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RE: So.Miss and Marshall to the Sun Belt
(11-27-2019 11:27 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Let me get this straight, a USM fan starts a thread about leaving C-USA for the Sun Belt because your conference mates just don't measure up to your lofty standards, and when the fans you are dogging say don't let the door hit you on your way out you get your feelings hurt.

You need to find a way to enjoy this conference because you can't scrape together the fees required to go somewhere else.

The SBC and CUSA created the Exit and Entrance Fees to prevent schools from bolting to each other on their own.

If USM ever really wanted out bad enough, I am quite confident both leagues would very quickly agree to proposals to waive portions of the fees.
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clt is laughing.
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The Sun Belt has already surpassed CUSA so if we can get USM and Marshal y'all would be sunk. Markets....lol.
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RE: So.Miss and Marshall to the Sun Belt
(11-27-2019 11:34 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 11:27 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  Let me get this straight, a USM fan starts a thread about leaving C-USA for the Sun Belt because your conference mates just don't measure up to your lofty standards, and when the fans you are dogging say don't let the door hit you on your way out you get your feelings hurt.

You need to find a way to enjoy this conference because you can't scrape together the fees required to go somewhere else.

Lol my feelings ain't hurt at all. You know and I know history matters in college football despite what that WKU fan wants to admit and Marshall and So. Miss leads the way when it comes to that 04-cheers

Dusty old record books. Yup, you lead the way there. Your history doesn't mean anything and it's time to wake up from the dreamworld where you think it does. You had some 100+ years to make your program relevant enough to get into what we currently call the P5 and it didn't happen. Either embrace the G5 life or find a P5 to love because you won't find happiness in the Sun Belt or CUSA otherwise.
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RE: So.Miss and Marshall to the Sun Belt
Doesn't Southern Miss have one of the lowest budgets in CUSA? I really don't think it gets better for USM in the Sun Belt.

Marshall is a great program. Exactly what I want to be in a conference with. There are a number of schools in CUSA that I consider to be a really good fit with WKU. Marshall, MTSU, La Tech, ODU.

The TX schools are not really good fits geographically but I have respect for all of them in one way or another. Rice for academics, North Texas because of some of the games we had back in the Sun Belt, UTEP for their basketball tradition and fan support. UTSA has maybe more potential in football than any other program in CUSA.

FAU has come a LONG way in football. Charlotte had some good hoops back in the day. Hope they can get back there.

I think CUSA missed the boat on Appalachian State. But I like a bunch of the schools we have.
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(11-27-2019 11:36 PM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  clt is laughing.

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Of course history matters. That's why every school in the Sun Belt would sprint to open the door for USM or Marshall. With the right motivation those schools would be scary good. I see a lot of big talk about potential at certain schools. Potential is History's retarded step brother. You can brag about either, but only one really matters
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RE: So.Miss and Marshall to the Sun Belt
(11-27-2019 11:42 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  Doesn't Southern Miss have one of the lowest budgets in CUSA? I really don't think it gets better for USM in the Sun Belt.

Marshall is a great program. Exactly what I want to be in a conference with. There are a number of schools in CUSA that I consider to be a really good fit with WKU. Marshall, MTSU, La Tech, ODU.

The TX schools are not really good fits geographically but I have respect for all of them in one way or another. Rice for academics, North Texas because of some of the games we had back in the Sun Belt, UTEP for their basketball tradition and fan support. UTSA has maybe more potential in football than any other program in CUSA.

FAU has come a LONG way in football. Charlotte had some good hoops back in the day. Hope they can get back there.

I think CUSA missed the boat on Appalachian State. But I like a bunch of the schools we have.

You realize your header still says "Sun Belt Nationalist"? Good god that was a terrible marketing ploy.
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(11-27-2019 11:46 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Of course history matters. That's why every school in the Sun Belt would sprint to open the door for USM or Marshall. With the right motivation those schools would be scary good. I see a lot of big talk about potential at certain schools. Potential is History's retarded step brother. You can brag about either, but only one really matters

Spot on brother. You said it way better than I could have ever said it.
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The truth is I would love to see CUSA do well. I want to see WKU, Charlotte and all the other schools do well. However, CUSA has killed what once was a good football program. Of course we didn't do ourselves any favors by hiring Ellis Johnson.

