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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
I wish some would hold firm on this stuff. I'd rather a few racists be out there or have a few well known figures out there who did/are doing something wrong in past than have every name and institution I've known come under attack for its name.
I'm African American by the way. I'd rather they go after Ole Miss' mascot or the Cleveland Indians big racist logo and name (long overdue) than GW's, I mean come on. Everyone wants to take the conformity out of everything.
(This post was last modified: 12-05-2019 05:51 PM by C2__.)
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There’s a war underway in America and the divide is getting wider everyday. Continued attacks on the 2nd Amendment just might be the tipping point. At some point, citizens simply will not comply
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
(12-02-2019 05:57 PM)Mav Wrote: (12-02-2019 04:03 PM)Gamecock Wrote: South Carolina actually played them yesterday and I was texting a buddy about this. Why are they even called Colonials? Patriots or Generals makes a lot more sense.
Do you really think either would be received any better?
I must have missed all those people protesting the New England Patriots name
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
What’s the difference between colonist and colonial? If the argument is a colonial is a member of the colonial army that fought against the Queen, then why is it bad?
A colonist reminds me more of a bee or one of the characters in Aliens than some racist, village pillaging, land raping terror.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
(12-05-2019 10:30 PM)esayem Wrote: What’s the difference between colonist and colonial? If the argument is a colonial is a member of the colonial army that fought against the Queen, then why is it bad?
King (George III).
I'll admit it is less offensive than naming a sports team after a bloody skin cut off a dead Native American's body to prove the bounty claim, so I'm glad the Miami U Hockey team changed the name of their mascot.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
I knew somebody would correct me
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
(12-03-2019 10:51 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (12-02-2019 10:33 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: It's a slippery slope. Community College of Philadelphia dropped the Colonial name last year. When 75% of your student body identifies as a minority, that's not really SJW.
Irreverence is what it is. If you hate what these hippies do, well, they hate how you idolize these other things.
I mean, if you want to retain homage to some of this stuff without the triggers, Blue Coats, Generals, Presidents, Commanders...or is nothing safe?
Why would Colonials offend anyone, what is offensive about it. Also Philly is likely majority black so they are not minorities there.
Schools may embrace even a slight challenge as a call for rebranding. CCP has something over 20K active students per year, and the petition that called to change the mascot only got like a few hundred signatures a few years ago. And, according this article, it wasn't really controversial. It may have been nobody even cared about the name?
Personally, I thought Colonial Phil looked creepy, and kinda thuggish. For a city with an education and violence problem, having a mascot who looked like he could have come from the streets and would be packing 18th-century-style heat wouldn't be something I would be proud of. Maybe that doofy-looking mascot triggered some people enough to say something; the Colonial had served as CCP's mascot since the school opened in the 60's. Maybe had it gone down a different path by embracing Ben Franklin or any generic race-neutral founding father-looking thing and this doesn't happen?
They're now the Lions. It's late to the party, but, I think it was cool that CCP at least embraced the mint building it inhabited some decades back.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
(12-06-2019 12:27 AM)BruceMcF Wrote: (12-05-2019 10:30 PM)esayem Wrote: What’s the difference between colonist and colonial? If the argument is a colonial is a member of the colonial army that fought against the Queen, then why is it bad?
King (George III).
I'll admit it is less offensive than naming a sports team after a bloody skin cut off a dead Native American's body to prove the bounty claim, so I'm glad the Miami U Hockey team changed the name of their mascot.
Colonials is just another way of saying Colonists. It was widely used to refer to the Americans (not just the soldiers) in the 18th century.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
Crazy exists on both sides of the spectrum. I don't think of this as snowflake stuff. It's just plain dumb. I mean, really, you want to be associated with this very prestigious institution, but, what...when did it occur to people this school was named after a guy with some issues of his own with regard to racial relations and plantation and slave ownership, and then a name that could further evoke such negative vibes. This is a private school, right?
Like, seriously...suck it up.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
Two choices:
Warriors of Social Justice
No Mascot
Name will be chosen by students who neither attend games nor will donate to the school after graduation, as they will be in low paying occupations and saddled with student loans (hence their anger).
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
Washington was a Freemason so just call them "Masons." Works for mens and womens teams. Plus there is this logo. Conspiracy theories in 3...2...
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
Umm, are you supposed to post that? Anyways, knowing history, it's easy to see where this is going. Rather than a unique and distinct nickname they'll settle on [insert overused animal mascot].
The End
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BearcatJerry
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
Let's face it... Basketball is a sport; sports are BAD because they are nothing more than ritualized combat and they create "losers." Besides which, we know that sports also further and perpetuate racial stereotypes. And "scholarship"/varsity sports are EXCLUSIONARY; not everyone gets to play.
Ergo, George Washington University should abandon sports.
Problem solved.
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RE: George Washington...Colonials??
(12-06-2019 10:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote: Let's face it... Basketball is a sport; sports are BAD because they are nothing more than ritualized combat and they create "losers." Besides which, we know that sports also further and perpetuate racial stereotypes. And "scholarship"/varsity sports are EXCLUSIONARY; not everyone gets to play.
Ergo, George Washington University should abandon sports.
Problem solved.
There are some on the far left who want sports de-emphasized citing toxic masculinity.
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