Garrettabc
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2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally. If that were to happen then it would fairly even the playing field and monetary wise it would not really matter that much which teams were part of the playoffs. Since FBS teams are all part of the same system, it would make sense to split it up equally. A Conference can still negotiate their own tv deal and keep that and gate revenue for themselves.
2 A hard rule should be that any team that goes undefeated should be automatically in. It takes the control out of bias humans and gives it to each individual team.
The playoff committe’s job should then simply to figure out the rest of the 4 team playoff field and then seeding them.
The playoff should be about 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily the 4 best.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
I would like to see a more readily inclusive system as a fan of a non-power school but the playoff system and the money involved is a capitalistic approach. You get what you kill. Eastern Michigan isn’t worth to the CFP what Oklahoma is because they don’t bring the same viewership or advertising dollars. It’s actually more fair than forcing equality across the table. A non-power school can do the work to make it happen over time. Most of the power schools have had long sustained success for well over 100 years.
Forcing undefeateds into a playoff will result in more FCS or weak OOC opponents.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
Nope.
If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 08:01 PM)PicksUp Wrote: Nope.
If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
What’s stopping them is teams in their own conference. Besides that, if you schedule too light and lose 1 game then you would have a weaker resume than other 1 loss teams.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally.
(This post was last modified: 12-15-2019 08:36 PM by quo vadis.)
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
128 teams makes for the perfect bracket. 8 regions of 16 teams.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally. If that were to happen then it would fairly even the playing field and monetary wise it would not really matter that much which teams were part of the playoffs. Since FBS teams are all part of the same system, it would make sense to split it up equally. A Conference can still negotiate their own tv deal and keep that and gate revenue for themselves.
2 A hard rule should be that any team that goes undefeated should be automatically in. It takes the control out of bias humans and gives it to each individual team.
The playoff committe’s job should then simply to figure out the rest of the 4 team playoff field and then seeding them.
The playoff should be about 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily the 4 best.
This is why there simply must be some sort of exam people should have to pass in order to be given an internet connection. Sometimes democracy really does fail society, oh well.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 08:01 PM)PicksUp Wrote: If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
In a 5-1-2 it doesn't matter because only 1 undefeated is popping out of the SEC, B1G, XII, ACC, PAC due to the CCG.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 09:55 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:01 PM)PicksUp Wrote: If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
In a 5-1-2 it doesn't matter because only 1 undefeated is popping out of the SEC, B1G, XII, ACC, PAC due to the CCG.
asking for a friend, now many did we have this season?
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 10:00 PM)stever20 Wrote: (12-15-2019 09:55 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:01 PM)PicksUp Wrote: If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
In a 5-1-2 it doesn't matter because only 1 undefeated is popping out of the SEC, B1G, XII, ACC, PAC due to the CCG.
asking for a friend, now many did we have this season?
Looks like it was 3 right, 1 per SEC, B1G, ACC. First time the "P" I believe has produced 3 undefeated teams.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: The playoff should be about 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily the 4 best.
Can the 4 most deserving teams in a field of 130 be proven when teams play only a handful of games? I don't think so.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
Socialism pure and simple.
"Special? Oh, so he's one of those who gets a medal for participation"
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 10:04 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-15-2019 10:00 PM)stever20 Wrote: (12-15-2019 09:55 PM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:01 PM)PicksUp Wrote: If anyone with an undefeated record gets in then there’s nothing stopping Alabama, Oklahoma and Clemson from scheduling UTEP, NMSU, UMASS and UCONN for OOC every year.
In a 5-1-2 it doesn't matter because only 1 undefeated is popping out of the SEC, B1G, XII, ACC, PAC due to the CCG.
asking for a friend, now many did we have this season?
Looks like it was 3 right, 1 per SEC, B1G, ACC. First time the "P" I believe has produced 3 undefeated teams.
Yes, the number of pre-bowl unbeaten teams among the P5 during the CFP years has been 1, 1, 1, 0, 2, and 3.
Though I would count 2018 as a "3" as well, since Notre Dame is clearly a "P" team though not in a P5 conference.
