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no mention of money but espn maintains the status quo until the great explosion of 2025 occurs

My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

(12-03-2019 10:45 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  no mention of money but espn maintains the status quo until the great explosion of 2025 occurs

Yep, seems that way. Isn't that around the time of our "look-in" in our new contract?

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

That is a pretty good deal for them then.

(12-03-2019 10:56 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

That is a pretty good deal for them then.

That is a sweet deal indeed. No BYU to the AAC then.

Makes me wonder what some of our top programs would be worth a la carte. But yeah, that's a great deal and doesn't exactly put BYU in any rush to join a conference.

(12-03-2019 11:16 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Makes me wonder what some of our top programs would be worth a la carte. But yeah, that's a great deal and doesn't exactly put BYU in any rush to join a conference.

None of us have the reach of the Mormon Church

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

Your BYU friend might be wishful thinking....

(12-03-2019 11:23 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 11:16 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote:  Makes me wonder what some of our top programs would be worth a la carte. But yeah, that's a great deal and doesn't exactly put BYU in any rush to join a conference.

None of us have the reach of the Mormon Church

Not gonna touch that.....

Well they made it clear they were not interested... Bring in Air Force!

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

Odd isn't that what they said about their last contract?

The deal isn't even new, it appears that BYU got the same deal they were trying to say wasn't done at media days because of bowls. It is a status quo contract where BYU kept an extra game in return for giving up its illusion of better bowls.

Depending on who they play and what channel the game is on they will get a sliding scale. The max they could make is 8m, if all four games were against A5 opponents and on ABC. More than likely it will be around 4m with most games late night on ESPN/2.

They will participate every year in an ESPN bowl so the Hawaii and the Potato bowl are probably their best choice. This year is a perfect example had they gone 6-6 or 11-1 they were always going to Hawaii, even with all the moving parts and conferences not filling all their bowl bids.

Poo

Air Force come on down, you’re the next contestant on the Price is Right!

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

Odd isn't that what they said about their last contract?

The deal isn't even new, it appears that BYU got the same deal they were trying to say wasn't done at media days because of bowls. It is a status quo contract where BYU kept an extra game in return for giving up its illusion of better bowls.

Depending on who they play and what channel the game is on they will get a sliding scale. The max they could make is 8m, if all four games were against A5 opponents and on ABC. More than likely it will be around 4m with most games late night on ESPN/2.

Low end for 4 games under the old contract would have been over $3M for 4 games on ESPNU. The new deal is 'not quite' double the old deal. BYU has made about $4-6M per year from the original ESPN TV deal.

So, the floor for 4 games under the new deal is likely $4M. But, it wouldn't be hard to see the new deal have a straight-up $8M payment from ESPN. The PAC 12 makes $3-4M per game from FOX and ESPN, including lots of 10pm ET ESPN2 games; the AAC will make about $1.5-2M per game from ESPN in the new deal (not sure how many annual AAC games ESPN contracted to broadcast on ABC/ESPN/2/U).

Over the last 5 years:

ABC = 3
ESPN = 6
ESPN2 = 9
ESPNU = 4
BYUTV/ESPN3 = 8

It's not difficult to see ESPN pay BYU about $2M per game, especially when you see the home schedules from 2020 to 2026:

2020 - Michigan State, Missouri, Houston, Utah State...San Diego State and FCS for BYUtv
2021 - Utah, Arizona State, Boise State, Virginia....South Florida and FCS for BYUtv
2022 - Baylor, Arkansas, Utah State, Wyoming....ECU and FCS for BYUtv
2023 - Tennessee, Stanford, Boise State, UNLV...Rice and FCS for BYUtv
2024 - UCF, Hawaii, TBD, TBD...Georgia Southern for BYUtv
2025 - Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, TBD
2026 - Utah, Arizona, Boise State, TBD

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  They will participate every year in an ESPN bowl so the Hawaii and the Potato bowl are probably their best choice. This year is a perfect example had they gone 6-6 or 11-1 they were always going to Hawaii, even with all the moving parts and conferences not filling all their bowl bids.

First Responder and Armed Forces will probably be our best choice because we would likely get a decent bowl opponent and our attendance has been good in Texas. Hawaii would be an acceptable alternate, as would Birmingham, if it's a solid opponent. Idaho, New Mexico, Frisco, etc. would be better than nothing. It's too bad ESPN doesn't have a California bowl in its pool.

(12-03-2019 01:54 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:48 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  My BYU friends are saying $8,000,000 a year for 4 games on ESPN main channels

so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

Odd isn't that what they said about their last contract?

