(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 05:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 02:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 01:44 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Online diploma mill with very low standards. I have no problem with attending a school online but Liberty is on par with the University of Phoenix.

How do you figure?

Presumably because he can read and do math...

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Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

I couldn't possibly care less about Liberty's religious affiliation. Likewise with BYU and Notre Dame.

The point is simply this, they utilize the most basic of academic requirements for entrance into their online degree program; a degree program with minimal instructor interaction, massive class sizes, and minimal interaction between classmates. It is almost purely and assuredly used to boost the assets of the school itself.

They need to label the online side of their offering as "For Profit" so it can be treated for what it is, a diploma mill and their primary source of revenue at minimal cost. It's a sham.

(12-17-2019 10:05 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 11:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 05:51 PM)panama Wrote:  Presumably because he can read and do math...

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Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

Not sure what that has to do with using online tuition as an ATM...

*pours coffee*

....but go on caller, I'm listening...

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I mean... you pretty much never like anything about Liberty, aside from their online doings. It's just another available shot to take at them to somehow affirm that they're a bad school.

They are a bad school.

There isn't much you can say to dispute that.

I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

(12-17-2019 12:15 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 10:05 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 11:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

Not sure what that has to do with using online tuition as an ATM...

*pours coffee*

....but go on caller, I'm listening...

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I mean... you pretty much never like anything about Liberty, aside from their online doings. It's just another available shot to take at them to somehow affirm that they're a bad school.

They are a bad school.

There isn't much you can say to dispute that.

agreed! bad school bad school

(12-17-2019 12:39 PM)APPrising Wrote:  I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

75% chance of rain as of right now

(12-17-2019 10:05 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 11:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 05:51 PM)panama Wrote:  Presumably because he can read and do math...

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Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

Not sure what that has to do with using online tuition as an ATM...

*pours coffee*

....but go on caller, I'm listening...

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I mean... you pretty much never like anything about Liberty, aside from their online doings. It's just another available shot to take at them to somehow affirm that they're a bad school.

...because they run a online diploma mill and do not act like any other university in FBS while doing so.

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(12-17-2019 12:13 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 05:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 02:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  How do you figure?

Presumably because he can read and do math...

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Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

I couldn't possibly care less about Liberty's religious affiliation. Likewise with BYU and Notre Dame.

The point is simply this, they utilize the most basic of academic requirements for entrance into their online degree program; a degree program with minimal instructor interaction, massive class sizes, and minimal interaction between classmates. It is almost purely and assuredly used to boost the assets of the school itself.

They need to label the online side of their offering as "For Profit" so it can be treated for what it is, a diploma mill and their primary source of revenue at minimal cost. It's a sham.

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(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 05:51 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 02:16 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 01:44 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  Online diploma mill with very low standards. I have no problem with attending a school online but Liberty is on par with the University of Phoenix.

How do you figure?

Presumably because he can read and do math...

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Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

UAB shared a conference with SMU and TCU. Both religiously affiliated universities. I was proud to share a conference with them. I want no part of any affiliation with Liberty.

(12-17-2019 12:59 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:39 PM)APPrising Wrote:  I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

75% chance of rain as of right now

1" of rain.

"s*****y weather games are our speciality"

(12-17-2019 03:23 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:59 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:39 PM)APPrising Wrote:  I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

75% chance of rain as of right now

1" of rain.

"s*****y weather games are our speciality"

Most of the rain is forecast for the evening hours. Looks like there may be showers during the day with the heavy stuff after dark.

(12-17-2019 12:15 PM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 10:05 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 11:25 PM)panama Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:11 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:40 PM)The Mandalorian Wrote:  Agreed. I have spoken

I think it's probably safe to say that these comments have less to do with their academic prowess and more to do with their religious background. Just call a spade a spade.

Not sure what that has to do with using online tuition as an ATM...

*pours coffee*

....but go on caller, I'm listening...

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I mean... you pretty much never like anything about Liberty, aside from their online doings. It's just another available shot to take at them to somehow affirm that they're a bad school.

They are a bad school.

There isn't much you can say to dispute that.

I don't care for their situational ethics on the matter of tenure. Their honor code? Don't enroll if you don't want to live under it because there are numerous cheaper places with less restrictive honor codes.

The actual school in Virginia that has in-person classes is relatively selective and outside their biology and geography courses, pretty mainstream.

It's the online school with it's papermill stink that rubs me really wrong.

(12-17-2019 05:09 PM)TripleO Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 03:23 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:59 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:39 PM)APPrising Wrote:  I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

75% chance of rain as of right now

1" of rain.

"s*****y weather games are our speciality"

Most of the rain is forecast for the evening hours. Looks like there may be showers during the day with the heavy stuff after dark.

Forecast called for .01" of rain every hour during the NMSU too.

It dumped over 2 inches.

(12-17-2019 03:23 PM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:59 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(12-17-2019 12:39 PM)APPrising Wrote:  I hope the Lord blesses Georgia Southern with lots of wind and rain for this game.

