(11-10-2019 09:18 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 09:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:48 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  LSU was a little too excited at the end.

I agree. They should have acted like this:

They were celebrating like they won a playoff game. They will be flat next week.

I'm sorry but I must have missed the part where the media hyped this game up to be "THE GAME OF THE CENTURY!!!" That's bigger than a playoff game. Thank the college football gurus for putting more emphasis on a regular season game then the playoffs.

I saw a lot of emotion from some players and so what some of the players were celebrating. You been told all week Bama is better than you. LSU hadn't beaten them in 8 yrs. They had a right to be happy.

Stop being sensitive, Bama will be back. The committee will make sure of this.

You are totally whiffing on the point.

These are kids. When they get too high, they come back down. Its simply a prediction about next week.

(11-10-2019 12:14 PM)bullet Wrote:  These are kids.

I thought they were young adults.

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Offenses that good, or D just sucks hard?


Either way, OSU rolls either team.

We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year. Wisconsin had been padding defensive stats against the likes of Kent St., South Florida, Northwestern, Mich St., etc. Cincinnati struggled to beat a 3-6 East Carolina team. How good are they really? OSU rolls stat padding teams, we don't know what they do to good teams, and definitely not great teams.

(11-09-2019 08:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:45 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:35 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:28 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 08:13 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Neither Oregon nor Utah make the playoffs. Oregon lost to the team that will finish 4th or 5th in the SEC. Utah has no impressive OOC games at all and will probably lose again.

The only question left if Alabama runs the table will be are they better than Oklahoma. It is likely that L.S.U.'s first game will be with Alabama and Ohio State will play Clemson.

I think the likely pool barring upset is down to this: L.S.U., Ohio State, Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma. I think Minnesota loses to Wisconsin or Ohio State. I think Utah loses to Oregon and Oregon is out for losing to Auburn which L.S.U., and possibly Alabama will have beaten. I think Georgia loses their 2nd game in the CCG. And Ohio State and Clemson will be unbeaten.

Giving Oklahoma too much credit and Oregon not enough. Oklahoma took another hit today with Kansas State losing to unranked Texas.

Right. What's more is to ask who is each schools signature win? Texas may be a 4 loss team by the end of the regular season and Auburn could be as well (although Auburn's losses will be much higher quality than Texas's losses).
So Alabama will have lost to L.S.U. by 6.
Oregon will have lost to Auburn which in these projections will have lost to Alabama.
Oklahoma will only have 1 somewhat quality win, Texas. And I'm sorry but I watched Baylor win two games by lousy replay reviews and eek by in others. So if Oklahoma plays Baylor in the CCG and wins that won't exactly be a quality win on a national scale.

Oregon and Oklahoma both have issues with their resume'. And without question if they all end with 1 loss Alabama's loss will be the best loss. The rest is fairly lousy for all 3.

Auburn is not dropping out of the top 25 for a long time if the committee is doing what I think they are. Auburn has the #1 sos with no bad losses and that carries a ton of weight. This helps Oregon as long as Oregon wins out. If they win out and are conference champions, I'm pretty sure they will be top 4.

SOS and no signature wins will be the Ducks problem. Look no matter how you cut it when it comes down to the committee and they are looking a 1 loss Oklahoma (KState) 1 loss Oregon (Auburn) and 1 loss Alabama (L.S.U.) and they look at the SOS Alabama's will still be higher and the eye test that we all know they give whether they admit it or not will come into play. And we haven't even touched on the national audience difference which is another factor that they don't discuss, but based on past selections its fairly evident it is a consideration.

Yeah but it's complete and utter BS that two teams in the same division would have to face off twice in the same year. LSU has the team to beat Alabama but LSU already took care of them this year, they don't belong in the playoffs, even if they beat Auburn. And right now, we can't even be sure that Tua will be ok in that game. He was looking real bad after Saturday's game and hobbling. Looked like he needed the Franks Scooter or crutches. Or maybe it was exaggerated and he was limping so the committee would say "Well, Tua played in that one at 50% so lets give those guys a break." He never should have played, that was selfish on Saban's part.

