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(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

Exactly. Disney + is giving me 4K versions of movies I already own on DVD or Blu Ray. Cheaper than buying them all again. The only reason I'd drop it would be a series of price increases, which I fear will be coming.
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Signed up for the bundle. Already spending $10.70 per month (pro-rated) on ESPN+ and Hulu so adding Disney+ costs me $2.29 a month. I will have no trouble finding $2.30 worth of content to watch per month.
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(11-15-2019 09:42 AM)e-parade Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 07:46 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I would agree there are some Disney diehards out there and they were waiting at the gate for the doors to open.

The next crop will be harder to win, but if their original stuff is good then they will build a pretty good base. You've got tons of Marvel and Star Wars fans hungering for virtually any and every foray into their favorite universe.

All the kids programming will sustain them as well because tons and tons of parents will recognize the service as a one-stop shop. And if anyone watches the same movie on repeat then it's little kids. They won't have to develop new stuff as regularly.

And now there's people out there like me, who have ESPN+ and a girlfriend/spouse/partner they live with that has Hulu and will start to do some math to compare price points.

I think they're already bundling the streaming services...Hulu/ESPN+/Disney+

In time, I'm sure they will offer some sort of discount for adding Hulu Live as well. They'll pretty much cover every possible base.

As long as someone has a quality internet connection then all of this would be a very good value. It's still bundling, but without some of the overhead for channels that most people simply don't watch.

I also forgot to add earlier that National Geographic was a part of the purchase from Fox. So there's another sphere of content that will appeal to different audiences. And if this approach is successful then I would fully expect Disney to have the cash and the desire to buy more brands as the years roll on.

Pixar, Marvel, Lucasfilm, National Geographic, the backlog of 21st Century Fox...all brands that Disney didn't own until more recent years.
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(11-15-2019 12:41 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 09:42 AM)e-parade Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 07:46 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I would agree there are some Disney diehards out there and they were waiting at the gate for the doors to open.

The next crop will be harder to win, but if their original stuff is good then they will build a pretty good base. You've got tons of Marvel and Star Wars fans hungering for virtually any and every foray into their favorite universe.

All the kids programming will sustain them as well because tons and tons of parents will recognize the service as a one-stop shop. And if anyone watches the same movie on repeat then it's little kids. They won't have to develop new stuff as regularly.

And now there's people out there like me, who have ESPN+ and a girlfriend/spouse/partner they live with that has Hulu and will start to do some math to compare price points.

I think they're already bundling the streaming services...Hulu/ESPN+/Disney+

That's what I meant, yeah. We're paying for the two services separately right now, and bundle exists at a rate that's slightly above what we have today. Extra money, yeah, but it also comes with a lot more content.

If we deem the extra content is worth the extra ~$1/mo, then we may as well bundle.
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(11-15-2019 11:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

Exactly. Disney + is giving me 4K versions of movies I already own on DVD or Blu Ray. Cheaper than buying them all again. The only reason I'd drop it would be a series of price increases, which I fear will be coming.

But how many people can stream in 4k? At my last 3 houses, I couldn't even stream in HD. Not at any price.

The cable companies have no incentive to make streaming higher quality or more consistent than cable tv.
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(11-15-2019 02:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:56 AM)Chappy Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

Exactly. Disney + is giving me 4K versions of movies I already own on DVD or Blu Ray. Cheaper than buying them all again. The only reason I'd drop it would be a series of price increases, which I fear will be coming.

But how many people can stream in 4k? At my last 3 houses, I couldn't even stream in HD. Not at any price.

The cable companies have no incentive to make streaming higher quality or more consistent than cable tv.

A good point, but there's variance in internet providers. They are usually the cable companies, but not always.

That and as times goes by, I think a lot of these cable companies will develop their own robust streaming platforms. Some are already in that business to some degree.

At that point, you may see partnerships where a company favors one streaming service over another and provides them with the bells and whistles while limiting it for other products. That's already happened with Comcast striking a deal with Netflix. You're also seeing Verizon working with Disney apparently and there are other examples.
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(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

If you have pre-teens in your house the average is 167,218 times each.
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(11-15-2019 08:34 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

If you have pre-teens in your house the average is 167,218 times each.

and if you have mid single digits in your house that number is double.
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(11-15-2019 09:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 08:34 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

If you have pre-teens in your house the average is 167,218 times each.

and if you have mid single digits in your house that number is double.
Ok...if I accept your premise, then that puts Disney Channel cable channel in jeopardy and by collateral damage ESPN with people no longer need cable to watch Disney.
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(11-15-2019 09:21 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 09:04 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 08:34 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

If you have pre-teens in your house the average is 167,218 times each.

and if you have mid single digits in your house that number is double.
Ok...if I accept your premise, then that puts Disney Channel cable channel in jeopardy and by collateral damage ESPN with people no longer need cable to watch Disney.

In this day and age, streaming services are still a niche product. They are used to capture viewers that have either already given up on traditional cable or have enough disposable income that they don't care about spending a little extra to ensure they have their favorite content on demand.

The on-demand video library is the under-advertised feature of this type of technology. It's one thing to be able to watch a channel dedicated to your favorite type of content, but it's another to literally pick what you want to watch whenever you want to watch it and watch it as often as you like. Pause it or rewind if you need to. The ability to binge watch a series you really like and not have to wait until the next week to get another dose...it's appealing for a lot of different reasons.

