Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

(11-24-2019 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

The Nebraska of the 90’s that was competing for national championships all the way until Eric Couch in the early 00’s is not the same Nebraska program of the last decade. I still believe Frost is the one who will right the ship but it’ll take him probably two more seasons before the Huskers contend for a B1G West title.

As for Texas A&M, it’s not about recruiting, money, facilities, fans, exposure, conference. They have all of that. They’re the SEC school in the Great State of Texas. They won a Heisman with Johnny Manziel in their first season in the SEC. But they haven’t won a conference title in over 20 years, 1998 to be exact when they beat North Division champ Kansas State and then lost to Ohio State in the BCS Sugar Bowl. Being in the SEC West with Alabama, Auburn and Louisiana State is not helping either. I just don’t see them being a 10+ win program on a regular basis.

(11-24-2019 03:09 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

The Nebraska of the 90’s that was competing for national championships all the way until Eric Couch in the early 00’s is not the same Nebraska program of the last decade. I still believe Frost is the one who will right the ship but it’ll take him probably two more seasons before the Huskers contend for a B1G West title.

As for Texas A&M, it’s not about recruiting, money, facilities, fans, exposure, conference. They have all of that. They’re the SEC school in the Great State of Texas. They won a Heisman with Johnny Manziel in their first season in the SEC. But they haven’t won a conference title in over 20 years, 1998 to be exact when they beat North Division champ Kansas State and then lost to Ohio State in the BCS Sugar Bowl. Being in the SEC West with Alabama, Auburn and Louisiana State is not helping either. I just don’t see them being a 10+ win program on a regular basis.

I like Texas A&M and was hoping the Big 10 could find a way of getting them in the conference when realignment was still hot.

I also know that if they weren't consistently dominant in the SWC/Big 12, why would anybody believe they would be in the SEC? Serious question I'm asking because I just don't see it happening.

Now, I also believe they were a homerun addition for the SEC. Will they win championships? History has shown me there is just something that doesn't allow that at College Station.

Nebraska? God I hope they get back to where they were in the 90's. I see them more Iowa/Wisconsin like, but that's not a bad thing.

(11-24-2019 03:19 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:09 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

The Nebraska of the 90’s that was competing for national championships all the way until Eric Couch in the early 00’s is not the same Nebraska program of the last decade. I still believe Frost is the one who will right the ship but it’ll take him probably two more seasons before the Huskers contend for a B1G West title.

As for Texas A&M, it’s not about recruiting, money, facilities, fans, exposure, conference. They have all of that. They’re the SEC school in the Great State of Texas. They won a Heisman with Johnny Manziel in their first season in the SEC. But they haven’t won a conference title in over 20 years, 1998 to be exact when they beat North Division champ Kansas State and then lost to Ohio State in the BCS Sugar Bowl. Being in the SEC West with Alabama, Auburn and Louisiana State is not helping either. I just don’t see them being a 10+ win program on a regular basis.

I like Texas A&M and was hoping the Big 10 could find a way of getting them in the conference when realignment was still hot.

I also know that if they weren't consistently dominant in the SWC/Big 12, why would anybody believe they would be in the SEC? Serious question I'm asking because I just don't see it happening.

Now, I also believe they were a homerun addition for the SEC. Will they win championships? History has shown me there is just something that doesn't allow that at College Station.

Nebraska? God I hope they get back to where they were in the 90's. I see them more Iowa/Wisconsin like, but that's not a bad thing.

Like you, I believe Texas A&M was a home run addition to the SEC. The problem with them is unlike Texas or Oklahoma, they don’t have much to show about except having a rabid fan base. You can say they have a recent Heisman but so does Baylor. They’ll forever say they’re the sleeping giant but that’s about it. I kind of think the same on Arizona State. So much potential.