(11-11-2019 11:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Offenses that good, or D just sucks hard?


Either way, OSU rolls either team.

We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year. Wisconsin had been padding defensive stats against the likes of Kent St., South Florida, Northwestern, Mich St., etc. Cincinnati struggled to beat a 3-6 East Carolina team. How good are they really? OSU rolls stat padding teams, we don't know what they do to good teams, and definitely not great teams.

I think LSU vs Ohio State would be a helluva good game, one I definitely want to see, LOL.

LSU's defense is suspect as we've seen Alabama and Texas score a lot. Especially in second half, when both teams rolled down the field to TDs just about every time they had the ball. That could be a big problem vs an Ohio State or Clemson. Then again, LSU creates problems for those teams too.

(11-09-2019 09:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:48 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  LSU was a little too excited at the end.

I agree. They should have acted like this:

They were celebrating like they won a playoff game. They will be flat next week.

They beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa and not only broke an 8 game losing streak, but also broke Alabama's 31 game home win streak, and also scored the most points on a Saban led team. They earned that celebration, this is why Orgeron was hired. We removed the only thorn in our side.

The last three teams are gonna throw everything at us because they have nothing to lose. But every player already said the time to celebrate is over and it's time to prepare for Ole Miss.

(11-11-2019 11:34 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(11-09-2019 07:27 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Offenses that good, or D just sucks hard?


Either way, OSU rolls either team.

We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year. Wisconsin had been padding defensive stats against the likes of Kent St., South Florida, Northwestern, Mich St., etc. Cincinnati struggled to beat a 3-6 East Carolina team. How good are they really? OSU rolls stat padding teams, we don't know what they do to good teams, and definitely not great teams.

I think LSU vs Ohio State would be a helluva good game, one I definitely want to see, LOL.

LSU's defense is suspect as we've seen Alabama and Texas score a lot. Especially in second half, when both teams rolled down the field to TDs just about every time they had the ball. That could be a big problem vs an Ohio State or Clemson. Then again, LSU creates problems for those teams too.

Other than a couple of big runs, LSU's run defense has been very good. OSU would have to beat LSU through the air and that's gonna take more than 200 yards to do. Burrow can beat you in the air and on the ground, and when he's pressured, he becomes even more dangerous. He's like the perfect storm and will be sorely missed next year. Anything can happen and any team can have a bad game, but OSU hasn't faced a team quite like LSU.

(11-11-2019 11:38 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  The last three teams are gonna throw everything at us because they have nothing to lose. But every player already said the time to celebrate is over and it's time to prepare for Ole Miss.

I remember the last time LSU beat Alabama, the next game was a home game versus Western Kentucky, one that I attended. IIRC, LSU did start out in kind of a letdown mode, the game was tied almost until halftime. After halftime, LSU pulled away and won easily. But, a similar start could be more difficult to pull out of this time, given that LSU is on the road against a traditional SEC rival. So getting over the Alabama win is essential. If ever the '24 hour rule' needs to apply, it's now.

BTW, the WKU team was coached by Willie Taggart. Also, the Hilltoppers went 7-5 and were bowl eligible, but they did not play in a bowl game. Although they finished second in the Sun Belt conference behind only Arkansas State, two teams they finished ahead of, and beat during the Sun Belt season, FIU and Louisiana-Lafayette, got in to bowl games ahead of them somehow.

Also, WKU was a victim of that weird UCLA situation, where UCLA got in to a bowl game with a 6-7 record, as a result of playing in and losing the PAC title game because USC, their division winner, was on probation. The NCAA accepted their petition for a waiver, as at the time, the rule said no team with a losing record was bowl eligible. Had UCLA not gotten the waiver, WKU would have gotten a bowl bid as they were the only eligible team left out that year.

(11-11-2019 12:04 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:38 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  The last three teams are gonna throw everything at us because they have nothing to lose. But every player already said the time to celebrate is over and it's time to prepare for Ole Miss.

