(12-26-2019 08:26 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)

Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA) Edit
Youngstown State 1991–1999. Led by head coach Jim Tressel. YSU won four national championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1997) and appeared in six National Championship Games in nine years.

North Dakota State 2011–present. Led by coaches Craig Bohl, Chris Klieman, and Matt Entz, North Dakota State has won 7 National Championships in the past 8 years (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) and 9 consecutive MVFC titles. During this period they've accumulated a record of 124–8 (.939) which has included a 32–2 playoff record, two 33-game winning streaks, and 14-game winning streak. The seven championships in 8 years os a feat not accomplished at any other level in collegiate american football history. The 2014–15 senior class graduated with more National Championships than losses over their 4-year period. The Bison are known for having one of the top stout defenses in the FCS each year, owning the time of possession, and running the ball very physically. Sometimes referred to as the 'Alabama of the FCS', referencing FBS's Alabama's dominance throughout the same period of time and similar style of play.

Hmmm ... so GSU (6 titles) and App State (3 titles) don't qualify? YSU only has 4.

Yet, when I merely mentioned App State at the same time as JMU, the response was "how dare you compare us to an actual dynasty"

Reality is there is no complete black and white answer on when a team qualifies. From the above linked definition:

"whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other."

Georgia Southern’s run from 1985 to 1990 certainly warrants talk of a dynasty and somehow where left off the list. JMU is on the way, just premature at this time to crown them a dynasty just yet.

(12-26-2019 08:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:26 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)

Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA) Edit
Youngstown State 1991–1999. Led by head coach Jim Tressel. YSU won four national championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1997) and appeared in six National Championship Games in nine years.

North Dakota State 2011–present. Led by coaches Craig Bohl, Chris Klieman, and Matt Entz, North Dakota State has won 7 National Championships in the past 8 years (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) and 9 consecutive MVFC titles. During this period they've accumulated a record of 124–8 (.939) which has included a 32–2 playoff record, two 33-game winning streaks, and 14-game winning streak. The seven championships in 8 years os a feat not accomplished at any other level in collegiate american football history. The 2014–15 senior class graduated with more National Championships than losses over their 4-year period. The Bison are known for having one of the top stout defenses in the FCS each year, owning the time of possession, and running the ball very physically. Sometimes referred to as the 'Alabama of the FCS', referencing FBS's Alabama's dominance throughout the same period of time and similar style of play.

Hmmm ... so GSU (6 titles) and App State (3 titles) don't qualify? YSU only has 4.

Yet, when I merely mentioned App State at the same time as JMU, the response was "how dare you compare us to an actual dynasty"

Reality is there is no complete black and white answer on when a team qualifies. From the above linked definition:

"whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other."

2 championships in 15 years does not equate to a dynasty and I'm not sure how some people see otherwise. Even if we win this year 2 out of 4 years really doesnt give a dynastic feel especially when we're in the middle of another team's historic run. Can anyone name two dynasties that have happened concurrently in the same sport? If we win this year and next then i would definitely say 3 wins in 5 years is in consideration. But i think some fans are kidding themselves with a run of historic seasons since 2016.

I believe someone else brought up the Bills in the 90s that went to four straight super bowls. Dont think I've heard any mention of their dynasty. In fact all you hear about them is the team that couldnt close the deal.

Sure CAA titles are great but conference championships dont tell the whole story. The Pats have won the AFC east something like 16 out of the last 18 years yet all thats talked about is the superbowl wins. The yanks finish first or 2nd in the AL east basically every year since the late 90s year their dynasties are based on the world series rings

Listed as NOT dynasties:

Most disputes about dynasties relate to teams that dominated within a conference or division, but either failed to win championships or infrequently won championships. This is exacerbated in NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision (formerly Division I-A), where the national champion is determined, at least in part, by poll rather than through a tournament.

Atlanta Braves Won 14 straight division titles from 1991 to 2005, and won 5 NL pennants during the 1990s, but could only win one World Series in 1995.

