That might make the game more of an event than it
now.

Talk about it hitting the fan...

It would be different. Jerry’s world is fine , but ending that and moving the games back to campus seems to be the welcomed outcome most fans want right now. Moving the match to a different weekend of the Texas state fair would look like an unimaginative copycat of the OU-UT tradition; at least Jerry’s world is an acceptable modern adaptation.

Arkansas playing competitive would solve most problems.

Yeah no real desire to do a copycat

This series in Jerry World was started before we joined the SEC and was designed to give both teams better recruiting access to DFW and Jerry Jones is paying us both very well to try and help his alma mater out

At this point though, most A&M fans want to go back to campus home and home but our AD has said he likes it for the big payday

Not sure how the average piggy feels about it but Jerry wants it to stay at ATT as long as possible. And it still has another 4 games to go left in the contract

Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

(12-30-2019 09:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

I love our game in Jax vs the Gators!! Nothing like it!!! Army-Navy is awesome in Philly!! And what's Oklahoma-Texas without Big Tex and the Texas State Fair??? Sheesh, Arkansas-TAMU might turn into something special if it was played in the Cowboys Stadium, but during the state fair!!

(12-31-2019 08:00 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 09:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

I love our game in Jax vs the Gators!! Nothing like it!!! Army-Navy is awesome in Philly!! And what's Oklahoma-Texas without Big Tex and the Texas State Fair??? Sheesh, Arkansas-TAMU might turn into something special if it was played in the Cowboys Stadium, but during the state fair!!

Those first three you mentioned are the only ones I can think of that make some sense. But even Oklahoma/Texas and UF/UGA might be better on campus. Didn't lots of people think the Iron Bowl was untouchable too until they finally moved it?

Anyway, South Carolina has exactly one more neutral site game on a future schedule and the sooner we can be down with them the better.

(01-02-2020 02:33 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-31-2019 08:00 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 09:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

I love our game in Jax vs the Gators!! Nothing like it!!! Army-Navy is awesome in Philly!! And what's Oklahoma-Texas without Big Tex and the Texas State Fair??? Sheesh, Arkansas-TAMU might turn into something special if it was played in the Cowboys Stadium, but during the state fair!!

Those first three you mentioned are the only ones I can think of that make some sense. But even Oklahoma/Texas and UF/UGA might be better on campus. Didn't lots of people think the Iron Bowl was untouchable too until they finally moved it?

Anyway, South Carolina has exactly one more neutral site game on a future schedule and the sooner we can be down with them the better.

Nothing is good about a neutral site game. It means neither team profits from concessions, parking, tailgating space sales, etc, and the local merchants which are always among some of the best donors lose out too.

I see no justification to keep the UGa / Fla game in Jacksonville. I see no need to play at Jerry World. And quite frankly corporations could sponsor a bowl without a location except for the higher seeded team's home stadium.

It is an antiquated system that allows these so called destination sites to glean the revenue of the game when the corporate sponsors don't care where it is played and neither does ESPN.

Solution: ESPN lines up the corporate sponsors and all bowl games except for the CFP is played at someone's home venue. Concessions are split for that game only. You cut out the middle man and everyone makes more and attendance is better.

The CFP rotates the Orange, Cotton, Rose, Sugar and Peach Bowls which remain destination bowls for New Year's.

(01-02-2020 03:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 02:33 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-31-2019 08:00 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 09:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

I love our game in Jax vs the Gators!! Nothing like it!!! Army-Navy is awesome in Philly!! And what's Oklahoma-Texas without Big Tex and the Texas State Fair??? Sheesh, Arkansas-TAMU might turn into something special if it was played in the Cowboys Stadium, but during the state fair!!

Those first three you mentioned are the only ones I can think of that make some sense. But even Oklahoma/Texas and UF/UGA might be better on campus. Didn't lots of people think the Iron Bowl was untouchable too until they finally moved it?

Anyway, South Carolina has exactly one more neutral site game on a future schedule and the sooner we can be down with them the better.

Nothing is good about a neutral site game. It means neither team profits from concessions, parking, tailgating space sales, etc, and the local merchants which are always among some of the best donors lose out too.

I see no justification to keep the UGa / Fla game in Jacksonville. I see no need to play at Jerry World. And quite frankly corporations could sponsor a bowl without a location except for the higher seeded team's home stadium.

It is an antiquated system that allows these so called destination sites to glean the revenue of the game when the corporate sponsors don't care where it is played and neither does ESPN.

Solution: ESPN lines up the corporate sponsors and all bowl games except for the CFP is played at someone's home venue. Concessions are split for that game only. You cut out the middle man and everyone makes more and attendance is better.

The CFP rotates the Orange, Cotton, Rose, Sugar and Peach Bowls which remain destination bowls for New Year's.