The deal isn't even new, it appears that BYU got the same deal they were trying to say wasn't done at media days because of bowls. It is a status quo contract where BYU kept an extra game in return for giving up its illusion of better bowls.

Depending on who they play and what channel the game is on they will get a sliding scale. The max they could make is 8m, if all four games were against A5 opponents and on ABC. More than likely it will be around 4m with most games late night on ESPN/2.

Low end for 4 games under the old contract would have been over $3M for 4 games on ESPNU. The new deal is 'not quite' double the old deal. BYU has made about $4-6M per year from the original ESPN TV deal.

So, the floor for 4 games under the new deal is likely $4M. But, it wouldn't be hard to see the new deal have a straight-up $8M payment from ESPN. The PAC 12 makes $3-4M per game from FOX and ESPN, including lots of 10pm ET ESPN2 games; the AAC will make about $1.5-2M per game from ESPN in the new deal (not sure how many annual AAC games ESPN contracted to broadcast on ABC/ESPN/2/U).

Over the last 5 years:

ABC = 3
ESPN = 6
ESPN2 = 9
ESPNU = 4
BYUTV/ESPN3 = 8

It's not difficult to see ESPN pay BYU about $2M per game, especially when you see the home schedules from 2020 to 2026:

2020 - Michigan State, Missouri, Houston, Utah State...San Diego State and FCS for BYUtv
2021 - Utah, Arizona State, Boise State, Virginia....South Florida and FCS for BYUtv
2022 - Baylor, Arkansas, Utah State, Wyoming....ECU and FCS for BYUtv
2023 - Tennessee, Stanford, Boise State, UNLV...Rice and FCS for BYUtv
2024 - UCF, Hawaii, TBD, TBD...Georgia Southern for BYUtv
2025 - Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, TBD
2026 - Utah, Arizona, Boise State, TBD

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  They will participate every year in an ESPN bowl so the Hawaii and the Potato bowl are probably their best choice. This year is a perfect example had they gone 6-6 or 11-1 they were always going to Hawaii, even with all the moving parts and conferences not filling all their bowl bids.

First Responder and Armed Forces will probably be our best choice because we would likely get a decent bowl opponent and our attendance has been good in Texas. Hawaii would be an acceptable alternate, as would Birmingham, if it's a solid opponent. Idaho, New Mexico, Frisco, etc. would be better than nothing. It's too bad ESPN doesn't have a California bowl in its pool.

It's not pool, its bowls owned by ESPN which is different. Those other bowls have signed deals, but yes a couple bowls in Texas may be possible, although some of those are openned this year and you are still going to Hawaii.

Using your current record on tv

6 million ABC (2m a game)
8.4 million ESPN (1.2m)
8.1 million ESPN 2 (900k)
2.4 million ESPNU (600k)

For just over 4 million a year. So you need all 4 games on ABC to reach 8m but 4 games on espn is still about 5m, which is probably what the average will be as I assume no more than one game a year can be put on the U and you probably have at least one game worth an ABC slot a year in your upcoming schedule and probably two in 2021 and 2023 which will be your best paying years currently scheduled.

Current BYU TV deal (for home games, not neutral games) is:

$1.2M for any games on ABC/ESPN/2
800K for any games on ESPNU

Deal states that BYU gets:
3 games every year, minimum, on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2
1 game every year on ESPNU
1 game every year on BYUtv
(12th game is an ESPN option, that ESPN can buy, or give to BYUtv)

Typically, ESPN has elected to purchase 5 BYU home games per year, with one game on ESPNU.

So payout has averaged about $5.6M per year (actually more than that, since BYU has regularly schedule neutral games, and gets a higher payout from those).


Assuming the same deal, but with higher payouts ($1.8M per home game on ABC/ESPN/ESPN, and 1.2M per home game on ESPNU), you can expect about $8.4M per year payout to BYU. And that's a pretty conservative estimate, since most have said the payout is just under double what BYU was getting before (i.e., $5.6M)

(12-03-2019 02:38 PM)MWCRobert Wrote:  Current BYU TV deal (for home games, not neutral games) is:

$1.2M for any games on ABC/ESPN/2
800K for any games on ESPNU

Deal states that BYU gets:
3 games every year, minimum, on ABC, ESPN, ESPN2
1 game every year on ESPNU
1 game every year on BYUtv
(12th game is an ESPN option, that ESPN can buy, or give to BYUtv)

Typically, ESPN has elected to purchase 5 BYU home games per year, with one game on ESPNU.

