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(11-14-2019 11:32 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 10:03 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  i took a quick count for this week only...i counted 63 games between D1 and non-D1 schools.

that's roughly 18% of all D1 teams. (i'm sure BDK will give me the exact % to 8 decimals)

that's just this week. but yea, let's continue to act like JMU playing one is so out of the ordinary.

I do see that plenty of DI schools dance with non-DI's. Does that make it right for JMU? Exhibition, I'm perfectly okay with. We need all the countable wins we can get. There's plenty of not very competitive DI's within an easy bus ride to Harrisonburg, i.e. Lehigh or Appy, that we could do deals with where we'd be a touch quicker to thump our chest over a W.

but you realize why there are so many more now right?

because the NCAA changed from allowing 2 preseason exhibitions to only 1 now a number of years back.

that's why you have these secret scrimmages and why you see those "exhibition" games now being scheduled as regular season games. Coaches want tune-ups.

nothing has changed. it's just one of the two "exhibitions" now counts in the standings. and people are all up in arms over it for some reason.

I never knew two exhibition were allowed. Did we ever schedule two?
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(11-14-2019 11:32 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 10:03 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  i took a quick count for this week only...i counted 63 games between D1 and non-D1 schools.

that's roughly 18% of all D1 teams. (i'm sure BDK will give me the exact % to 8 decimals)

that's just this week. but yea, let's continue to act like JMU playing one is so out of the ordinary.

I do see that plenty of DI schools dance with non-DI's. Does that make it right for JMU? Exhibition, I'm perfectly okay with. We need all the countable wins we can get. There's plenty of not very competitive DI's within an easy bus ride to Harrisonburg, i.e. Lehigh or Appy, that we could do deals with where we'd be a touch quicker to thump our chest over a W.

but you realize why there are so many more now right?

because the NCAA changed from allowing 2 preseason exhibitions to only 1 now a number of years back.

that's why you have these secret scrimmages and why you see those "exhibition" games now being scheduled as regular season games. Coaches want tune-ups.

nothing has changed. it's just one of the two "exhibitions" now counts in the standings. and people are all up in arms over it for some reason.

Exactly. Thanks for the clear explanation and rationale.
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(11-14-2019 11:40 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:32 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 10:03 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  i took a quick count for this week only...i counted 63 games between D1 and non-D1 schools.

that's roughly 18% of all D1 teams. (i'm sure BDK will give me the exact % to 8 decimals)

that's just this week. but yea, let's continue to act like JMU playing one is so out of the ordinary.

I do see that plenty of DI schools dance with non-DI's. Does that make it right for JMU? Exhibition, I'm perfectly okay with. We need all the countable wins we can get. There's plenty of not very competitive DI's within an easy bus ride to Harrisonburg, i.e. Lehigh or Appy, that we could do deals with where we'd be a touch quicker to thump our chest over a W.

but you realize why there are so many more now right?

because the NCAA changed from allowing 2 preseason exhibitions to only 1 now a number of years back.

that's why you have these secret scrimmages and why you see those "exhibition" games now being scheduled as regular season games. Coaches want tune-ups.

nothing has changed. it's just one of the two "exhibitions" now counts in the standings. and people are all up in arms over it for some reason.

I never knew two exhibition were allowed. Did we ever schedule two?

Yup....was the norm in the early 90's when I was at JMU and Lefty was coaching. Back then at least one of the games was typically with the Philly something or another. Basically it was a traveling semi-pro type team made up of recent college grads that traveled around the mid-atlantic providing the exhibitions games to colleges. It was a job and some extra cash to those guys.
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RE: Shenandoah
(11-14-2019 12:02 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:40 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:32 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 11:25 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  
(11-14-2019 10:03 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  i took a quick count for this week only...i counted 63 games between D1 and non-D1 schools.

that's roughly 18% of all D1 teams. (i'm sure BDK will give me the exact % to 8 decimals)

that's just this week. but yea, let's continue to act like JMU playing one is so out of the ordinary.

I do see that plenty of DI schools dance with non-DI's. Does that make it right for JMU? Exhibition, I'm perfectly okay with. We need all the countable wins we can get. There's plenty of not very competitive DI's within an easy bus ride to Harrisonburg, i.e. Lehigh or Appy, that we could do deals with where we'd be a touch quicker to thump our chest over a W.

but you realize why there are so many more now right?

because the NCAA changed from allowing 2 preseason exhibitions to only 1 now a number of years back.

that's why you have these secret scrimmages and why you see those "exhibition" games now being scheduled as regular season games. Coaches want tune-ups.

nothing has changed. it's just one of the two "exhibitions" now counts in the standings. and people are all up in arms over it for some reason.

I never knew two exhibition were allowed. Did we ever schedule two?

Yup....was the norm in the early 90's when I was at JMU and Lefty was coaching. Back then at least one of the games was typically with the Philly something or another. Basically it was a traveling semi-pro type team made up of recent college grads that traveled around the mid-atlantic providing the exhibitions games to colleges. It was a job and some extra cash to those guys.