Conference USA 1996-2004 close to becoming what the AAC is now. So. Miss, Louisville, East Carolina and TCU were all apart of that. Louisville, TCU and Cincinnati leave. Louisville and Southern Miss had been football playing rivals for years, TCU and So. Miss had developed a good rivalry and to a lesser degree So. Miss and Cincinnati.

We replaced them with SMU, Tulsa, Marshall but come the next round of realignment we lose even more LONG Time Rivals meaning back to the 60s and 70s and in the case of Memphis 30s... Entire generations of So. Miss fans grew up with us playing these teams and in the blink of and eye it was gone. And since then our attendance is down. Most of our older fans don't even know how to find us on ESPN +... Our old rivals are on ESPN, ESPN 2 or ESPN every weekend now. Yeah it sucks watching that

We don't have much history with anyone In this league but Marshall and La Tech. But that La Tech rivalry was doormat between 91-2010.. Most younger So. Miss fans had never knew about the Rivalry in Dixie.


I'm sorry for being a jerk... But I wanna see our fans get interested in So. Miss Football again. And being apart of this conference isn't doing it. And leadership in this conference is Not doing its part to help it get better for any of us.
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(11-27-2019 11:30 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 11:21 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 09:59 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 09:19 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(11-27-2019 08:38 PM)Dusky Wrote:  I’d love for someone to explain to me how you consider yourself a “flagship” when you’ve won the conference once in 15 years.

You are forgetting they beat Bama way back when. Also how they are the #1 draw in CUSA...yet Western has more tier 1 and tier2 TV games than any school in CUSA. More than twice the amount as USM. I forgot...before Thanksgiving is over one of them will tell you about their fan support. Then a visiting fan goes to Sr day in prefect weather with USM fighting for #1 in the west...

there might be 12k actual fans in the stands. Might be, but probably even less.

You would think flagship mean you are picked for TV games. And at least a little more than just competitive. Up till 3 years ago they were blaming all their problems on FAU and FIU and UNCC...

two have passed them up and UNCC is getting ready to. All 3 did not have a football program 15 years ago. Now its UTEP and ODU

STFU and stop being a b! Tch lol.... You talk about Envy? Just about every post on here your bashing So.Miss. Your damn right we brag about our History. Atleast we have history. WKU got history in D1AA. Congratulations... Yeah WKU is 3-0 against So. Miss congratulations! I'm happy for you. You wanna cookie?!

So. Miss and Marshall were once a dominate force in our conferences. Back when this conference was a GOOD G5 conference. This conference has essentially killed our program. All the programs outside of La Tech and Marshall we used to play and have history with are gone.

Our older fanbase don't have any interest in playing Western Kentucky. I know that Western Kentucky has a good football history. Most of our fan base don't.

The difference between So. Miss and Marshall fans and WKU fans is this. We HAVE history in FBS football. You have history in FCS football. Conference USA in its current format is the Best Thing to EVER Happen to WKU Football Charlotte, FIU or FAU football. The same current format is sh! T compared to what So. Miss and Marshall fans are use to playing in.

So. Miss and Marshall use to play in front of National TV now we're stuck streaming on ESPN +.. You damn right we're not happy about being in this conference.

When was USM and Marshall a dominate force in our conference? In the last 20 years of play USM and Marshall has 1 more conference championship than Western...that's combined. In the past 20 years USM has finished in the top 25, ONCE, same as Western. Marshall twice. Again you need to go back to when a lot of you USM fans were in diapers. Everything you said is "use to". Hell Western was once a top 10 national program in basketball. Yes NATIONAL, unlike you USM fans that believe you were once a national program. You wasnt anything more than a good little team that got all of the SEC rejects when there wasnt many FBS programs playing in the south.

As I said you would think if USM was as good of a program as you and other USM fans seem to think. Whatever TV deal CUSA has and had over the past 5 years....

USM WOULD be top choice for those tier 1 games. Guess what, you're not. This little team with no history has played twice as many TV games as USM.

As for USM fans not caring about Western and that's the reason they did not show up. You and I both know that is bullcrap. Those fans remember the ass kicking USM took in the championship game. But that's the same excuse most USM fans use. Yet the box score attendance for games against the eastern schools are higher than the west schools USM plays at home.


There always has to be someone else stopping USM from being back to the good old days. Well first off your good ole days are long gone and been gone for 20+ years. And the only one to blame is USM.


