(12-02-2019 09:32 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:27 PM)deb025 Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 07:14 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-02-2019 03:10 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Desperation move, it will take time for a new offense and defense to take hold. Plus wasnt Littrell an offensive guru?

It doesn't have to take time. If Littrell and his new coordinators can be creative with the transfer portal and juco additions, we don't have to tank next season. Who we bring in for these coordinator positions will tell a lot about how serious UNT is about making sure 4-8 doesn't become the standard for us.

You already have 17 commitments for 2020. How heavy can you really go Juco and transfer wise? Are you going to release recruits from their commitments to go heavy Juco and Transfer. That's not building a program and will do further damage down the road. A new DC and OC will take time, don't fool yourself.

I have no interest in taking spots from recruits in this class. I really like this class. It is our best since the Dickey era. We could probably use grey shirts and blue shirts to acquire players from the transfer portal and Jucos.

It does look to be a solid class for y’all. Good high school recruiting and developing in house with a few juco and transfers mixed in is the way to do it. Even if it doesn’t pay off next year it will eventually, and then your program will get consistency. Don’t pull a Dykes.

How is the Strength and Conditioning Coach at UNT? Y’all had an unusually amount of injuries this year. Sometimes it’s just bad luck. Littrell might want to look at how the players are being conditioned.

The local reporter that covers Mean Green football, believes Mark Mangino may be Littrell's top candidate for our OC position.

https://dentonrc.com/sports/what-missing...743da.html

(12-03-2019 09:18 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  The local reporter that covers Mean Green football, believes Mark Mangino may be Littrell's top candidate for our OC position.

https://dentonrc.com/sports/what-missing...743da.html

Wow! That would be a big move! *snicker*

I think the decision Littrell most regrets is not overhauling the recruiting coordinators immediately after he was hired. He kept the old fart who was already hear to run recruiting and by all accounts he was awful and those first two years had very lack luster recruits. It's those recruits that should have been leading this team this season. By all accounts recruiting improved tremendously these past two seasons once he overhauled that position.

The previous 2 years can't be dismissed. UNT was good. Everyone expected Mason Fine to go out with a bang. I'm still kind of puzzled about how it fell apart.

Littrell has a huge task ahead of him in replacing Fine. If he can't do that, he'll be gone same time next year.

(12-04-2019 11:25 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  I'm still kind of puzzled about how it fell apart.

Graham Harrell left to be OC at USC.
#1 WR decided to declare for the draft.
#2 WR gets hurt in the second game.
We ended up missing our graduating tackles more than most expected.
A lot of different injuries on the offense and defense, including Fine.

Very disappointing year.

Getting rid of both coordinators gives a lot of fans hope, mainly because it shows the HC and AD aren't going to screw around, they both want to succeed now.

SL's first two years of recruiting were not that great, outside of hitting the lotto on Fine. His next two have been much better, hopefully that shows up on the field soon, but always very difficult to replace someone like Fine.

Recruiting is not about ranking and more so about finding players that fit the system you want to run. Some system might take a smaller quicker player that is a sure tackler. Those players dont show up in the rating. Some defensive thrive on stopping the run first and need big bodies. Unless you are recruiting at the top you dont know what you are getting when it comes to recruiting rankings...

a ton of these 3 and 4 star kids are just bigger and quicker than the kids they go up against in HS. A lot of ranking are based on that. Once they get to college...most everyone is just as big or as quick or as strong after a year or so.

Those coaches that know how to find the players to fit their system... wins more often. Changing up systems can mean those players you already recruited. Might not fit. The one thing not in the rankings..heart and the willingness to work to get better and we all depend on finding enough of those kids

Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

Imho, they werent the problem.

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

The kid flipped after he got an offer from Flordia State. Their isn't a qb recruit in C-USA that wouldn't flip to sign with a program like Florida State, regardless of their current situation.

TrollRodge,

You don't even have a program. You just troll North Texas. It's kind of sad.

(12-07-2019 12:14 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  Imho, they werent the problem.

I'd like to know your opinion.

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

(12-07-2019 01:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

I feel kinda bad for UNT. It's got to be tough to hold your recruiting class together right now when they don't even know who their OC or DC will be. Especially if you need BOTH. And since Littrell didn't hire a new OC or DC immediately after the firings, that tells you Littrell didn't really have anyone in mind when he fired the others. So, he's still got to go through the whole hiring process, which means he can't be tending to other business (like recruiting). It's just a real shat show in Denton right now.

(12-07-2019 01:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 01:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

I feel kinda bad for UNT. It's got to be tough to hold your recruiting class together right now when they don't even know who their OC or DC will be. Especially if you need BOTH. And since Littrell didn't hire a new OC or DC immediately after the firings, that tells you Littrell didn't really have anyone in mind when he fired the others. So, he's still got to go through the whole hiring process, which means he can't be tending to other business (like recruiting). It's just a real shat show in Denton right now.

Ha! You wish. You know as well as I that coaching positions at state universities are required to post openings for a period of time and evaluate multiple applicants, before they can officially extend a job offer. I'm fairly confident inquires by potential candidates were being made even before Littrell pulled the trigger and fired both coordinators.