I agree. I think if UF/UGA and UT/Oklahoma ever moved to campus (I know UF/UGA did a two year hiatus in the 90s) then everyone would realize how awesome it is having a major rival like that at home every other year.

The only time a Neutral site makes sense is if it's is truly just a one off showcase between teams that never play (like Alabama/Southern Cal next year) or if the home stadium is just inadequate o meet the crowd needs (like Navy/Notre Dame or Army/Navy)

(01-02-2020 03:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 02:33 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(12-31-2019 08:00 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 09:00 AM)Gamecock Wrote:  Neutral site games all need to go IMO.

I love our game in Jax vs the Gators!! Nothing like it!!! Army-Navy is awesome in Philly!! And what's Oklahoma-Texas without Big Tex and the Texas State Fair??? Sheesh, Arkansas-TAMU might turn into something special if it was played in the Cowboys Stadium, but during the state fair!!

Those first three you mentioned are the only ones I can think of that make some sense. But even Oklahoma/Texas and UF/UGA might be better on campus. Didn't lots of people think the Iron Bowl was untouchable too until they finally moved it?

Anyway, South Carolina has exactly one more neutral site game on a future schedule and the sooner we can be down with them the better.

Nothing is good about a neutral site game. It means neither team profits from concessions, parking, tailgating space sales, etc, and the local merchants which are always among some of the best donors lose out too.

I see no justification to keep the UGa / Fla game in Jacksonville. I see no need to play at Jerry World. And quite frankly corporations could sponsor a bowl without a location except for the higher seeded team's home stadium.

It is an antiquated system that allows these so called destination sites to glean the revenue of the game when the corporate sponsors don't care where it is played and neither does ESPN.

Solution: ESPN lines up the corporate sponsors and all bowl games except for the CFP is played at someone's home venue. Concessions are split for that game only. You cut out the middle man and everyone makes more and attendance is better.

The CFP rotates the Orange, Cotton, Rose, Sugar and Peach Bowls which remain destination bowls for New Year's.

At the rate you are going, you might as well decree that all games, including Navy-Army and Navy-ND be played on campus.
Now, I can see why Auburn fans would be against neutral site games when 'Bama more or less used Birmingham back in the day to get out of having to travel to Auburn. Anyone that had half a brain knew where Birmingham's allegiances lie and it wasn't with Auburn. Auburn was getting screwed in that deal and they knew it. Jacksonville looks like we're (Georgia) is getting screwed, but really to be honest, we are not. Earlier, I would have been shocked to see myself posting that, because I used to really want Georgia-Florida on campus. Richt even advocated for that. However, some old Georgia fans taught me some stuff about Georgia-Florida. Yes, it's a game that is easy to get to for the Gators, but it's also a game for the south Georgia Dawg fans as well, and they won't go to any other game, but Georgia-Florida. In addition, it's an excuse for north Georgia fans as well as students to go to the beach. Having our bye week the week before Florida has really negated a lot of Florida's advantage, IMO. Recruiting issues might wind up necessitating a move to home and home, but that would be a big tragedy, IMO.

As for Texas-Oklahoma, that game really is an event, and unlike Jax, Dallas is literally halfway between Texas and Oklahoma. In addition, Texas and Oklahoma both have a lot of alumni in DFW.

Some of these nonserial neutral site games are the result of a scheduling compromise. Some schools reject doing home to home sequences, or the home stadium of a participant is viewed as inadequate for certain opponents and another venue is offered as part of a final deal.

The Bank of America stadium in Charlotte was a way to get a non-conference game with South Carolina and a NC school together regularly.

Both opponents may view there is no home field advantage for either.

I have mixed views on this. For example, for the GA-FLA game, Jacksonville (in FLA) gets a yearly boost in spending at hotels, restaurants, convenience stores, etc
Yet, UGA fans in south Georgia and north Florida have convenient travel to make a game. The cocktail party is a special characterization and atmosphere.

(01-03-2020 02:34 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Some of these nonserial neutral site games are the result of a scheduling compromise. Some schools reject doing home to home sequences, or the home stadium of a participant is viewed as inadequate for certain opponents and another venue is offered as part of a final deal.

The Bank of America stadium in Charlotte was a way to get a non-conference game with South Carolina and a NC school together regularly.

Both opponents may view there is no home field advantage for either.

I have mixed views on this. For example, for the GA-FLA game, Jacksonville (in FLA) gets a yearly boost in spending at hotels, restaurants, convenience stores, etc
Yet, UGA fans in south Georgia and north Florida have convenient travel to make a game. The cocktail party is a special characterization and atmosphere.

I know we have one on the book for 2023, but I pray that we don't schedule any more of these Charlotte games. I've been to every single one and they've all been pretty dreadful.