Buffalo Bills won 4 AFC Championships in a row from 1990 to 1993, the only team ever to do so, and for this they are sometimes considered a dynasty.[99][145] However, they went on to lose the Super Bowl all four times; the Bills' AFC dominance partially overlapped with the Dallas Cowboys dynasty.

Boise State Broncos football from 1998 to 2008. At 113–26, their 81.29% win rate was the highest in the nation.[146] Won ten of twelve conference championships from 1999 to 2009, undefeated in conference play in 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008, and 2009, perfect seasons in 2006 and 2009, but has never been selected to play in the Division I-A national championship.

(12-26-2019 09:20 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:26 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)

Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA) Edit
Youngstown State 1991–1999. Led by head coach Jim Tressel. YSU won four national championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1997) and appeared in six National Championship Games in nine years.

North Dakota State 2011–present. Led by coaches Craig Bohl, Chris Klieman, and Matt Entz, North Dakota State has won 7 National Championships in the past 8 years (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) and 9 consecutive MVFC titles. During this period they've accumulated a record of 124–8 (.939) which has included a 32–2 playoff record, two 33-game winning streaks, and 14-game winning streak. The seven championships in 8 years os a feat not accomplished at any other level in collegiate american football history. The 2014–15 senior class graduated with more National Championships than losses over their 4-year period. The Bison are known for having one of the top stout defenses in the FCS each year, owning the time of possession, and running the ball very physically. Sometimes referred to as the 'Alabama of the FCS', referencing FBS's Alabama's dominance throughout the same period of time and similar style of play.

Hmmm ... so GSU (6 titles) and App State (3 titles) don't qualify? YSU only has 4.

Yet, when I merely mentioned App State at the same time as JMU, the response was "how dare you compare us to an actual dynasty"

Reality is there is no complete black and white answer on when a team qualifies. From the above linked definition:

"whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other."

2 championships in 15 years does not equate to a dynasty and I'm not sure how some people see otherwise. Even if we win this year 2 out of 4 years really doesnt give a dynastic feel especially when we're in the middle of another team's historic run. Can anyone name two dynasties that have happened concurrently in the same sport? If we win this year and next then i would definitely say 3 wins in 5 years is in consideration. But i think some fans are kidding themselves with a run of historic seasons since 2016.

I believe someone else brought up the Bills in the 90s that went to four straight super bowls. Dont think I've heard any mention of their dynasty. In fact all you hear about them is the team that couldnt close the deal.

Sure CAA titles are great but conference championships dont tell the whole story. The Pats have won the AFC east something like 16 out of the last 18 years yet all thats talked about is the superbowl wins. The yanks finish first or 2nd in the AL east basically every year since the late 90s year their dynasties are based on the world series rings

I see it pretty much the same as you. The one thing not addressed is that though I love my Dukes, I firmly believe that if Boise State, Marshall, Troy, Appy, GA South, and ODU had not moved their game up to the next level, there would be no dynasty discussed for either NDSU nor JMU. We'd simply be among the best.

(12-26-2019 09:20 PM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:26 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)

Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA) Edit
Youngstown State 1991–1999. Led by head coach Jim Tressel. YSU won four national championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1997) and appeared in six National Championship Games in nine years.

North Dakota State 2011–present. Led by coaches Craig Bohl, Chris Klieman, and Matt Entz, North Dakota State has won 7 National Championships in the past 8 years (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) and 9 consecutive MVFC titles. During this period they've accumulated a record of 124–8 (.939) which has included a 32–2 playoff record, two 33-game winning streaks, and 14-game winning streak. The seven championships in 8 years os a feat not accomplished at any other level in collegiate american football history. The 2014–15 senior class graduated with more National Championships than losses over their 4-year period. The Bison are known for having one of the top stout defenses in the FCS each year, owning the time of possession, and running the ball very physically. Sometimes referred to as the 'Alabama of the FCS', referencing FBS's Alabama's dominance throughout the same period of time and similar style of play.

