1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: Clemson
2. Capital One Orange Bowl: Notre Dame

First Tier
Camping World Bowl vs. Big 12: Virginia Tech (VT would *HAVE* to be selected by win rule if available and they beat UVA)
Citrus Bowl (if top possible team is higher-ranked than SEC or Big Ten team) vs. SEC or Big Ten: No higher ranked ACC team available
Belk Bowl vs. SEC: North Carolina
Hyundai Sun Bowl vs. Pac-12: Virginia
New Era Pinstripe Bowl vs. Big Ten: Pittsburgh

IF FSU beats UF: TaxSlayer Bowl vs SEC: FSU
IF NOT: Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl vs. SEC: UofL
(ACC and Big Ten combine in the Music City and TaxSlayer, with each getting three appearances in six years. The ACC played in the Music City in 2015 and the TaxSlayer in 2016, 2017 & 2018. It’s almost certainly going to be in the Music City, but can still play in the TaxSlayer.)

Second Tier
Walk-On’s Independence Bowl vs. SEC: FSU/UofL (see above)
Military Bowl vs. American Athletic: Miami
Quick Lane Bowl vs. Big Ten: Wake Forest

– Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl: No ACC teams available
Conditional if American Athletic or Conference USA can’t fill the spot.
– Birmingham Bowl: No ACC teams available
Conditional if American Athletic or SEC can’t fill the spot.



Assumptions: VT over UVA, UNC over NCST, if FSU beats UF the TaxSlayer does whatever necessary to grab FSU.

The one win rule actually does little to provide sanity given the glut of mediocre teams in the standings with 3-5 ACC wins. There is tremendous volatility after the top 3-4 bowls. It's possible (and I'm taking a stab in the dark at predicting) for clearly not-as-good teams like UNC to rocket all the way up to the Belk and for clearly better-than-most teams like Wake to drop off a cliff to the very bottom.

A couple of thoughts.

(11-26-2019 04:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: Clemson
2. Capital One Orange Bowl: Notre Dame

I've read on here multiple times recently is that the Orange is required to take an ACC team and Notre Dame could be the ACC team's opponent, but they cannot replace the ACC. I do fully expect the Irish to take the Camping World spot.

(11-26-2019 04:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  IF FSU beats UF: TaxSlayer Bowl vs SEC: FSU
IF NOT: Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl vs. SEC: UofL
(ACC and Big Ten combine in the Music City and TaxSlayer, with each getting three appearances in six years. The ACC played in the Music City in 2015 and the TaxSlayer in 2016, 2017 & 2018. It’s almost certainly going to be in the Music City, but can still play in the TaxSlayer.)

The above clause would seem to indicate that the Music City is required to take an ACC team this year and in 2020, otherwise the agreement for they and the TaxSlayer to each have an ACC team three times from 1015-2020 isn't upheld. Just about every bowl projection I've seen has had the ACC in Nashville as well.

(11-26-2019 04:14 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  The one win rule actually does little to provide sanity given the glut of mediocre teams in the standings with 3-5 ACC wins. There is tremendous volatility after the top 3-4 bowls. It's possible (and I'm taking a stab in the dark at predicting) for clearly not-as-good teams like UNC to rocket all the way up to the Belk and for clearly better-than-most teams like Wake to drop off a cliff to the very bottom.

Am I correct that the one-win rule only applies to conference games (meaning a bowl could take anyone they choose at 4-4 over a 5-3, or take a 3-5 over a 4-4)?

I think Louisville will end up in Nashville, but we'll see.

ND can not be in this year's OB. They have to finish ahead of the B10 and SEC's schools that place into the NY 6 for that to happen.

