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Lol. You guys have got to be kidding. "floating transfer ideas"? (shhhh. if they hear us we may give them an idea they never heard of or thought of)....said the school with transfers Okauru, Gadsden, Linssen, Skaggs, Bowen and Tolefree.

Be vewy, vewy quiet...........
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The energy that Shy brings us off the bench is great, but he shouldn't take minutes from Kai. I get Hawkings concern about playing Shy and Kai together, but I think it's going to have to happen for certain stretches in games. A small ball lineup with them two, Estime, Skaggs, and Sims is something I would like to see. They could push the ball up the court off of rebounds, and both guards can penetrate the lane in the half court. Kai's shot looks improved so far, teams might have to respect it a bit more this season. Still early in the season and more experimenting to do with the rotation. Like what I've seen so far but still think we have a long way to go if we want to be competitive with the top of CAA.
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(11-10-2019 08:08 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  The energy that Shy brings us off the bench is great, but he shouldn't take minutes from Kai. I get Hawkings concern about playing Shy and Kai together, but I think it's going to have to happen for certain stretches in games. A small ball lineup with them two, Estime, Skaggs, and Sims is something I would like to see. They could push the ball up the court off of rebounds, and both guards can penetrate the lane in the half court. Kai's shot looks improved so far, teams might have to respect it a bit more this season. Still early in the season and more experimenting to do with the rotation. Like what I've seen so far but still think we have a long way to go if we want to be competitive with the top of CAA.


Whew. I was with you until you put forth the idea of Sims and Skaggs being the biggest guys on the court. Cannot picture that ever happening. Phillips and Toews together, absolutely.
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(11-10-2019 08:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:08 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  The energy that Shy brings us off the bench is great, but he shouldn't take minutes from Kai. I get Hawkings concern about playing Shy and Kai together, but I think it's going to have to happen for certain stretches in games. A small ball lineup with them two, Estime, Skaggs, and Sims is something I would like to see. They could push the ball up the court off of rebounds, and both guards can penetrate the lane in the half court. Kai's shot looks improved so far, teams might have to respect it a bit more this season. Still early in the season and more experimenting to do with the rotation. Like what I've seen so far but still think we have a long way to go if we want to be competitive with the top of CAA.


Whew. I was with you until you put forth the idea of Sims and Skaggs being the biggest guys on the court. Cannot picture that ever happening. Phillips and Toews together, absolutely.

Sims is stronger this season and held his own in the paint against a much bigger UNC squad. It just doesn't make sense to me to play a traditional big on the offensive side with those two guards in. The need the lane to be open so they can get to the basket or penetrate and kick.
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It will soon be hard to keep Boggs off the court.
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(11-10-2019 08:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Phillips and Toews together, absolutely.

Phillips playing time has been limited in the first two games by his getting two quick fouls in the first half in both games. I agree, though - He looks great .
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(11-10-2019 08:24 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:08 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  The energy that Shy brings us off the bench is great, but he shouldn't take minutes from Kai. I get Hawkings concern about playing Shy and Kai together, but I think it's going to have to happen for certain stretches in games. A small ball lineup with them two, Estime, Skaggs, and Sims is something I would like to see. They could push the ball up the court off of rebounds, and both guards can penetrate the lane in the half court. Kai's shot looks improved so far, teams might have to respect it a bit more this season. Still early in the season and more experimenting to do with the rotation. Like what I've seen so far but still think we have a long way to go if we want to be competitive with the top of CAA.


Whew. I was with you until you put forth the idea of Sims and Skaggs being the biggest guys on the court. Cannot picture that ever happening. Phillips and Toews together, absolutely.

Sims is stronger this season and held his own in the paint against a much bigger UNC squad. It just doesn't make sense to me to play a traditional big on the offensive side with those two guards in. The need the lane to be open so they can get to the basket or penetrate and kick.

He may have, but there was also a bigger guy on the court than him. No way on earth he can play the 5, we'd get slaughtered in the paint. We're already playing a 4 guard set and have been moving the 5 to the top of the key to open the paint. You may see it as a good idea, but I can't picture McGrath coming to the same conclusion(except he probably gets his ideas here, as well as the guys hearing about transferring here).
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The immature internet bullying on this board is laughable.
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(11-10-2019 08:40 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:24 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:17 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 08:08 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  The energy that Shy brings us off the bench is great, but he shouldn't take minutes from Kai. I get Hawkings concern about playing Shy and Kai together, but I think it's going to have to happen for certain stretches in games. A small ball lineup with them two, Estime, Skaggs, and Sims is something I would like to see. They could push the ball up the court off of rebounds, and both guards can penetrate the lane in the half court. Kai's shot looks improved so far, teams might have to respect it a bit more this season. Still early in the season and more experimenting to do with the rotation. Like what I've seen so far but still think we have a long way to go if we want to be competitive with the top of CAA.


Whew. I was with you until you put forth the idea of Sims and Skaggs being the biggest guys on the court. Cannot picture that ever happening. Phillips and Toews together, absolutely.

Sims is stronger this season and held his own in the paint against a much bigger UNC squad. It just doesn't make sense to me to play a traditional big on the offensive side with those two guards in. The need the lane to be open so they can get to the basket or penetrate and kick.

He may have, but there was also a bigger guy on the court than him. No way on earth he can play the 5, we'd get slaughtered in the paint. We're already playing a 4 guard set and have been moving the 5 to the top of the key to open the paint. You may see it as a good idea, but I can't picture McGrath coming to the same conclusion(except he probably gets his ideas here, as well as the guys hearing about transferring here).