I remember that one, played them every year for a long time. Just didn't know there was another that was considered an exhibition. Agree the explanation is reasonable.
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(11-13-2019 05:36 PM)JacksonHall Wrote:  I hope the play of these freshmen will give Rowe confidence to use his bench down the line. These guys can play.

Above is worth a repeat "I hope the play of these freshmen will give Rowe confidence to use his bench down the line. These guys can play." Success in modern day, mid-major basketball requires productive minutes off the bench.
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The Dukes faced extreme opposites in 2 games and the overreactions in both cases are to be expected by some I guess. We are not nearly as bad as we looked against Virginia and we aren't nearly as good as we looked against essentially a team of ghosts in Shenandoah. We weren't as good as we looked in the first 10 minutes at UVA and we weren't nearly as mediocre as we looked in the first 10 minutes yesterday as far as the game within a game went in both cases.

The freshmen will be freshmen. They will have ups and downs like all others. None of these freshmen are 5-star guys (read: ready to be consistent stars from the day they step on campus). I would not read too much into what they did against SU and what they did not (or did for that matter) do against UVA.

Last year, Lewis started out with a couple of rough games and some posters were foolishly ready to bench him. How ridiculous. Banks has had a couple of tough games from the field. He'll be fine. He has a large enough sample size that proves he's much better than that. Anybody can take a sample size of 2 consecutive games and claim someone sucks or is the next Pete Maravich (though they'll never be another Pistol Pete, but I digress 04-cheers).

The next few games are not in the extremes and we start to get a few games under our belts (read: lots of teams/players struggle in the first games of the season...gotta get into game-to-game mode). Looking forward to seeing what happens. The main goal/hope for me is to get ready (and be healthy) for when the REAL season begins in late December once conference play cranks up.
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We have no other game on the schedule where 5 true freshmen can play the majority of the 2nd half to get experience. That game yesterday may yield big results by instilling a bit more confidence in the freshman class.
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(11-14-2019 02:47 PM)AllForDukes Wrote:  We have no other game on the schedule where 5 true freshmen can play the majority of the 2nd half to get experience. That game yesterday may yield big results by instilling a bit more confidence in the freshman class.

Yup, to me that was the best part of yesterdays game. Seeing them play as a unit.

In terms of 3 point shooting:
Starting 5 (incl. Fr. Christmas): 2-14 / 14%
2nd 5 (4 freshman and Pinkard) 6-16 / 38%

If we're going to live and die by the 3 this year, gonna need the starters to improve on this.
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Urbach now at DIII Chris Pack of Newports

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...bach/10753

8 points in 14 minutes on 3-8 shooting for the same Shenandoah team

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...score/7036
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(11-15-2019 08:55 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  Urbach now at DIII Chris Pack of Newports

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...bach/10753

8 points in 14 minutes on 3-8 shooting for the same Shenandoah team

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...score/7036

Cool, glad Urbach found somewhere he can get on the court. CNU has very solid DIII programs, maybe one day he can crack their starting lineup.

Any other updates on recent transfers?
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(11-15-2019 08:59 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 08:55 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  Urbach now at DIII Chris Pack of Newports

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...bach/10753

8 points in 14 minutes on 3-8 shooting for the same Shenandoah team

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...score/7036

Cool, glad Urbach found somewhere he can get on the court. CNU has very solid DIII programs, maybe one day he can crack their starting lineup.

Any other updates on recent transfers?

You talking about me? https://southernctowls.com/roster.aspx?r...ath=mbball

Or me? https://www.wssurams.com/sports/m-baskbl...log&pos=sh

I was never really part of the program, and I'm not sharing why I left before I started... https://queensathletics.com/roster.aspx?...ath=mbball

Don't forget about me https://aamusports.com/sports/mens-baske...issum/4166

I'm still ballin' https://lamarcardinals.com/sports/mens-b...olmes/4965
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(11-15-2019 10:10 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 08:59 AM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-15-2019 08:55 AM)Bawlmer Duke Wrote:  Urbach now at DIII Chris Pack of Newports

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...bach/10753

8 points in 14 minutes on 3-8 shooting for the same Shenandoah team

https://www.cnusports.com/sports/mens-ba...score/7036

Cool, glad Urbach found somewhere he can get on the court. CNU has very solid DIII programs, maybe one day he can crack their starting lineup.

Any other updates on recent transfers?

You talking about me? https://southernctowls.com/roster.aspx?r...ath=mbball

Or me? https://www.wssurams.com/sports/m-baskbl...log&pos=sh

I was never really part of the program, and I'm not sharing why I left before I started... https://queensathletics.com/roster.aspx?...ath=mbball

Don't forget about me https://aamusports.com/sports/mens-baske...issum/4166

I'm still ballin' https://lamarcardinals.com/sports/mens-b...olmes/4965

Cool.....the only one I think could benefit JMU right now is Greg Jones. But I get why he left, he wanted more PT and was not going to get it here given his peers and the freshmen coming in. Regarding the others, I think it really shows how the roster has been upgraded over the last couple of years.

Happy for them, hopefully they all find/found what they were looking for.......if you are not 'all-in' it is best you move on.
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Did anyone ever figure out the Alex Schulz mystery? Articles were like, "the team loves him and he loves being on the team!", then he disappeared from the roster.
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