The strength of traditional cable is the bundle...you get lots of different types of content for a flat rate. It's ideal for sports viewers certainly as well as people who don't particularly have destination shows or channels they like. Flip it on in your spare time and see what catches your eye...that sort of thing.

It wasn't that long ago really that cable technology supplanted traditional broadcast television. Oddly enough, broadcast TV didn't go away. Part of that is government regulation, but OTA companies still make plenty of money. They do it a little differently, but their basic model survives. In other words, the advent of cable changed the market, but didn't necessarily undermine what came before it. In the same way, I predict that internet-based TV will supplant cable technologically, but won't destroy its predecessor. The market will change, but the basic model by which cable makes money will survive.

Sometimes people compare cable TV to the newspaper industry. I think it's a reasonable comparison, but my opinion is that the newspaper industry is dying because of the inefficiency of the medium rather than it being a matter of simply being replaced by the next best thing. That sort of thing happens, but the reality is that both TV and internet-based means of disseminating information are so far ahead of the old newspaper model that it can't really survive. The product is too inefficient, too rigid, and too slow to compete.

Printing words on paper is still a worthwhile and profitable technology(books make plenty of money), but not if your words are basically useless 24 hours after being put down. That and it's impossible for that medium to satisfy a market that demands instant reaction and information.

By contrast, OTA broadcasting and cable are still doing well. The biggest difference for cable is the product is currently too expensive. Some media companies got a little greedy when they decided to create hundreds of channels that no one watches just so they could collect subscriber fees. They were caught a little off guard when someone figured out there was a more efficient way to distribute. Now some of those companies are making a little less money, but they're not going broke. Those companies will adjust to the new market just as OTA broadcasters had to adjust.

One of these days, someone will invent an idea that is better than the internet and it will start all over again.
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(11-15-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

shoot, doesn't it even have a lot of the classics and new classics? Like the '94 version of Lion King?

Does it have "Rocketman" with Harland Williams. It is one of my favorites but not a big seller.
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(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cyutting cable because of the Disney channel.

We plan on subscribing for about 6-8 months, then dropping
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They are going to censor out old movies on Disney+ because of the SJWs want it to be.

Dumbo will have the jive talking crows removed.
Lady and the Tramp will have the cats removed.
Peter Pan will have the Native Americans removed.
The N word would be edited out of all the old movies.
Anything that is insensitive to certain groups of people would get stuff edited out of the movies.

As it is, Disney+ is already considered a failure for the censoring parts of the movies.
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(11-16-2019 12:17 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  They are going to censor out old movies on Disney+ because of the SJWs want it to be.

Dumbo will have the jive talking crows removed.
Lady and the Tramp will have the cats removed.
Peter Pan will have the Native Americans removed.
The N word would be edited out of all the old movies.
Anything that is insensitive to certain groups of people would get stuff edited out of the movies.

As it is, Disney+ is already considered a failure for the censoring parts of the movies.

If this happens, it will be ridiculous.
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(11-16-2019 06:26 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

shoot, doesn't it even have a lot of the classics and new classics? Like the '94 version of Lion King?

Does it have "Rocketman" with Harland Williams. It is one of my favorites but not a big seller.

I just searched for it and did not see any results for it
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(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

They are offering a bundle with ESPN+ and Hulu for $12.99 so it's a great deal.
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This what is wrong with Disney+ right now.
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(11-16-2019 04:04 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

They are offering a bundle with ESPN+ and Hulu for $12.99 so it's a great deal.

I almost never stream movies or shows i have already seen, i like new content. So Disney+ big library of all those Marvel and Pixar movies, etc is nothing for me.

But i did get D+ because its just $2 more than Hulu and ESPN+ which i do like.

Have watched the new Star Wars show on D+, that is the kind of thing i like.
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(11-16-2019 02:47 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-16-2019 06:26 AM)sierrajip Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:04 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 11:03 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 03:31 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  Good numbers but will it hold? How many times are you going to watch the same Disney movies and shows? We’ll see if people drop off when they see the content available.
Also, if people are satisfied with Disney+ will they cut cable which is still Disney’s cash cow? Many probably have held off cutting cable because of the Disney channel.

Its the Disney movies in HD/UHD that sell me.

We can watch things like Honey I shrunk the kids, Sandlot, and Mulan in 4K.

It would be incredibly expensive to go buy all those movies or even rent them. The Star Wars, Marvel, and NG are a plus.

I would happily pay 16 a month.

shoot, doesn't it even have a lot of the classics and new classics? Like the '94 version of Lion King?

Does it have "Rocketman" with Harland Williams. It is one of my favorites but not a big seller.

I just searched for it and did not see any results for it

Thanks
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The service rocks. There are plenty of original shows besides the Mandalorian which I really like. They're not necessarily going to appeal to certain people, but one example is a documentary series called The Imagineering Story (it talks about the people behind the scenes who created the rides and attractions at Disneyland, Disney World, Epcot, etc.). And they're going to release a ton of new shows next year too - the only thing I don't like about their future scheduling is it seems a bit heavy (IMO) on Marvel shows.

I cut the cord years ago. And I've been a big proponent of Netflix for quite awhile. But honestly, if Disney Plus keeps adding new content of note, I may get rid of Netflix down the road. Netflix's content lately has been crap (although I am looking forward to the Irishman).
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