(11-21-2019 11:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 10:37 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 10:30 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)Springboromark Wrote:  I thought Bradley would by now come into his own. Right now he maybe the most overrated QB UT ever recruited.

Please, the guy is a Freshman with little game experience playing behind a mediocre line with
a relatively new receiving corp. Not like Cody, Jon'Vea, Diontae are running the routes.

Bradley probably has the highest ceiling out of any of our recent Rocket QBs...
Once the experience and timing factor sets in, he will put up some nice numbers...

I would like to see UT get a couple of 6'4" + WR's
and 245 lbs + RB that could run over people,thatt runs squared up and can get 1-3 yds on 3rd down.

Would also like to see clones of Nick Kasczur, John Greco, Zac Kerin, Greg Mancz, Andy McCollum, and Ken Moyer as our future Rocket O-line with one being our tackle-eligible TE ...

Bradley could throw with the best of the NFL QBs as we speak. The only college QB with a better arm I have seen is Jacob Eason at Washington. We don't have WRs who can catch 100mph balls though. He could transfer to a P5 school and be a stud if they have some sure handed WRs. Mitchel is the closest we have to that...

(11-21-2019 03:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Bradley could throw with the best of the NFL QBs as we speak. The only college QB with a better arm I have seen is Jacob Eason at Washington. We don't have WRs who can catch 100mph balls though. He could transfer to a P5 school and be a stud if they have some sure handed WRs. Mitchel is the closest we have to that...

Have you seen his footwork? He looks like a frog dancing on hot coals. He has a 100 mph arm, but needs to work on his mechanics.

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(11-21-2019 03:30 PM)emanoh Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 03:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Bradley could throw with the best of the NFL QBs as we speak. The only college QB with a better arm I have seen is Jacob Eason at Washington. We don't have WRs who can catch 100mph balls though. He could transfer to a P5 school and be a stud if they have some sure handed WRs. Mitchel is the closest we have to that...

Have you seen his footwork? He looks like a frog dancing on hot coals. He has a 100 mph arm, but needs to work on his mechanics.

I believe the dancing around is because he is young and inexperienced and feels the pressure and loses his composure a bit and the footwork goes out the window. It's definitely fixable though, especially with more game experience.

(11-21-2019 03:30 PM)emanoh Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 03:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Bradley could throw with the best of the NFL QBs as we speak. The only college QB with a better arm I have seen is Jacob Eason at Washington. We don't have WRs who can catch 100mph balls though. He could transfer to a P5 school and be a stud if they have some sure handed WRs. Mitchel is the closest we have to that...

Have you seen his footwork? He looks like a frog dancing on hot coals. He has a 100 mph arm, but needs to work on his mechanics.

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and his touch on shorter passes.....

(11-21-2019 03:30 PM)emanoh Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 03:14 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Bradley could throw with the best of the NFL QBs as we speak. The only college QB with a better arm I have seen is Jacob Eason at Washington. We don't have WRs who can catch 100mph balls though. He could transfer to a P5 school and be a stud if they have some sure handed WRs. Mitchel is the closest we have to that...

Have you seen his footwork? He looks like a frog dancing on hot coals. He has a 100 mph arm, but needs to work on his mechanics.

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I bet he can throw it 65+ from a stand still. That's what I'm referencing. He is strong and can absolutely sling it. Way stronger than any Toledo passer I have seen. TO

(11-21-2019 10:30 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)Springboromark Wrote:  I thought Bradley would by now come into his own. Right now he maybe the most overrated QB UT ever recruited.

Please, the guy is a Freshman with little game experience playing behind a mediocre line with
a relatively new receiving corp. Not like Cody, Jon'Vea, Diontae are running the routes.

Right. But some of the WR's are Jr's and Sr's and they're dropping balls they ought to be hauling in. Maybe the balls are coming in too hot, but that seems like something Bradley can adjust as he matures. I haven't given up on him at all.

(11-21-2019 04:35 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 10:30 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-21-2019 09:07 AM)Springboromark Wrote:  I thought Bradley would by now come into his own. Right now he maybe the most overrated QB UT ever recruited.

Please, the guy is a Freshman with little game experience playing behind a mediocre line with
a relatively new receiving corp. Not like Cody, Jon'Vea, Diontae are running the routes.

Right. But some of the WR's are Jr's and Sr's and they're dropping balls they ought to be hauling in. Maybe the balls are coming in too hot, but that seems like something Bradley can adjust as he matures. I haven't given up on him at all.

The ball is not coming in too hot. Never heard a coach say, "I want you to throw the ball with less velocity." Point being, it might take the receivers some getting used to his passes, especially if others don't throw it as hard.......but they can and will adjust. It's a good thing if the QB throws the ball really hard.