75% chance of rain as of right now

1" of rain.

"s*****y weather games are our speciality"

I'm loving the Obi-Wan vibes in this thread.

Who on here has taken an online course from Liberty?
I have not.

I pray that it rains like Hell and the GATA boys put pain on the fighting faldwells

(12-16-2019 10:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 09:38 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:59 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 03:19 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Billions of dollars from taxpayer backed student loans fund it all from poor folks who never earn a degree.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/magaz...nline.html

I doubt there is any school in this conference that hasn't made money in the same way. I don't it it's as much but I bet it's a bunch.

You could say this about just about every college in America. Look at Boone, it has grown fat and happy on easy access to student loan money. Most college towns and bigger cities' college neighborhoods are the same. There are many thing to criticize LU about, and many things to respect as well, but criticizing their acceptance of student loan money without also criticizing every other school for doing the same is disingenuous.

Liberty's online program with it's enrollment of 75,000 to 90,000 depending on who you believe requires nothing more than a high school diploma or a GED and you don't even have to provide proof. You just fill out this form and say you did. https://www.liberty.edu/media/1270/High_...ric_v1.pdf

Limiting admission to students with some probability of successfully completing college vs taking anyone are different things.

If this is the case then I don’t see how Liberty could ever join CUSA/AAC/SBC in the future (unless they make some major changes).

(12-18-2019 07:27 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 09:38 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:59 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 03:19 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  Billions of dollars from taxpayer backed student loans fund it all from poor folks who never earn a degree.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/magaz...nline.html

I doubt there is any school in this conference that hasn't made money in the same way. I don't it it's as much but I bet it's a bunch.

You could say this about just about every college in America. Look at Boone, it has grown fat and happy on easy access to student loan money. Most college towns and bigger cities' college neighborhoods are the same. There are many thing to criticize LU about, and many things to respect as well, but criticizing their acceptance of student loan money without also criticizing every other school for doing the same is disingenuous.

Liberty's online program with it's enrollment of 75,000 to 90,000 depending on who you believe requires nothing more than a high school diploma or a GED and you don't even have to provide proof. You just fill out this form and say you did. https://www.liberty.edu/media/1270/High_...ric_v1.pdf

Limiting admission to students with some probability of successfully completing college vs taking anyone are different things.

If this is the case then I don’t see how Liberty could ever join CUSA/AAC/SBC in the future (unless they make some major changes).

Main campus is fairly selective

(12-18-2019 11:28 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-18-2019 07:27 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 09:38 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 07:59 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  I doubt there is any school in this conference that hasn't made money in the same way. I don't it it's as much but I bet it's a bunch.

You could say this about just about every college in America. Look at Boone, it has grown fat and happy on easy access to student loan money. Most college towns and bigger cities' college neighborhoods are the same. There are many thing to criticize LU about, and many things to respect as well, but criticizing their acceptance of student loan money without also criticizing every other school for doing the same is disingenuous.

Liberty's online program with it's enrollment of 75,000 to 90,000 depending on who you believe requires nothing more than a high school diploma or a GED and you don't even have to provide proof. You just fill out this form and say you did. https://www.liberty.edu/media/1270/High_...ric_v1.pdf

Limiting admission to students with some probability of successfully completing college vs taking anyone are different things.

If this is the case then I don’t see how Liberty could ever join CUSA/AAC/SBC in the future (unless they make some major changes).

Main campus is fairly selective

But where does most of their cash come from and how is it used as a competitive advantage in athletics spending?

(12-18-2019 09:09 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Who on here has taken an online course from Liberty?
I have not.

I did classes online and in person at LU. I also went in person to Louisville and South Carolina. The classes, to me, were harder online than in person. I ended with an overall GPA of 3.9 but at LU it was a 3.55.

(12-19-2019 10:21 AM)ericsaid Wrote:  

(12-18-2019 11:28 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-18-2019 07:27 PM)T2003 Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 10:25 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(12-16-2019 09:38 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  You could say this about just about every college in America. Look at Boone, it has grown fat and happy on easy access to student loan money. Most college towns and bigger cities' college neighborhoods are the same. There are many thing to criticize LU about, and many things to respect as well, but criticizing their acceptance of student loan money without also criticizing every other school for doing the same is disingenuous.

Liberty's online program with it's enrollment of 75,000 to 90,000 depending on who you believe requires nothing more than a high school diploma or a GED and you don't even have to provide proof. You just fill out this form and say you did. https://www.liberty.edu/media/1270/High_...ric_v1.pdf

Limiting admission to students with some probability of successfully completing college vs taking anyone are different things.

If this is the case then I don’t see how Liberty could ever join CUSA/AAC/SBC in the future (unless they make some major changes).

Main campus is fairly selective

But where does most of their cash come from and how is it used as a competitive advantage in athletics spending?

There's the rub