CBS Sports said ND is eligible for all ACC bowls (go google it). I'll revise to say instead:


1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: Clemson
2. Capital One Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech

First Tier
Camping World Bowl vs. Big 12: Notre Dame
Citrus Bowl (if top possible team is higher-ranked than SEC or Big Ten team) vs. SEC or Big Ten: No higher ranked ACC team available
Belk Bowl vs. SEC: North Carolina
Hyundai Sun Bowl vs. Pac-12: Virginia
New Era Pinstripe Bowl vs. Big Ten: Pittsburgh

IF FSU beats UF: TaxSlayer Bowl vs SEC: FSU
IF NOT: Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl vs. SEC: UofL
(ACC and Big Ten combine in the Music City and TaxSlayer, with each getting three appearances in six years. The ACC played in the Music City in 2015 and the TaxSlayer in 2016, 2017 & 2018. It’s almost certainly going to be in the Music City, but can still play in the TaxSlayer.)

Second Tier
Walk-On’s Independence Bowl vs. SEC: FSU/UofL (see above)
Military Bowl vs. American Athletic: Miami
Quick Lane Bowl vs. Big Ten: Wake Forest

– Bad Boy Mowers Gasparilla Bowl: No ACC teams available
Conditional if American Athletic or Conference USA can’t fill the spot.
– Birmingham Bowl: No ACC teams available
Conditional if American Athletic or SEC can’t fill the spot.



Assumptions: VT over UVA, UNC over NCST, if FSU beats UF the TaxSlayer does whatever necessary to grab FSU.

The one win rule actually does little to provide sanity given the glut of mediocre teams in the standings with 3-5 ACC wins. There is tremendous volatility after the top 3-4 bowls. It's possible (and I'm taking a stab in the dark at predicting) for clearly not-as-good teams like UNC to rocket all the way up to the Belk and for clearly better-than-most teams like Wake to drop off a cliff to the very bottom.

CBS is dumb as bat ****.

They do not get the ACC spot in the Orange Bowl. They can play an ACC team in the OB if they are not in the playoff and the SEC/B10 does not fill the slot.

For that to happen this year, ND has to win out at 10-2
Auburn has to give Bama a second loss
Baylor has to beat OU to give them a second loss.

Your playoff is LSU,OSU,Clemson, and Baylor

Rose is Utah and the best of Minn or PSU (assuming a Michigan loss to OSU)
Sugar is Oklahoma versus Georgia the SEC east Champ.

Now the Orange comes down to Bama at 10-2 or ND at 10-2, ND represents a rematch of VT or UVa. And at 10-2 Bama will be in the Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, or Fiesta Bowl.

It's hard for ND to thread that needle.

It's the GATOR BOWL!!!

(11-26-2019 06:04 PM)Statefan Wrote:  CBS is dumb as bat ****.

They do not get the ACC spot in the Orange Bowl. They can play an ACC team in the OB if they are not in the playoff and the SEC/B10 does not fill the slot.

For that to happen this year, ND has to win out at 10-2
Auburn has to give Bama a second loss
Baylor has to beat OU to give them a second loss.

Your playoff is LSU,OSU,Clemson, and Baylor

Rose is Utah and the best of Minn or PSU (assuming a Michigan loss to OSU)
Sugar is Oklahoma versus Georgia the SEC east Champ.

Now the Orange comes down to Bama at 10-2 or ND at 10-2, ND represents a rematch of VT or UVa. And at 10-2 Bama will be in the Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, or Fiesta Bowl.

It's hard for ND to thread that needle.

I don't believe there is a formula for us to get the Citrus bowl either. If a B1G team is in the Orange, the ACC puts a team in the Citrus vs. SEC.

(11-26-2019 10:44 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(11-26-2019 06:04 PM)Statefan Wrote:  CBS is dumb as bat ****.

They do not get the ACC spot in the Orange Bowl. They can play an ACC team in the OB if they are not in the playoff and the SEC/B10 does not fill the slot.

For that to happen this year, ND has to win out at 10-2
Auburn has to give Bama a second loss
Baylor has to beat OU to give them a second loss.