As for yesterday, that PSU-OSU game was good. The Buckeyes played better and I think I’ll root for your team over Michigan next week. We need a B1G team in the playoffs and break the evil SEC domination

(11-24-2019 03:09 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 10:46 AM)panite Wrote:  Frost and Nebraska are one game away from being bowl eligible after steamrolling Maryland yesterday. Can you imagine Nebraska being lumped in conversations with Maryland, Purdue, Rutgers, Indiana, Northwestern, and Illinois after years of riding the top tier in the old B-8 and B-12. How far they have fallen since entering the B-10.

Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

The Nebraska of the 90’s that was competing for national championships all the way until Eric Couch in the early 00’s is not the same Nebraska program of the last decade.

I think your comment highlights the flaw that you and many others seem to make about Nebraska - because they are not the Big Red Machine that perennially competed for national championships in the 1990s (and really, for about a full 1/3 of a century from the 1960s to the early 2000s), you mistakenly think they have been mediocre since.

They haven't been mediocre. Overall, they have been above average even since 2001. Since 2002, they have had 10 seasons of 9 wins or more. Heck, the only really bad years they've had have been the last two, the 4-8 seasons in 2017 and 2018.

But because they were so mind-boggingly successful before then, this "above average" performance looks like ... mediocre.

(11-25-2019 12:33 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:19 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 03:09 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:46 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2019 02:33 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  Well, their fall started in the Big XII and I don’t know if they would be better off had they stayed. Same thing with Texas A&M, they were a mediocre program in the Big XII and they continue to be one in the SEC.

A better way to put it would be "they were initially a dominant program in the Big 12, then became merely a good one, then they were a very good program in the B1G, and in the last couple of years have been a lousy one".

I mean, in 23 combined years in the Big 12 and B1G, they have won at least 9 games 16 times. That's not mediocre.

The Nebraska of the 90’s that was competing for national championships all the way until Eric Couch in the early 00’s is not the same Nebraska program of the last decade. I still believe Frost is the one who will right the ship but it’ll take him probably two more seasons before the Huskers contend for a B1G West title.

As for Texas A&M, it’s not about recruiting, money, facilities, fans, exposure, conference. They have all of that. They’re the SEC school in the Great State of Texas. They won a Heisman with Johnny Manziel in their first season in the SEC. But they haven’t won a conference title in over 20 years, 1998 to be exact when they beat North Division champ Kansas State and then lost to Ohio State in the BCS Sugar Bowl. Being in the SEC West with Alabama, Auburn and Louisiana State is not helping either. I just don’t see them being a 10+ win program on a regular basis.

I like Texas A&M and was hoping the Big 10 could find a way of getting them in the conference when realignment was still hot.

I also know that if they weren't consistently dominant in the SWC/Big 12, why would anybody believe they would be in the SEC? Serious question I'm asking because I just don't see it happening.

Now, I also believe they were a homerun addition for the SEC. Will they win championships? History has shown me there is just something that doesn't allow that at College Station.

Nebraska? God I hope they get back to where they were in the 90's. I see them more Iowa/Wisconsin like, but that's not a bad thing.

Like you, I believe Texas A&M was a home run addition to the SEC. The problem with them is unlike Texas or Oklahoma, they don’t have much to show about except having a rabid fan base. You can say they have a recent Heisman but so does Baylor. They’ll forever say they’re the sleeping giant but that’s about it. I kind of think the same on Arizona State. So much potential.

As for yesterday, that PSU-OSU game was good. The Buckeyes played better and I think I’ll root for your team over Michigan next week. We need a B1G team in the playoffs and break the evil SEC domination

Penn State is a really good team and best of luck the rest of the way.

I have nothing against the SEC, it's that certain network that has caused me to despise certain things about college football.

Appreciate and always enjoy your posts!

(11-25-2019 12:33 AM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  The Buckeyes played better and I think I’ll root for your team over Michigan next week. We need a B1G team in the playoffs and break the evil SEC domination

I think that is going to be difficult. IMO, Michigan is underrated, they are playing really good football. Their defense is legit and their QB has really grown and has savvy not just technical skills.

This could be the year Michigan breaks the long Ohio State domination streak.