I remember the last time LSU beat Alabama, the next game was a home game versus Western Kentucky, one that I attended. IIRC, LSU did start out in kind of a letdown mode, the game was tied almost until halftime. After halftime, LSU pulled away and won easily. But, a similar start could be more difficult to pull out of this time, given that LSU is on the road against a traditional SEC rival. So getting over the Alabama win is essential. If ever the '24 hour rule' needs to apply, it's now.

BTW, the WKU team was coached by Willie Taggart. Also, the Hilltoppers went 7-5 and were bowl eligible, but they did not play in a bowl game. Although they finished second in the Sun Belt conference behind only Arkansas State, two teams they finished ahead of, and beat during the Sun Belt season, FIU and Louisiana-Lafayette, got in to bowl games ahead of them somehow.

Also, WKU was a victim of that weird UCLA situation, where UCLA got in to a bowl game with a 6-7 record, as a result of playing in and losing the PAC title game because USC, their division winner, was on probation. The NCAA accepted their petition for a waiver, as at the time, the rule said no team with a losing record was bowl eligible. Had UCLA not gotten the waiver, WKU would have gotten a bowl bid as they were the only eligible team left out that year.

Oh I remember indeed. We also had slow starts against #3 Arkansas and #12 UGA - in the SECCG - after the Alabama game. But we also had Jefferson at QB and he wasn't a good QB. Miles keeping him in through the entire BCSNC and not letting Lee (who had the best PEI rating in the SEC) play was Miles's ultimate downfall.

I think Orgeron will have our guys ready, but he's gonna learn a real hard lesson if he doesn't. They need to come out swinging and keep the accelerator hammered down.

(11-11-2019 11:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year.

Actually, in recent years, Ohio State has been very good in post-season games.

In the playoffs, they are 2-1 overall and are the only team other than Clemson or Alabama to win a CFP title and the only team other than them to have a winning playoff record and two wins in the playoffs.

And in the three other years of the CFP, they have gone to NY6 bowl games and won them all - Fiesta Bowl in 2015, Cotton Bowl in 2017, and Rose Bowl in 2018.

That's a 5-1 record in NY6/Playoff games in the five years of the CFP. Extremely impressive if you ask me.

(11-11-2019 12:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year.

Actually, in recent years, Ohio State has been very good in post-season games.

In the playoffs, they are 2-1 overall and are the only team other than Clemson or Alabama to win a CFP title and the only team other than them to have a winning playoff record and two wins in the playoffs.

And in the three other years of the CFP, they have gone to NY6 bowl games and won them all - Fiesta Bowl in 2015, Cotton Bowl in 2017, and Rose Bowl in 2018.

That's a 5-1 record in NY6/Playoff games in the five years of the CFP. Extremely impressive if you ask me.

Think he's talking about some of the games at the end of the regular season. Like the year where they lost to Michigan St the week before Michigan.

(11-11-2019 12:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 11:17 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  We'll have to wait until OSU plays a decent team before we can decide how tough they are. They were dominant in years past until they got to the big game and then flopped, with the exception of one year.

Actually, in recent years, Ohio State has been very good in post-season games.

In the playoffs, they are 2-1 overall and are the only team other than Clemson or Alabama to win a CFP title and the only team other than them to have a winning playoff record and two wins in the playoffs.

And in the three other years of the CFP, they have gone to NY6 bowl games and won them all - Fiesta Bowl in 2015, Cotton Bowl in 2017, and Rose Bowl in 2018.

That's a 5-1 record in NY6/Playoff games in the five years of the CFP. Extremely impressive if you ask me.

When I said "year's past" I was going back farther. I should have said that. In 2006, they played a tight one with #2 Michigan and the voters wanted to keep Michigan at #2 but instead put Florida in and they beat OSU 41-14. The next year they went and played LSU and lost 38 - 24. They looked very impressive in 2014 and I called them to win it all that year once they started blowing through teams toward the end of the year. My mind could change again, but I don't find them as dominant yet. Yeah they've demolished teams, but they haven't played one that can pose a challenge yet. And the PSU game just lost some luster.

saw this-

Belichick estimates 40 pro guys in the LSU/Alabama game on Saturday.....