Hmmm ... so GSU (6 titles) and App State (3 titles) don't qualify? YSU only has 4.

Yet, when I merely mentioned App State at the same time as JMU, the response was "how dare you compare us to an actual dynasty"

Reality is there is no complete black and white answer on when a team qualifies. From the above linked definition:

"whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other."

2 championships in 15 years does not equate to a dynasty and I'm not sure how some people see otherwise. Even if we win this year 2 out of 4 years really doesnt give a dynastic feel especially when we're in the middle of another team's historic run. Can anyone name two dynasties that have happened concurrently in the same sport? If we win this year and next then i would definitely say 3 wins in 5 years is in consideration. But i think some fans are kidding themselves with a run of historic seasons since 2016.

I believe someone else brought up the Bills in the 90s that went to four straight super bowls. Dont think I've heard any mention of their dynasty. In fact all you hear about them is the team that couldnt close the deal.

Sure CAA titles are great but conference championships dont tell the whole story. The Pats have won the AFC east something like 16 out of the last 18 years yet all thats talked about is the superbowl wins. The yanks finish first or 2nd in the AL east basically every year since the late 90s year their dynasties are based on the world series rings

Agreed. Its pretty silly that some people think 2 titles over 15 seasons makes a dynasty.

Agreed, making 3 of 4 NC games, winning 2 isn't a dynasty. Was EKU a dynasty for going to 4 straight NC games 79'-82', winning 2 titles?

I don't see any overlap with the 4 definite dynasties going back to the 1980s I-AA.
-GSU 6 seasons 85'-90', 4 titles.
-YSU 7 seasons 91'-97', 5 NC games, 4 titles.
-ASU 3 seasons 05'-07', 3 NC games, 3 titles.
-NDSU 9 seasons 2011-2019, 8 NC games, 7 titles.
There's only overlap if you include Marshall & Montana as dynasties. I would say no to both, because like EKU, only 2 titles:
Marshal 6 seasons 91'-96', 5 NC games, 2 titles.
Montana 7 seasons 95'-01', 4 NC games, 2 titles. Expand to 15 seasons 95'-09', made 7 NC games, but still only the 2 titles..

2 concurrent dynasties. Mt Union and Wisconsin Whitewater. Copy/paste from my earlier post:
19 seasons 2000-2018: Mount Union made 17 NC appearances, won 9 (they have 13 NCs overall). Something like 266-12, with half of those losses to Wis Whitewater..55 and 54 game winning streaks. Mind boggling 117 game regular season winning streak.
2005-2014, 9 of 10 seasons Wisconsin Whitewater vs Mt Union in the Stagg Bowl. Wis Whitewater won 6. 137-8 in that period, with a 45 game winning streak.

Yes, 3 titles in 5 years would be a dynasty. Even over 6-7 years. If JMU beats NDSU, then wins another over the next 2-3 seasons, then would be over 6-7 seasons, making 4-5 NC games, winning 3 titles. Then by all means slap on the 'D' word.

(12-26-2019 07:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-25-2019 09:18 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:38 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  We are in the throws of being a dynasty. There isn't another program in FCS other than NDSU who doesn't want to have and be what JMU is.

3 Natty appearances in 4 years is pretty darned good. We are one of the top 3 or 4 programs in FCS.

I'll take it and hope to be even more dominant. After 1/11/20 we will have beaten NDSU 2 out of 3.

(12-24-2019 05:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Shout out to this JMU Dynasty making it to the Chip for the fourth time and dominating the CAA once again for another conference title. There are 125 FCS teams and how many can make the claims we make every yr. time for our Dynasty to go 3/4 in title games !

Bro with all due respect this isn't even close to a dynasty and saying it is just makes us look silly and small time.