Then why is it that some posters are screaming for Finn to play some at CMU. Willing to bet that if Peters is ruled okay to play, he will start against the Chips. Bradley will ride the bench. Interesting what UT players will be in the transfer portal after this season's debacle.

(11-20-2019 11:56 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:21 PM)emanoh Wrote:  This season makes me want Tim Beckman back. Man that guy could preserve timeouts.

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Seriously -- if it wasn't for that hazing related lawsuit I'll bet he could be brought back. If I'm not mistaken, he hired Candle, Campbell and some other good assistants. Candle could recruit, but Beckman could hire. If not a HC, he could be a DC because defense was his thing. But, with that lawsuit, sadly, it just can't happen....

2009 2nd worst scoring defense in UT history
2011 4th worst scoring defense in UT history (gave up 60+ points, twice.)

Candle's defenses have been not as bad in comparison.

(11-22-2019 08:28 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:56 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:21 PM)emanoh Wrote:  This season makes me want Tim Beckman back. Man that guy could preserve timeouts.

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Seriously -- if it wasn't for that hazing related lawsuit I'll bet he could be brought back. If I'm not mistaken, he hired Candle, Campbell and some other good assistants. Candle could recruit, but Beckman could hire. If not a HC, he could be a DC because defense was his thing. But, with that lawsuit, sadly, it just can't happen....

2009 2nd worst scoring defense in UT history
2011 4th worst scoring defense in UT history (gave up 60+ points, twice.)

Candle's defenses have been not as bad in comparison.

Defense played good enough to beat BG. Take away the 2 big plays and they stuff the Falcons.
The offense and especially the special team blew that game.

(11-22-2019 08:28 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:56 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:21 PM)emanoh Wrote:  This season makes me want Tim Beckman back. Man that guy could preserve timeouts.

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Seriously -- if it wasn't for that hazing related lawsuit I'll bet he could be brought back. If I'm not mistaken, he hired Candle, Campbell and some other good assistants. Candle could recruit, but Beckman could hire. If not a HC, he could be a DC because defense was his thing. But, with that lawsuit, sadly, it just can't happen....

2009 2nd worst scoring defense in UT history
2011 4th worst scoring defense in UT history (gave up 60+ points, twice.)

Candle's defenses have been not as bad in comparison.

That's a joke. 2009 Beckman inherited a disaster
of a program. 2011 Rockets were a quick strike
Offense scoring a record 549 points, about 140 more than opponents.UT went 9-4 and 7-1 in the
Conference. I'm not seeing any OSU', Boise St, Syracuse, Purdue, etc on the current schedule.
Candle got a Rocket program that gave up 249 points and went 10-2. We're now looking at possibly
6-6 or losing a Bowl game and having a losing record. Coach Candle totally owns this. Year #4 you're suppose to be on track.
He can also take credit for academic successes,etc.
You get the big bucks to win.

(11-22-2019 09:58 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(11-22-2019 08:28 AM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:56 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(11-20-2019 11:21 PM)emanoh Wrote:  This season makes me want Tim Beckman back. Man that guy could preserve timeouts.

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Seriously -- if it wasn't for that hazing related lawsuit I'll bet he could be brought back. If I'm not mistaken, he hired Candle, Campbell and some other good assistants. Candle could recruit, but Beckman could hire. If not a HC, he could be a DC because defense was his thing. But, with that lawsuit, sadly, it just can't happen....

2009 2nd worst scoring defense in UT history
2011 4th worst scoring defense in UT history (gave up 60+ points, twice.)

Candle's defenses have been not as bad in comparison.

That's a joke. 2009 Beckman inherited a disaster
of a program. 2011 Rockets were a quick strike
Offense scoring a record 549 points, about 140 more than opponents.UT went 9-4 and 7-1 in the
Conference. I'm not seeing any OSU', Boise St, Syracuse, Purdue, etc on the current schedule.
Candle got a Rocket program that gave up 249 points and went 10-2. We're now looking at possibly
6-6 or losing a Bowl game and having a losing record. Coach Candle totally owns this. Year #4 you're suppose to be on track.
He can also take credit for academic successes,etc.
You get the big bucks to win.

I'm just saying he won with offense, not defense, despite the perception that "defense was his thing". And in those two 60 point games in 2011, UT held time of possession of 35 minutes against NIU and nearly 40 minutes against WMU. So, it wasn't the quick strike offense that gave up the points. And in his 3 years at Illinois, he had the 3rd and 4th worst scoring defense in UI history, and his 1st year there was also in the top 10.

My intention was not to use this to argue that Candle doesn't have big issues as a coach - he does. But great offenses can allow some selective amnesia about the poor defenses.

But anyway, I've talked way to much about Beckman. Dude's gone.