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But Swofford is a Ninja

(01-01-2020 02:58 PM)nole Wrote:  But Swofford is a Ninja

But Delany is a Samurai...

(01-01-2020 02:58 PM)nole Wrote:  But Swofford is a Ninja

Some of you guys love to make Swofford your scapegoat. But Swoffy cant make any of these decisions without the approval of presidents. Delaney cant do anything without the input and approval of the BIG presidents, which means he gets way too much credit. But dont let the facts get in the way off a good agenda.

(01-01-2020 04:47 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-01-2020 02:58 PM)nole Wrote:  But Swofford is a Ninja

Some of you guys love to make Swofford your scapegoat. But Swoffy cant make any of these decisions without the approval of presidents. Delaney cant do anything without the input and approval of the BIG presidents, which means he gets way too much credit. But dont let the facts get in the way off a good agenda.

That's true... but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story!

Citrus and Outback in the same time slot, is that good or bad?

(01-01-2020 08:21 PM)esayem Wrote:  Citrus and Outback in the same time slot, is that good or bad?

Better than your second best bowl being sometime between Christmas and New Years.

(01-01-2020 04:47 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-01-2020 02:58 PM)nole Wrote:  But Swofford is a Ninja

Some of you guys love to make Swofford your scapegoat. But Swoffy cant make any of these decisions without the approval of presidents. Delaney cant do anything without the input and approval of the BIG presidents, which means he gets way too much credit. But dont let the facts get in the way off a good agenda.

The ACC offices handle the bowl negotiations. The presidents only approve what is presented to them. If it were all on the presidents as you are trying to insinuate then why exactly are we paying Swofford $3.5 million a year?

I don't think that a conference that gets a four loss team into the Orange Bowl really has much to complain about.

(01-02-2020 08:00 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  I don't think that a conference that gets a four loss team into the Orange Bowl really has much to complain about.

1. It's a travesty that Cincinnati fell all the way to the Birmingham Bowl
2. That said, the ACC bowls are a step behind the other P5 conferences (well, maybe not the Pac-12 with the exception of the Rose Bowl).

(01-01-2020 09:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2020 08:21 PM)esayem Wrote:  Citrus and Outback in the same time slot, is that good or bad?

Better than your second best bowl being sometime between Christmas and New Years.

I agree, Orange Bowl and Cotton Bowl should be on NYD when not in playoffs.

(01-02-2020 08:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 08:00 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  I don't think that a conference that gets a four loss team into the Orange Bowl really has much to complain about.

1. It's a travesty that Cincinnati fell all the way to the Birmingham Bowl

No it’s not, mid-major team, mid-major bowl. Plus, they can soak in the Old Gray Lady.

(01-01-2020 09:56 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(01-01-2020 04:47 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-01-2020 02:58 PM)nole Wrote:  But Swofford is a Ninja

Some of you guys love to make Swofford your scapegoat. But Swoffy cant make any of these decisions without the approval of presidents. Delaney cant do anything without the input and approval of the BIG presidents, which means he gets way too much credit. But dont let the facts get in the way off a good agenda.

The ACC offices handle the bowl negotiations. The presidents only approve what is presented to them. If it were all on the presidents as you are trying to insinuate then why exactly are we paying Swofford $3.5 million a year?

You just confirmed what I said. What exactly are you having trouble understanding?
As to your question why Swofford is being paid $3.5 million, I dont know why any of these commissioners are paid so well for what they do.

(01-02-2020 09:32 AM)esayem Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 08:58 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 08:00 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  I don't think that a conference that gets a four loss team into the Orange Bowl really has much to complain about.

1. It's a travesty that Cincinnati fell all the way to the Birmingham Bowl

No it’s not, mid-major team, mid-major bowl. Plus, they can soak in the Old Gray Lady.

Mid major is a term used for basketball, Einstein.

What a mid-major thing to say.

(01-03-2020 08:58 AM)esayem Wrote:  What a mid-major thing to say.

I realize this is an ACC Board and some won't like my comment to you, but it is apparent from many of your posts UC lives rent free in your head.

By chance did you grow up an OSU, XU or Miami of Ohio fan, leave Ohio to go to college and become a Tar Hell fan?

(01-03-2020 09:03 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-03-2020 08:58 AM)esayem Wrote:  What a mid-major thing to say.

I realize this is an ACC Board and some won't like my comment to you, but it is apparent from many of your posts UC lives rent free in your head.

By chance did you grow up an OSU, XU or Miami of Ohio fan, leave Ohio to go to college and become a Tar Hell fan?

No, I don’t have an issue with Cincinnati. I actually really like the basketball hire and I’m pulling for him to be successful there.

Our secondary bowls stink because we have such small fan/alumni bases in some of the schools. How many people are BC, Syracuse, Wake Forest, or Duke going to send to a suck bowl after a mediocre season?

This is compounded by Miami's, GT's, and VT's relative decline. I use the phrase "relative decline" because Miami, GT, VT, FSU, NC State, and UNC don't have football programs that exist in a vacuum. A byproduct of the playoff system is that talent aggregation in just 6-8 schools have intensified. Just pulling away 2 future starters a year from GT, VT, NC State, and UNC has a drastic cumulative effect.

Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, and Oklahoma can land any kid they recruit.

Think of it like the formation of planets in a solar system. Once a single body becomes overly large compared to the rest, they aggregate even more material to their planet. The same effect happens with cities and economic development.

The result is that "Grade B" programs are starved of some of the material they used to get. This effect then goes down the line.

More to the point, we have not been able to replace the Peach Bowl as an ACC Bowl. That is a huge blow and any improvement under the current playoff system requires the SEC to acquiesce to some sort of change in the Citrus, Hall of Fame, and Sugar Bowl. I would submit they have no incentive to change.

Especially considering the SEC lost the Cotton Bowl. I’d like to see the ACC get the Gator Bowl back. How many Big 10-SEC bowl games in Florida does the world really need?

(01-03-2020 03:53 PM)esayem Wrote:  Especially considering the SEC lost the Cotton Bowl. I’d like to see the ACC get the Gator Bowl back. How many Big 10-SEC bowl games in Florida does the world really need?

This year, the SEC had nine teams in bowl games. Three were against the B1G, three against the Big XII and three against the ACC. Are you suggesting that they should play one or more of those games against the PAC? And if they did, how likely is it that the bowls involved would want to invite a team from the PAC instead of the B1G? Three doesn't seem excessive when you consider how many fans B1G teams have traditionally brought to Florida.