With all due respect , dominating the CAA is a task within itself. I'm pretty sure the other teams in the CAA call us a dynasty. Second , we have dominated one side of the playoff bracket 4 times in the last 15 years. Having played in the playoffs , these feats are extremely difficult, and for us to continually be in this situation multiple times proves we are a dynasty. This just shows how some of our fan base expectations have been spoiled by these riches and want more.

No one in the CAA calls us a dynasty. Literally no one. Even if they did they'd be wrong.

I loved you as a player and respect you sir but you're just wrong on this one. Your bar is wayyyyyy too low. Maybe if NDSU hadn't won as many in a row as they did we could have the conversation, but the bar has been set by the Bison. Hell it was set by App State back in the day. Until we win 3 in a row there's no conversation to be had.

(12-27-2019 09:04 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 07:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-25-2019 09:18 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:38 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  We are in the throws of being a dynasty. There isn't another program in FCS other than NDSU who doesn't want to have and be what JMU is.

3 Natty appearances in 4 years is pretty darned good. We are one of the top 3 or 4 programs in FCS.

I'll take it and hope to be even more dominant. After 1/11/20 we will have beaten NDSU 2 out of 3.

(12-24-2019 05:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Shout out to this JMU Dynasty making it to the Chip for the fourth time and dominating the CAA once again for another conference title. There are 125 FCS teams and how many can make the claims we make every yr. time for our Dynasty to go 3/4 in title games !

Bro with all due respect this isn't even close to a dynasty and saying it is just makes us look silly and small time.

With all due respect , dominating the CAA is a task within itself. I'm pretty sure the other teams in the CAA call us a dynasty. Second , we have dominated one side of the playoff bracket 4 times in the last 15 years. Having played in the playoffs , these feats are extremely difficult, and for us to continually be in this situation multiple times proves we are a dynasty. This just shows how some of our fan base expectations have been spoiled by these riches and want more.

No one in the CAA calls us a dynasty. Literally no one. Even if they did they'd be wrong.

I loved you as a player and respect you sir but you're just wrong on this one. Your bar is wayyyyyy too low. Maybe if NDSU hadn't won as many in a row as they did we could have the conversation, but the bar has been set by the Bison. Hell it was set by App State back in the day. Until we win 3 in a row there's no conversation to be had.

Thanks
My bar is not low at all, if we were placed in NDSU's conference our playoff chances would be higher. Also we have dominated the CAA the last couple years which equates to CAA titles. My definition of our dynasty is not set by other schools or writers. This is our third Title chance in 4 years , that means three times we dominated our side of the bracket in 4 years. These last four years have convinced me that we are ready for FBS football.

(12-27-2019 02:08 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-27-2019 09:04 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 07:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-25-2019 09:18 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-23-2019 02:38 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  We are in the throws of being a dynasty. There isn't another program in FCS other than NDSU who doesn't want to have and be what JMU is.

3 Natty appearances in 4 years is pretty darned good. We are one of the top 3 or 4 programs in FCS.

I'll take it and hope to be even more dominant. After 1/11/20 we will have beaten NDSU 2 out of 3.

(12-24-2019 05:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  Shout out to this JMU Dynasty making it to the Chip for the fourth time and dominating the CAA once again for another conference title. There are 125 FCS teams and how many can make the claims we make every yr. time for our Dynasty to go 3/4 in title games !

Bro with all due respect this isn't even close to a dynasty and saying it is just makes us look silly and small time.

With all due respect , dominating the CAA is a task within itself. I'm pretty sure the other teams in the CAA call us a dynasty. Second , we have dominated one side of the playoff bracket 4 times in the last 15 years. Having played in the playoffs , these feats are extremely difficult, and for us to continually be in this situation multiple times proves we are a dynasty. This just shows how some of our fan base expectations have been spoiled by these riches and want more.

No one in the CAA calls us a dynasty. Literally no one. Even if they did they'd be wrong.