You can try to spin our situation as gloom and doom, but that situation appears to have ended when the final whistle blew against UAB. Our administration is working to fix that problem, and it will only be a "Shat Show" if we fail to hire high quality coordinators. As long as UNT continues to build, invest, and grow, we will be just fine.

(12-07-2019 12:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  TrollRodge,

You don't even have a program. You just troll North Texas. It's kind of sad.

This is the biggest truth in this entire thread. I don't know what NT did to this guy to make him an enemy. But, it's been like that ever since his namesake left NT.

https://www.gomeangreen.com/forums/profi...odgerodge/

(12-07-2019 01:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-06-2019 11:26 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-05-2019 08:55 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Littrell and the remainder of his staff have been making the rounds with our recruits. It appears the recruits are still excited about signing with the Mean Green despite the staff shake up. Makes me wonder if Littrell already knows who will be talking over as offensive and defensive coordinators, and he is selling those coaches to the 2020 class. If so, they must be fairly good, because our class seems motivated to sign.

this makes no sense because with the exception of one player all the other recruits for north Texas state have been committed since at least 3 months ago

https://247sports.com/college/north-texa...l/Commits/

it would be hard to imagine that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell knew he was going to fire two coordinators over 3 months ago and who was going to replace them

these firings and the potential replacements have little effect on this recruiting class so far based on what one sees with the recruits

and a number of them should be motivated to sign with north Texas state if they want a D1-A offer at all, a D1-A offer from a program that has not just fired their coach, D1-A offer from a program will probably fire their coach next year without a lot of improvement, or a D1-A offer from a place that might have their coach hired away

It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

Maybe not....

Renfro decommitted from UNT on Nov. 27th after Florida State offered. And he made his official visit to FSU yesterday. But, Renfro has yet to commit to Florida State. In fact he has scheduled an official visit at North Texas for this coming Friday (Friday 13th). Maybe he didn't enjoy Tallahassee so much. He may end up at UNT after all.

(12-07-2019 02:37 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 01:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 01:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 11:51 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  It isn't rocket science. Yes, these recruits have been committed for a long time, but the staff they committed to is undergoing a change. These kids have other offers, many hold offers from other C-USA programs. Littrell and the staff is out there ensuring them they still want to be a part of where North Texas is going.

it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

I feel kinda bad for UNT. It's got to be tough to hold your recruiting class together right now when they don't even know who their OC or DC will be. Especially if you need BOTH. And since Littrell didn't hire a new OC or DC immediately after the firings, that tells you Littrell didn't really have anyone in mind when he fired the others. So, he's still got to go through the whole hiring process, which means he can't be tending to other business (like recruiting). It's just a real shat show in Denton right now.

Ha! You wish. You know as well as I that coaching positions at state universities are required to post openings for a period of time and evaluate multiple applicants, before they can officially extend a job offer. I'm fairly confident inquires by potential candidates were being made even before Littrell pulled the trigger and fired both coordinators.

You can try to spin our situation as gloom and doom, but that situation appears to have ended when the final whistle blew against UAB. Our administration is working to fix that problem, and it will only be a "Shat Show" if we fail to hire high quality coordinators. As long as UNT continues to build, invest, and grow, we will be just fine.

Blah, blah, blah. You've been "fairly confident" of a lot of things that just don't pan out.

(12-07-2019 04:21 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 02:37 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 01:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 01:20 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(12-07-2019 12:19 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  it is not really rocket science to see that he is not really selling much of anything to recruits that were committed long before anyone had any idea that both coordinators would be fired

not to mention that north Texas state has lost their biggest commit since the time it was clear that one or both coordinators might be fired

and that commit is said to be looking at a program that fired their head coach early on and has no clue who they will hire to replace him and another program that could have their head coach hired away this year or next

so trying to say that Littrell Seth Seth Littrell is going around firing up recruits with POTENTIAL coordinator replacements when those recruits have been committed for months and a number of them have few if any D1-A offers or very limited D1-A offers just seems like nonsense

all the more so when the biggest recruit de-committed just recently (so was clearly not sold on the hype of any potential coordinators) while having no qualms with looking at a program that has no clue what their coaching staff will be and another place that could lose theirs in the near future

Thanks for the update Todge, That makes most sense, and you are right most have few FBS offers anyway.

Interesting to see North Texas lose their biggest recruit.

I feel kinda bad for UNT. It's got to be tough to hold your recruiting class together right now when they don't even know who their OC or DC will be. Especially if you need BOTH. And since Littrell didn't hire a new OC or DC immediately after the firings, that tells you Littrell didn't really have anyone in mind when he fired the others. So, he's still got to go through the whole hiring process, which means he can't be tending to other business (like recruiting). It's just a real shat show in Denton right now.

Ha! You wish. You know as well as I that coaching positions at state universities are required to post openings for a period of time and evaluate multiple applicants, before they can officially extend a job offer. I'm fairly confident inquires by potential candidates were being made even before Littrell pulled the trigger and fired both coordinators.

You can try to spin our situation as gloom and doom, but that situation appears to have ended when the final whistle blew against UAB. Our administration is working to fix that problem, and it will only be a "Shat Show" if we fail to hire high quality coordinators. As long as UNT continues to build, invest, and grow, we will be just fine.

Blah, blah, blah. You've been "fairly confident" of a lot of things that just don't pan out.