Back to the original question, I doubt he goes to ARK. unless there is tons of $$$ waiting there. He can wait until the end of the season or even next, for a better gig than that to come along.

I have no idea if he goes to Arky or not. I understand his decision either way. Whichever one he does is right for him and nobody on here has a damn clue what is best for him.

You can say why leave beautiful area full of beautiful women and go to hillbillyville and the other guy can say for 5 million dollars a year.

Don’t dismiss 5 million dollars a year like it’s pocket change and no matter how many leaches are hanging off of it. Because that’s what Brohm got to go to Purdue. You think he’s mad he left Western with his 4-6 record or whatever it is now? You think he’s mad that he made his two brothers and some other friends quite a bit wealthier? He won’t be mad even when he leaves. You have to make money when it’s there.

I can understand him saying no as well. Because he’s been in the SEC albeit a short time. He knows exactly what it’s like. You’re trading one hillbillyville (UT) for another hillbillyville (Ark). Not a ton of difference except size of the city.

And I was one of the very first that congratulated FAU for the Lane Train hire. I’m a Western fan. I had zero problem hiring Petrino. He made our football program better. I didn’t give a **** about those memes with him on a motorcycle and a neck brace. Lane has done the same for FAU. I guarantee way more people know who/what/where FAU is than they did 3 years ago.

I think he’s done hella job this year. Like my Western hermano Guns. I like having him in the league. But I totally get him leaving. It’s what they do. Everywhere. No set of circumstances are ‘that special’.

Arkansas is going to be a tough place to win at no matter who comes in. Probably no tougher to win at than Purdue. I’m just happy we beat the dogshit out of them at their place. We’ve had our SEC wins in the past (not many but a few) but we didn’t really ever beat the dogshit out of one.

I'll start the rumor Justin Fuentes to Fayetteville

Kiffin is not turning down any P5 offer to stay at FAU or any CUSA school. The money difference is too great and Kiffin is trying to work his way up to a good P5 job. He is not getting a top P5 job directly from FAU. I wouldn’t be surpised if he takes an AAC position like USF or Memphis if it becomes available.

(11-16-2019 03:09 PM)XYZ Wrote:  Kiffin is not turning down any P5 offer to stay at FAU or any CUSA school. The money difference is too great and Kiffin is trying to work his way up to a good P5 job. He is not getting a top P5 job directly from FAU. I wouldn’t be surpised if he takes an AAC position like USF or Memphis if it becomes available.

he is extremely young and already has a ton of baggage both personal and job wise

while I was the one that discussed him saying he is not as loaded with cash as people think he is hardly hurting especially for his age

he is not going to jump to the first P5 or especially AAC offer that comes along simply to make that jump back up

I agree he needs to work his way up to TOP P5 job, but the way to do that is not to jump to a place like Arkansas that fired a coach after less than two seasons in the process of a total offensive change and while playing in the SEC SEC SEC west

Kiffin to Arkansas would almost certainly be 3 years and out (like it will be for about anyone) and likely the end of him getting a head coaching job offer for a LONG time

he is much better off at FAU and proving that he can build a solid program (instead of flaming out like at USC that was on double overt probation and everyone likes to forget that) and waiting for the RIGHT job to take

there was a reason he basically laughed at the UH offer when they hired Applewhite because Kiffin was not going to accept their ridiculous buyout demands (if he was to leave) while being saddled with their equally ridiculous time frame to win 9 or more games continuously or get fired

that job is a death sentence just like the Arkansas job is currently and Kiffin does not need to take one of those and he is smart enough to know that

It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! If ANY P5 (they all are swimming in money due to the BCS) offers enough money a G5 coach will take it. Stop with the "nobody wants that pressure cooker job", "but he said he loves it here", etc comments.

Tennessee hired our 4-8 (yes 4 wins and 8 losses) head coach not too long ago, so if ANYBODY with more money than brains offers Kiffen (or any other G5 coach) enough money he will be on a plane there before the ink is dry on the contract.

(11-17-2019 09:25 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! If ANY P5 (they all are swimming in money due to the BCS) offers enough money a G5 coach will take it. Stop with the "nobody wants that pressure cooker job", "but he said he loves it here", etc comments.

Tennessee hired our 4-8 (yes 4 wins and 8 losses) head coach not too long ago, so if ANYBODY with more money than brains offers Kiffen (or any other G5 coach) enough money he will be on a plane there before the ink is dry on the contract.

there is a massive difference between DD at La Tech and the position Kiffin is in now

DD was getting his first P5 offer from anyone and probably the only one he was going to get for a long while if ever and he took the money

Kiffin has crapped on one P5 job on the way out the door after one season to take a P5 job at a place that was a disaster because of probation and he was fired half way into his 4th season

he is 44 years old and has been a head coach in the NFL, and at two of the biggest P5 programs out there and he knows he is still talked about as a candidate for a lot of jobs

DD was 42 when he took the Tennessee job and he has never sniffed another head coaching position since then......but he was probably not going to sniff another one especially at a major P5 program after going 4-8 at La Tech and then who knows what the next season so he was right to jump for the money at that time because that was probably his ONLY time to do so ever

Kiffin is currently a head coach NOW and will end this season with probably no less than 8 wins and maybe as many as 10 wins

he does not need to take his possible last chance at yet another major P5 job at the age of 44 by jumping to the first terrible opening available

add in the fact that he is at least self aware enough to know he makes a terrible assistant coach because of all the stupid stuff he likes to do off of the field like sleep with other coaches wives or daughters or major boosters wives and with coeds and he likes to come to meetings late or go home early and he has a head coaches attitude and has had several big time jobs and Lane is not looking to just jump to the next "three years and fired" dumpster fire for a few million and then looking at decades of being an OC or lower where he will not last but a year or two at anywhere that hires him

I am not sure why people cannot see that many coaches are much more selective about the jobs they take these days and just because some coaches like DD at La Tech (back before coaches became more selective and coming off a 4-8 season) took the Tennessee job that does not mean that other coaches that are self aware and know what they are up against are just going to jump for the next really poor fit at a place where the likelihood of success is extremely limited.....especially at the age of 44 and knowing what a disaster going to a place that is a bad fit can be and what it does to your career

Robison has 2 more years to build around.