I loved you as a player and respect you sir but you're just wrong on this one. Your bar is wayyyyyy too low. Maybe if NDSU hadn't won as many in a row as they did we could have the conversation, but the bar has been set by the Bison. Hell it was set by App State back in the day. Until we win 3 in a row there's no conversation to be had.

Thanks
My bar is not low at all, if we were placed in NDSU's conference our playoff chances would be higher. Also we have dominated the CAA the last couple years which equates to CAA titles. My definition of our dynasty is not set by other schools or writers. This is our third Title chance in 4 years , that means three times we dominated our side of the bracket in 4 years. These last four years have convinced me that we are ready for FBS football.

We are ready for FBS football. We are not a dynasty. Dominating a bracket doesn't mean we are a dynasty. Success over a "Long period of time" is what determines a dynasty. Being a runner up and losing to Colgate totally negates any talk of dynasty there.
There's a huge difference between being a team that dominates for a few years and a team that's a dynasty.

(12-27-2019 02:52 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-27-2019 02:08 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-27-2019 09:04 AM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 07:59 PM)Hotrod829 Wrote:  

(12-25-2019 09:18 PM)DirtyDukes Wrote:  Bro with all due respect this isn't even close to a dynasty and saying it is just makes us look silly and small time.

With all due respect , dominating the CAA is a task within itself. I'm pretty sure the other teams in the CAA call us a dynasty. Second , we have dominated one side of the playoff bracket 4 times in the last 15 years. Having played in the playoffs , these feats are extremely difficult, and for us to continually be in this situation multiple times proves we are a dynasty. This just shows how some of our fan base expectations have been spoiled by these riches and want more.

No one in the CAA calls us a dynasty. Literally no one. Even if they did they'd be wrong.

I loved you as a player and respect you sir but you're just wrong on this one. Your bar is wayyyyyy too low. Maybe if NDSU hadn't won as many in a row as they did we could have the conversation, but the bar has been set by the Bison. Hell it was set by App State back in the day. Until we win 3 in a row there's no conversation to be had.

Thanks
My bar is not low at all, if we were placed in NDSU's conference our playoff chances would be higher. Also we have dominated the CAA the last couple years which equates to CAA titles. My definition of our dynasty is not set by other schools or writers. This is our third Title chance in 4 years , that means three times we dominated our side of the bracket in 4 years. These last four years have convinced me that we are ready for FBS football.

We are ready for FBS football. We are not a dynasty. Dominating a bracket doesn't mean we are a dynasty. Success over a "Long period of time" is what determines a dynasty. Being a runner up and losing to Colgate totally negates any talk of dynasty there.
If There's a huge difference between being a team that dominates for a few years and a team that's a dynasty.

Does App St qualify? They dominated “for a few years”, just happened to be successive years and they ended up on the right side of the Natty game each time.

In some respects I find it silly to be so worked up over the phrasing. Have we topped NDSU? Certainly not yet. But, if we win this year and land a third Natty, that’s pretty damn elite company in FCS.

IMO this conversation is equally as pointless as the people who wring their hands about playoff attendance numbers.

(12-28-2019 07:05 AM)JBB Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 09:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So our friends at gohens wonder.
http://gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26384

JMU is trying to buy a title. They outspend NDSU by 2:1 in football. NDSU routinely beats teams with huge athletic budgets. JMUs 50 million is peanuts yet it has made JMU the second best. You don’t have to be good at football like NDSU you just need a ton of money like JMU to get to second place.

Geez, let's all just enjoy this ride, please. Focus on January 11 and winning our third Natty. We are da man; so to speak.

(12-28-2019 07:05 AM)JBB Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 09:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So our friends at gohens wonder.
http://gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26384

JMU is trying to buy a title. They outspend NDSU by 2:1 in football. NDSU routinely beats teams with huge athletic budgets. JMUs 50 million is peanuts yet it has made JMU the second best. You don’t have to be good at football like NDSU you just need a ton of money like JMU to get to second place.

1st post ever, registered in the lead up to the last time JMU played NDSU in the championship game. Sounds like a fan!