Your playoff is LSU,OSU,Clemson, and Baylor

Rose is Utah and the best of Minn or PSU (assuming a Michigan loss to OSU)
Sugar is Oklahoma versus Georgia the SEC east Champ.

Now the Orange comes down to Bama at 10-2 or ND at 10-2, ND represents a rematch of VT or UVa. And at 10-2 Bama will be in the Orange Bowl, Cotton Bowl, or Fiesta Bowl.

It's hard for ND to thread that needle.

I don't believe there is a formula for us to get the Citrus bowl either. If a B1G team is in the Orange, the ACC puts a team in the Citrus vs. SEC.

Sure there is: Minnesota, Penn State and Ohio State all win this week (while Alabama loses to Auburn), then if you want to be REAL sure have the Gophers win the B1G CCG... one team goes to the Rose Bowl, at MOST one to the playoffs, and the 3rd to the Orange Bowl.

If Michigan pulls the upset, they’ll be NY6. The committee is setting that up by placing Ohio State at #1.

I’m hoping OSU beats the brakes off them.

Here's the projection from Joe Giglio, who says "The CFP rankings are out, my bowl sources are in."

Joe Giglio Twitter

He has Tech in the Orange, the Irish in the Citrus, and UofL in the Camping World. That would be about the best scenario for the ACC in regards to the league earning higher bowl pay-outs.

If UVa wins, does that mean VaTech to RV Bowl?

Louisville to The Bowl Soon To Be Formally Known As The Belk Bowl?

I’d rather the Heels go to the Sun Bowl and at least make an experience out of it for the players.

If I was a betting man, I would say the Music City Bowl will invite either Louisville or Kentucky. Probably the winner this week gets the invite.

(11-27-2019 11:30 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Here's the projection from Joe Giglio, who says "The CFP rankings are out, my bowl sources are in."

Joe Giglio Twitter

He has Tech in the Orange, the Irish in the Citrus, and UofL in the Camping World. That would be about the best scenario for the ACC in regards to the league earning higher bowl pay-outs.

Notre Dame picked the wrong year to lose to Michigan.

(11-27-2019 01:00 PM)esayem Wrote:  If UVa wins, does that mean VaTech to RV Bowl?

Louisville to The Bowl Soon To Be Formally Known As The Belk Bowl?

I’d rather the Heels go to the Sun Bowl and at least make an experience out of it for the players.

Thanks but no thanks... The Belk Bowl is boring. I would rather have The Camping World over The Belk and it’s played in a bombed out war zone.

Personally I would prefer The Music City Bowl.... The Banjo Bowl is close and entertainment is off the charts.

My point is, where does Louisville get bumped to if VaTech loses? Because VaTech will surely get the RV Bowl if that happens. Music City is a good guess. Great fun for fans, could be rainy cold weather, but nothing a little bourbon jacket won’t fix.

(11-28-2019 10:38 AM)esayem Wrote:  My point is, where does Louisville get bumped to if VaTech loses? Because VaTech will surely get the RV Bowl if that happens. Music City is a good guess. Great fun for fans, could be rainy cold weather, but nothing a little bourbon jacket won’t fix.

That’s a good point...lol
Spent a cold day there a few years ago when we played Texas A&M.

When y’all beat NC State this week, baring an upset, where do you expect
your Tarheels to go?

I am profoundly shocked that Belk wants Wake over UNC if Joe is correct. The Belk Bowl is damn near the UNC Invitational. And they almost never take outside the state of NC if UNC isn't available. The Belk Bowl preferences as currently run:

1) UNC
2) NC State
3) Wake/Duke
4) Clemson
5) Virginia Tech
6) Virginia


... they've never had to pick further down than that before.

(11-28-2019 11:55 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I am profoundly shocked that Belk wants Wake over UNC if Joe is correct. The Belk Bowl is damn near the UNC Invitational.

Joe mentioned that his predictions are premised on UNC not being available for selection by any 1st tier bowls due to the 2 win rule.