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Dimel is such a nice and caring guy. There’s rumors swirling around El Paso that Dimel is looking for a new OC and DC but will not announce the departure of Canales and Cox until they find jobs first. We have a gentleman coaching our team.
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(12-02-2019 03:41 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  Dimel is such a nice and caring guy. There’s rumors swirling around El Paso that Dimel is looking for a new OC and DC but will not announce the departure of Canales and Cox until they find jobs first. We have a gentleman coaching our team.

Irrelevant, but I feel really bad for UTEP.

You guys have always been my 2nd favorite overall CUSA program and times have just been rough on your fanbase for a long time with football and MBB being down. Hoping this is the year for UTEP MBB to return to give you guys some hope
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(12-02-2019 03:41 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  Dimel is such a nice and caring guy. There’s rumors swirling around El Paso that Dimel is looking for a new OC and DC but will not announce the departure of Canales and Cox until they find jobs first. We have a gentleman coaching our team.

What are the odds UTEP fires Dimel next season / what are the fanbase's expectations for next season? Realized earlier today that UTEP and Rice are now the only CUSA teams not to make a bowl in the last five years.
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I think the odds that Dimel is gone next year are very high. As bad as we were this year I think we will be worse next year. We don’t have a qb. Dimel squandered away the opportunity to evaluate our qbs of the future during the four games the ncaa allows. Instead opting to make sure our senior qb has life lasting memories as his time as an FBS qb. Our schedule is much tougher. At this time there’s no impact recruits we’re waiting for to arrive on campus. If we don’t beat NMSU in week 0 I can’t find any other wins. Many of us want to press the reset button now, but our AD seems committed to Dimel and his six year plan. Hopefully another 0-1 win season closes the book in this chapter.
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Dimel is a good guy, but it won't work out. For the life of me, I can't figure out how he was so successful at Wyoming. He's a coordinator, not a head coach.

Bring in someone who will install the triple option. Win some games and go to some bowls. Maybe that will help recruiting.
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(12-03-2019 01:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Bring in someone who will install the triple option.

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(12-03-2019 05:45 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Bring in someone who will install the triple option.

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(12-03-2019 05:50 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 05:45 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Bring in someone who will install the triple option.

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Agreed. No CUSA team runs the TO and it probably would cause fits. It would get more than 2 wins that's for damn sure
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We've learned that Dimel is loyal to players and coaches and stubborn about his FB philosophy. I am speculating on this but feel fairly confident that it is accurate and that is that the newish AD is getting nervous that he made a mistake with Dimel and has had his end of season talk with him, the result being that Dimel was likely told that next year's team is much better or you (Dimel) are done.

I think Dimel, like a lot of other coaches that think a 5 or 6 or 7 year plan means you can win 1 game a year for several seasons before expectations are raised, is learning that he was wrong about that. He is now grasping at straws by changing coordinators.
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(12-03-2019 10:44 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  We've learned that Dimel is loyal to players and coaches and stubborn about his FB philosophy. I am speculating on this but feel fairly confident that it is accurate and that is that the newish AD is getting nervous that he made a mistake with Dimel and has had his end of season talk with him, the result being that Dimel was likely told that next year's team is much better or you (Dimel) are done.

I think Dimel, like a lot of other coaches that think a 5 or 6 or 7 year plan means you can win 1 game a year for several seasons before expectations are raised, is learning that he was wrong about that. He is now grasping at straws by changing coordinators.

I have no idea what length of "plan' the Rice AD has with Bloomgren. But most of us fans are on a 2-4 year plan. I am on a 3 year plan with him. So far, he is behind schedule.
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How do you hire someone who gives you a "six-year" path to success? You don't. That's when you reply by saying "this interview is over."
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There's a reason Rutgers hired Shno for 8 years. Takes a long time for a complete rebuild.
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(12-03-2019 07:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 05:50 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 05:45 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Bring in someone who will install the triple option.

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Agreed. No CUSA team runs the TO and it probably would cause fits. It would get more than 2 wins that's for damn sure

Short term fix. UTEP don't need to go that route.
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(12-03-2019 12:04 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 07:42 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 05:50 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 05:45 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 01:21 AM)Ourland Wrote:  Bring in someone who will install the triple option.

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It wins everywhere else.
Agreed. No CUSA team runs the TO and it probably would cause fits. It would get more than 2 wins that's for damn sure

Short term fix. UTEP don't need to go that route.


Ehhh, trying to recruit kids that can pull off a scary TO is easier than most think. Get the right coach and you could have a decade of better than average at UTEP. There's a reason teams in hard situations run a TO variation like GS, Army, Navy, AF, CCU, GT.
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(12-03-2019 11:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There's a reason Rutgers hired Shno for 8 years. Takes a long time for a complete rebuild.

A good staff will do it in 4-5 years, and without juco and "portal" players. Schiano is a proven commodity in the college game, and Rutgers was desperate to get him back. In that environment, he can demand a long contract and good pay. He'll have Rutgers competitive again within two years, and back in a bowl relatively quickly.

On the other hand, Dimel is damaged goods from his stint at UH. He came to UTEP cheaply. You don't give anyone who has failed so badly before as a head coach six years to turn your program around. UTEP won't have a program in six years if they allow this to continue. They've got to find some money to pay a good coach, or nothing will change. Bad situation...
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(12-03-2019 12:14 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 11:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There's a reason Rutgers hired Shno for 8 years. Takes a long time for a complete rebuild.

A good staff will do it in 4-5 years, and without juco and "portal" players. Schiano is a proven commodity in the college game, and Rutgers was desperate to get him back. In that environment, he can demand a long contract and good pay. He'll have Rutgers competitive again within two years, and back in a bowl relatively quickly.

On the other hand, Dimel is damaged goods from his stint at UH. He came to UTEP cheaply. You don't give anyone who has failed so badly before as a head coach six years to turn your program around. UTEP won't have a program in six years if they allow this to continue. They've got to find some money to pay a good coach, or nothing will change. Bad situation...

Not sure if Rice fans are the right messengers on spending money in athletics and making good coaching hires.
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(12-03-2019 12:20 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 12:14 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(12-03-2019 11:45 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  There's a reason Rutgers hired Shno for 8 years. Takes a long time for a complete rebuild.

A good staff will do it in 4-5 years, and without juco and "portal" players. Schiano is a proven commodity in the college game, and Rutgers was desperate to get him back. In that environment, he can demand a long contract and good pay. He'll have Rutgers competitive again within two years, and back in a bowl relatively quickly.

On the other hand, Dimel is damaged goods from his stint at UH. He came to UTEP cheaply. You don't give anyone who has failed so badly before as a head coach six years to turn your program around. UTEP won't have a program in six years if they allow this to continue. They've got to find some money to pay a good coach, or nothing will change. Bad situation...

Not sure if Rice fans are the right messengers on spending money in athletics and making good coaching hires.

LOL! To the contrary, I think the fact that I'm a Rice fan uniquely qualifies me as the messenger on this. I've seen first-hand what not spending money on athletics can do to a program, and I've seen how a coach who installs the triple option can equal the playing field for a program with little talent.

And since we brought in Goldsmith in 1988, Rice really hasn't done badly at all with it's football coaching hires. The problem has always been mostly about a lack of caring and spending on the administration's part, as well as the stringent academic requirements. Goldsmith, Hatfield, Graham, and Bailiff were all moderately successful given the attitude toward athletics at Rice.
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