(11-17-2019 10:45 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 09:25 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! If ANY P5 (they all are swimming in money due to the BCS) offers enough money a G5 coach will take it. Stop with the "nobody wants that pressure cooker job", "but he said he loves it here", etc comments.

Tennessee hired our 4-8 (yes 4 wins and 8 losses) head coach not too long ago, so if ANYBODY with more money than brains offers Kiffen (or any other G5 coach) enough money he will be on a plane there before the ink is dry on the contract.

there is a massive difference between DD at La Tech and the position Kiffin is in now

DD was getting his first P5 offer from anyone and probably the only one he was going to get for a long while if ever and he took the money

Kiffin has crapped on one P5 job on the way out the door after one season to take a P5 job at a place that was a disaster because of probation and he was fired half way into his 4th season

he is 44 years old and has been a head coach in the NFL, and at two of the biggest P5 programs out there and he knows he is still talked about as a candidate for a lot of jobs

DD was 42 when he took the Tennessee job and he has never sniffed another head coaching position since then......but he was probably not going to sniff another one especially at a major P5 program after going 4-8 at La Tech and then who knows what the next season so he was right to jump for the money at that time because that was probably his ONLY time to do so ever

Kiffin is currently a head coach NOW and will end this season with probably no less than 8 wins and maybe as many as 10 wins

he does not need to take his possible last chance at yet another major P5 job at the age of 44 by jumping to the first terrible opening available

add in the fact that he is at least self aware enough to know he makes a terrible assistant coach because of all the stupid stuff he likes to do off of the field like sleep with other coaches wives or daughters or major boosters wives and with coeds and he likes to come to meetings late or go home early and he has a head coaches attitude and has had several big time jobs and Lane is not looking to just jump to the next "three years and fired" dumpster fire for a few million and then looking at decades of being an OC or lower where he will not last but a year or two at anywhere that hires him

I am not sure why people cannot see that many coaches are much more selective about the jobs they take these days and just because some coaches like DD at La Tech (back before coaches became more selective and coming off a 4-8 season) took the Tennessee job that does not mean that other coaches that are self aware and know what they are up against are just going to jump for the next really poor fit at a place where the likelihood of success is extremely limited.....especially at the age of 44 and knowing what a disaster going to a place that is a bad fit can be and what it does to your career

You have too many errors in this to take the time to correct them. Think whatever you want. We'll wait and see what happens if a $25M contract comes Kiffins way and how he responds to it.

(11-17-2019 11:30 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 10:45 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-17-2019 09:25 AM)DogsWin1 Wrote:  It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! If ANY P5 (they all are swimming in money due to the BCS) offers enough money a G5 coach will take it. Stop with the "nobody wants that pressure cooker job", "but he said he loves it here", etc comments.

Tennessee hired our 4-8 (yes 4 wins and 8 losses) head coach not too long ago, so if ANYBODY with more money than brains offers Kiffen (or any other G5 coach) enough money he will be on a plane there before the ink is dry on the contract.

there is a massive difference between DD at La Tech and the position Kiffin is in now

DD was getting his first P5 offer from anyone and probably the only one he was going to get for a long while if ever and he took the money

Kiffin has crapped on one P5 job on the way out the door after one season to take a P5 job at a place that was a disaster because of probation and he was fired half way into his 4th season

he is 44 years old and has been a head coach in the NFL, and at two of the biggest P5 programs out there and he knows he is still talked about as a candidate for a lot of jobs

DD was 42 when he took the Tennessee job and he has never sniffed another head coaching position since then......but he was probably not going to sniff another one especially at a major P5 program after going 4-8 at La Tech and then who knows what the next season so he was right to jump for the money at that time because that was probably his ONLY time to do so ever

Kiffin is currently a head coach NOW and will end this season with probably no less than 8 wins and maybe as many as 10 wins

he does not need to take his possible last chance at yet another major P5 job at the age of 44 by jumping to the first terrible opening available

add in the fact that he is at least self aware enough to know he makes a terrible assistant coach because of all the stupid stuff he likes to do off of the field like sleep with other coaches wives or daughters or major boosters wives and with coeds and he likes to come to meetings late or go home early and he has a head coaches attitude and has had several big time jobs and Lane is not looking to just jump to the next "three years and fired" dumpster fire for a few million and then looking at decades of being an OC or lower where he will not last but a year or two at anywhere that hires him

I am not sure why people cannot see that many coaches are much more selective about the jobs they take these days and just because some coaches like DD at La Tech (back before coaches became more selective and coming off a 4-8 season) took the Tennessee job that does not mean that other coaches that are self aware and know what they are up against are just going to jump for the next really poor fit at a place where the likelihood of success is extremely limited.....especially at the age of 44 and knowing what a disaster going to a place that is a bad fit can be and what it does to your career

You have too many errors in this to take the time to correct them. Think whatever you want. We'll wait and see what happens if a $25M contract comes Kiffins way and how he responds to it.

You really think someone drops a cool $25M on Kiffin?