Just not a JMU fan.

(12-30-2019 11:40 AM)Dignan Wrote:  

(12-28-2019 07:05 AM)JBB Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 09:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So our friends at gohens wonder.
http://gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26384

JMU is trying to buy a title. They outspend NDSU by 2:1 in football. NDSU routinely beats teams with huge athletic budgets. JMUs 50 million is peanuts yet it has made JMU the second best. You don’t have to be good at football like NDSU you just need a ton of money like JMU to get to second place.

1st post ever, registered in the lead up to the last time JMU played NDSU in the championship game. Sounds like a fan!




Just not a JMU fan.

Doesn't take a detective to figure this one out! It took two years to post and that's the best it could come up with?

lol @ rep points and comments

(12-30-2019 11:54 AM)JMad03 Wrote:  

(12-30-2019 11:40 AM)Dignan Wrote:  

(12-28-2019 07:05 AM)JBB Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 09:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So our friends at gohens wonder.
http://gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26384

JMU is trying to buy a title. They outspend NDSU by 2:1 in football. NDSU routinely beats teams with huge athletic budgets. JMUs 50 million is peanuts yet it has made JMU the second best. You don’t have to be good at football like NDSU you just need a ton of money like JMU to get to second place.

1st post ever, registered in the lead up to the last time JMU played NDSU in the championship game. Sounds like a fan!




Just not a JMU fan.

Doesn't take a detective to figure this one out! It took two years to post and that's the best it could come up with?

Sounds like he has peanuts envy.

(12-28-2019 07:05 AM)JBB Wrote:  

(12-09-2019 09:54 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  So our friends at gohens wonder.
http://gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=26384

JMU is trying to buy a title. They outspend NDSU by 2:1 in football. NDSU routinely beats teams with huge athletic budgets. JMUs 50 million is peanuts yet it has made JMU the second best. You don’t have to be good at football like NDSU you just need a ton of money like JMU to get to second place.

I love the "they have more money" comments but they don't actually talk about real numbers. As an example; The Fargo Dome sits on land owned by NDSU but they don't own the building. The city of Fargo built, maintains, and owns the Fargo Dome. NDSU annual rent payment to the city of Fargo is $1.00. I would guess our athletic budget would look quite different of we didn't have the expense of BFS, practice facility, training center, ect...

(12-26-2019 08:49 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(12-26-2019 08:26 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)

Football Championship Subdivision (Formerly Division I-AA) Edit
Youngstown State 1991–1999. Led by head coach Jim Tressel. YSU won four national championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1997) and appeared in six National Championship Games in nine years.

North Dakota State 2011–present. Led by coaches Craig Bohl, Chris Klieman, and Matt Entz, North Dakota State has won 7 National Championships in the past 8 years (2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018) and 9 consecutive MVFC titles. During this period they've accumulated a record of 124–8 (.939) which has included a 32–2 playoff record, two 33-game winning streaks, and 14-game winning streak. The seven championships in 8 years os a feat not accomplished at any other level in collegiate american football history. The 2014–15 senior class graduated with more National Championships than losses over their 4-year period. The Bison are known for having one of the top stout defenses in the FCS each year, owning the time of possession, and running the ball very physically. Sometimes referred to as the 'Alabama of the FCS', referencing FBS's Alabama's dominance throughout the same period of time and similar style of play.

Hmmm ... so GSU (6 titles) and App State (3 titles) don't qualify? YSU only has 4.

Yet, when I merely mentioned App State at the same time as JMU, the response was "how dare you compare us to an actual dynasty"

Reality is there is no complete black and white answer on when a team qualifies. From the above linked definition:

"whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other."

Well it is Wikipedia, so if someone wanted to take the time to update it and include them I'm sure it would stick unless someone is the self described 'dynasty police' and erases it.

DC United is on there for their 3 titles in 4 years (plus other major hardware) as a dynasty from 1996-1999 so it can happen.