(This post was last modified: 12-16-2019 07:48 AM by quo vadis.)
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-16-2019 12:30 AM)Stugray2 Wrote: Socialism pure and simple.
"Special? Oh, so he's one of those who gets a medal for participation"
If your school is part of a conference then they are already dividing up the bowl and playoff money. I’m suggesting to do it on a bigger scale.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 10:10 PM)chester Wrote: (12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: The playoff should be about 4 most deserving teams, not necessarily the 4 best.
Can the 4 most deserving teams in a field of 130 be proven when teams play only a handful of games? I don't think so.
No, but deserving is easier than "best."
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-15-2019 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally.
College presidents are by and large super liberal and a big fan of economics like this, except when it comes to college football
Then they turn into the Monopoly man
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-16-2019 09:06 AM)solohawks Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally.
College presidents are by and large super liberal and a big fan of economics like this, except when it comes to college football
Then they turn into the Monopoly man
The could use the post season as a platform to make it more fair while continuing their "P" traditions.
Significantly more fair from where we stand today is an 5-1-2 with more champs given a shot and perhaps a rule where if a team goes undefeated they are guaranteed a spot in it to help the smaller independent and G4 schools.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-16-2019 09:13 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:06 AM)solohawks Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally.
College presidents are by and large super liberal and a big fan of economics like this, except when it comes to college football
Then they turn into the Monopoly man
The could use the post season as a platform to make it more fair while continuing their "P" traditions.
Significantly more fair from where we stand today is an 5-1-2 with more champs given a shot and perhaps a rule where if a team goes undefeated they are guaranteed a spot in it to help the smaller independent and G4 schools.
lol, no chance in hell there's any undefeated rule. If you have the P5 champs rule- any major undefeated gets in.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-16-2019 09:24 AM)stever20 Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:13 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:06 AM)solohawks Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote: (12-15-2019 07:36 PM)Garrettabc Wrote: 1 All 128 FBS teams should split the bowl and playoff money equally.
College presidents are by and large super liberal and a big fan of economics like this, except when it comes to college football
Then they turn into the Monopoly man
The could use the post season as a platform to make it more fair while continuing their "P" traditions.
Significantly more fair from where we stand today is an 5-1-2 with more champs given a shot and perhaps a rule where if a team goes undefeated they are guaranteed a spot in it to help the smaller independent and G4 schools.
lol, no chance in hell there's any undefeated rule. If you have the P5 champs rule- any major undefeated gets in.
There is more independents now then before with no playoff access at the moment.
I expect they'll get more under the next contract. Does that mean only more money or does it mean a lowered access point to the playoff?
In the last 30 years of football I believe its only happened one time; 2009 when both Boise St and TCU went undefeated. Therefore I don't see the big risk in including an undefeated rule as part of the next contract but it would make things more fair.
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RE: 2 playoff reform rules that would be fair for everyone
(12-16-2019 09:42 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:24 AM)stever20 Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:13 AM)Kit-Cat Wrote: (12-16-2019 09:06 AM)solohawks Wrote: (12-15-2019 08:36 PM)quo vadis Wrote:
College presidents are by and large super liberal and a big fan of economics like this, except when it comes to college football
Then they turn into the Monopoly man
The could use the post season as a platform to make it more fair while continuing their "P" traditions.
Significantly more fair from where we stand today is an 5-1-2 with more champs given a shot and perhaps a rule where if a team goes undefeated they are guaranteed a spot in it to help the smaller independent and G4 schools.
lol, no chance in hell there's any undefeated rule. If you have the P5 champs rule- any major undefeated gets in.
There is more independents now then before with no playoff access at the moment.
I expect they'll get more under the next contract. Does that mean only more money or does it mean a lowered access point to the playoff?
In the last 30 years of football I believe its only happened one time; 2009 when both Boise St and TCU went undefeated. Therefore I don't see the big risk in including an undefeated rule as part of the next contract but it would make things more fair.
There's really no chance that those independents will get any more access. Also, since the 10 conferences run it, I don't see the money going up much for them....
There's going to be nothing in there to reward a team to schedule like **** to make a playoff.. Nothing. And that's what you are saying should happen. DOA.
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