is why I have chose <6 as my vote.
Personally I would say 10 or 11. Unfortunately I am just an irrational fan that JMU truly could care less about.

I say 11, but think admin will be cool with 10 (as long as he makes CAAT final).

I dont think there is a number. He should be gone. However, its probably all about the CAAT