So payout has averaged about $5.6M per year (actually more than that, since BYU has regularly schedule neutral games, and gets a higher payout from those).


Assuming the same deal, but with higher payouts ($1.8M per home game on ABC/ESPN/ESPN, and 1.2M per home game on ESPNU), you can expect about $8.4M per year payout to BYU. And that's a pretty conservative estimate, since most have said the payout is just under double what BYU was getting before (i.e., $5.6M)

that's was based on false info..byus financial statements were leaked i believe 2 years ago...they made 4mil from all media rights...and that didn't indicate how much was from revenues made from byu tv

8 mil has almost no chance at reality

(12-03-2019 02:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 01:54 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(12-03-2019 10:49 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  so 4 out of 6 home games basically on ABC/ESPN/2?

Rest on BYU tv (the FCS game and another)

Odd isn't that what they said about their last contract?

The deal isn't even new, it appears that BYU got the same deal they were trying to say wasn't done at media days because of bowls. It is a status quo contract where BYU kept an extra game in return for giving up its illusion of better bowls.

Depending on who they play and what channel the game is on they will get a sliding scale. The max they could make is 8m, if all four games were against A5 opponents and on ABC. More than likely it will be around 4m with most games late night on ESPN/2.

Low end for 4 games under the old contract would have been over $3M for 4 games on ESPNU. The new deal is 'not quite' double the old deal. BYU has made about $4-6M per year from the original ESPN TV deal.

So, the floor for 4 games under the new deal is likely $4M. But, it wouldn't be hard to see the new deal have a straight-up $8M payment from ESPN. The PAC 12 makes $3-4M per game from FOX and ESPN, including lots of 10pm ET ESPN2 games; the AAC will make about $1.5-2M per game from ESPN in the new deal (not sure how many annual AAC games ESPN contracted to broadcast on ABC/ESPN/2/U).

Over the last 5 years:

ABC = 3
ESPN = 6
ESPN2 = 9
ESPNU = 4
BYUTV/ESPN3 = 8

It's not difficult to see ESPN pay BYU about $2M per game, especially when you see the home schedules from 2020 to 2026:

2020 - Michigan State, Missouri, Houston, Utah State...San Diego State and FCS for BYUtv
2021 - Utah, Arizona State, Boise State, Virginia....South Florida and FCS for BYUtv
2022 - Baylor, Arkansas, Utah State, Wyoming....ECU and FCS for BYUtv
2023 - Tennessee, Stanford, Boise State, UNLV...Rice and FCS for BYUtv
2024 - UCF, Hawaii, TBD, TBD...Georgia Southern for BYUtv
2025 - Stanford, Minnesota, Virginia, TBD
2026 - Utah, Arizona, Boise State, TBD

(12-03-2019 11:48 AM)Foreverandever Wrote:  They will participate every year in an ESPN bowl so the Hawaii and the Potato bowl are probably their best choice. This year is a perfect example had they gone 6-6 or 11-1 they were always going to Hawaii, even with all the moving parts and conferences not filling all their bowl bids.

First Responder and Armed Forces will probably be our best choice because we would likely get a decent bowl opponent and our attendance has been good in Texas. Hawaii would be an acceptable alternate, as would Birmingham, if it's a solid opponent. Idaho, New Mexico, Frisco, etc. would be better than nothing. It's too bad ESPN doesn't have a California bowl in its pool.

It's not pool, its bowls owned by ESPN which is different. Those other bowls have signed deals, but yes a couple bowls in Texas may be possible, although some of those are openned this year and you are still going to Hawaii.

Using your current record on tv

6 million ABC (2m a game)
8.4 million ESPN (1.2m)
8.1 million ESPN 2 (900k)
2.4 million ESPNU (600k)

For just over 4 million a year. So you need all 4 games on ABC to reach 8m but 4 games on espn is still about 5m, which is probably what the average will be as I assume no more than one game a year can be put on the U and you probably have at least one game worth an ABC slot a year in your upcoming schedule and probably two in 2021 and 2023 which will be your best paying years currently scheduled.

The Big 12 and AAC have ties to the AF bowl. Big 12 switches between AF and SERVPRO and the AAC split is between AF and Hawaii. Army plays in ESPN bowls in odd years...gotta figure AF is in that mix. The MWC bowl pool consists of Dallas area bowls so AF, SERVPRO and Frisco...at least this is how the arrangements are currently worded. Like everything they could be subject to change - lol