Why would I have any envy for USM? Hell in the short time Western has been in the FBS. Western has long ago passed anything USM has done in the last 20+ years. Including 3 totally ass kicking in head to head games. Hell Western beat you so bad USM players were dropping like flies in all 3 games. Game number 1 Western put 2 USM qb's out with in 5 minutes. Game number 2...8 out of 12 players a USM player dropped. Game number 3...knowed another qb out and a few more players.

No wonder you want to move to the SBC....
Lol you feel better that you got that off your chest son?

You and I both know what I said is 100% true. To be honest I'm sorry I let your pity party pull me into this crap because there's a lot of USM fans on this board that I do like and putting facts out there is not enjoyable to me.

I dont dislike USM, hell USM is not even a rival of Western. You have to win a couple games before that can happen and the way it looks...that is a long time off 05-stirthepot But I'm the kind of person that hates, well not hates, but dislike people that are always complaining ablout something. Then trying to blame others for their shortcomings. So I tend to point out the facts to those people. But other than that I like a school that has a history in any sport and does more with less. History is important...just not in the way you and a few other USM fans think it is. Every year USM lets past without winning it's even less important in the context you believe.
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(11-27-2019 07:58 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  So.Miss fans have been wanting to leave CUSA since all the ordinal teams moved on. Would much rather play other regional rivals like Louisiana Lafayette and Troy rather than Old Dominion and UTEP no offense to those programs. If I'm not mistaken Marshall and App State and Marshall and Ga Southern have history from their D1-AA days.

https://www.journalnow.com/sports/colleg...c849b.html

ODU and UTEP is more comparable to Coastal and Tx State, but enjoy. I hope the grass is greener for you all on the other side, but I doubt it is. If you believe ULL and Troy are better rivalries than La Tech and UAB, go for it.
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Here's how I see it: if teams want to swap C-USA for SBC - they should do it. No one holds them here. We will, certainly, miss history and traditions of Marshall and USM. But, chances are, this is just talk. Nothing is going to happen.
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(11-27-2019 11:46 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Of course history matters. That's why every school in the Sun Belt would sprint to open the door for USM or Marshall. With the right motivation those schools would be scary good. I see a lot of big talk about potential at certain schools. Potential is History's retarded step brother. You can brag about either, but only one really matters

History is important to fans but unless you build on it it's meaningless in the context USM bring it up in. When you let 20, 30, 40 years go by and not build on it or advance the program it's just that...HISTORY.

If history, in the context talked about by USM was that important. Western's basketball program's history was right up with uk, Duke, UNC, UofL and other bluebloods. Guess what...Western failed to build on it and now the program is looked on just the same as USM, Middle, ODU's and the rest of the G5 conference members...

14 out of 23 years Western was in the top 20, with 3 top 3, a top 7 and a top 5, along with a top 10,11,12, 15. It's meaningless today...other than to Western fans.
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Its hard to build a conference and rivalries when you may not play some teams in your conference for years. If we can’t split into two conference (my preference), its may be time to get creative.

One solution is add two teams and go to sixteen, split into four clusters and have a floating conference. Cluster A,B,C & D. “A” plays the three teams in their cluster every year, plus “B” and 1/2 of “C” one year. And Then the next year “A” would play The teams in their cluster plus “D” and the other 1/2 of “C”. The other clusters would follow suite. That way every team in the conference would play 9 conference games per year and in a two year period every team in CUSA will have played each other at least once. To satisfy NCAA we reset the conference division each year.

Some will say but we would have to slit the TV revenue by 16 instead of by 14. An old saying says “nothing from nothing leaves nothing you got to have something if you want me”.

The next question is which two teams would like to add?
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You poor babies. I'm so sorry that you guys feel you need to pack up and head to the Sunbelt. Come here and let me give you a hug, precious.
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It’s like the loser at the ball court who can’t ever win a game and just takes his ball and goes home. Sorry you suck to much to win here.
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(11-27-2019 11:41 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  The Sun Belt has already surpassed CUSA so if we can get USM and Marshal y'all would be sunk. Markets....lol.

All the belt has is App State, without them you’re irrelevant. Also don’t get too comfortable, when the tides changes as they always do you’ll be the one stuck with a raging Madeagle.
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clt says Charlotte has broken marshal
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I always wonder if Marshall wouldn't be better off in the MAC. Wouldn't mind seeing Marshall as the 12th AAC team either but doubt it will happen.
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