You have a valid point, and I definitely get it. Just a thought on something I would like to see them try. With us being a smaller team this season, I don't think it's unfathomable to see them play Sims at the 5.
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(11-10-2019 08:50 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  The immature internet bullying on this board is laughable.

You talkin' to me? YOU TALKIN' TO ME?

geez man, it's a message board. Discuss, oppose, agree, debate, argue, whatever. "Internet bullying"? c'mon.
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Boggs is solid. We have a good freshman class for sure. Boggs and Sims out there at the same time is growing on me.
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(11-10-2019 09:32 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  No Hawking you could never be wrong.
..almost never
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(11-11-2019 01:33 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:32 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  No Hawking you could never be wrong.
..almost never

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(11-11-2019 06:59 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 01:33 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(11-10-2019 09:32 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  No Hawking you could never be wrong.
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Not sure how we could have a "small ball" lineup when we already run with 4 guards, but in an instance where neither Linssen nor Dodd are on the floor, my top pick to play the 5 would be Boggs. No, he's not a big dude but he has length and has a nose for the rim on boards and put-backs.

Plus I don't think I've seen him take a jump shot yet, so that would be the ideal spot for him on the court, surrounded by shooters.
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We may be small overall, but we did a better job rebounding against UNC than Notre Dame did. And we have the bench to keep us fresh all game. I will say that, after the Johnson and Wales game, I walked away with a lot of concerns. But, after a 16 point loss to UNC, I walked away impressed with the energy of this team. They never looked intimidated at any time. I was more impressed with the defense that looked much improved. And, even though we shot poorly against the Heels, we created plenty of open shots. I believe the shooting will get much better. We now have a guy who can play with his back to the basket. We have guys who can penetrate and score. Kai's three ball is looking much better. And when his 10-12 foot shots start dropping, he will be even harder to handle. He's working hard on his D. And I see that getting better also. We basically only had one point guard last year and we tired him out in games. Now we have three legitimate PG's. I still see Kai as our number one point. But he has help to share that position and keep him fresh, without losing a beat. I like our freshman class. And I think they are ahead of most freshman classes we have had. Dodd, even though he is not as tall as some of us would like, he will become a beast. He's ahead of Cacock as a freshman. And, even though I don't expect him to grow in leaps and bounds like Devonte did, he will still have a very good career at the Dub. So, like I said, I am more encouraged about this team with the loss, than I was with the win. I think the next two games will tell us much more about where this team is going.
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(11-11-2019 08:39 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Not sure how we could have a "small ball" lineup when we already run with 4 guards, but in an instance where neither Linssen nor Dodd are on the floor, my top pick to play the 5 would be Boggs. No, he's not a big dude but he has length and has a nose for the rim on boards and put-backs.

Plus I don't think I've seen him take a jump shot yet, so that would be the ideal spot for him on the court, surrounded by shooters.


We played without Dodd or Linssen on the court against UNC quite a bit. But, we had Boggs or Bowen out there. I actually thought Bowen did alright considering. It's funny to think of us playing "smaller ball" when we already are. And I agree, Boggs could easily take over the 4 spot as a starter as we progress, and move Sims to the 3.
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(11-11-2019 11:27 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We played without Dodd or Linssen on the court against UNC quite a bit. But, we had Boggs or Bowen out there. I actually thought Bowen did alright considering. It's funny to think of us playing "smaller ball" when we already are. And I agree, Boggs could easily take over the 4 spot as a starter as we progress, and move Sims to the 3.

True on the bold, but if I'm not mistaken, that was out of necessity and not the gameplan; I believe Linssen and Dodd were in foul trouble at the time. I imagine C.B. is going to want one of those 2 on the court at all times where possible.
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(11-11-2019 09:17 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  We may be small overall, but we did a better job rebounding against UNC than Notre Dame did. And we have the bench to keep us fresh all game. I will say that, after the Johnson and Wales game, I walked away with a lot of concerns. But, after a 16 point loss to UNC, I walked away impressed with the energy of this team. They never looked intimidated at any time. I was more impressed with the defense that looked much improved. And, even though we shot poorly against the Heels, we created plenty of open shots. I believe the shooting will get much better. We now have a guy who can play with his back to the basket. We have guys who can penetrate and score. Kai's three ball is looking much better. And when his 10-12 foot shots start dropping, he will be even harder to handle. He's working hard on his D. And I see that getting better also. We basically only had one point guard last year and we tired him out in games. Now we have three legitimate PG's. I still see Kai as our number one point. But he has help to share that position and keep him fresh, without losing a beat. I like our freshman class. And I think they are ahead of most freshman classes we have had. Dodd, even though he is not as tall as some of us would like, he will become a beast. He's ahead of Cacock as a freshman. And, even though I don't expect him to grow in leaps and bounds like Devonte did, he will still have a very good career at the Dub. So, like I said, I am more encouraged about this team with the loss, than I was with the win. I think the next two games will tell us much more about where this team is going.
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My only concern about the UNC game is that I never felt like they were playing their hardest. I don't think they ever really felt a threat of losing, and we aren't a conference foe, so it's hard to compare to ND. They were our superbowl, but not the reverse. I agree that the next few games will be a better baramoter. The most import game will be Davidson. They are a notch above but not so far above they can dismiss us and still win. They are always competitive and will be a tough out. If we could somehow come out of there with the W, i'd put on my teal colored glasses and go all-in on this team. We have yet to beat a team we shouldn't in the McGrath era(except Hofstra final home game). This would be the time to do it.
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(11-11-2019 11:29 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(11-11-2019 11:27 AM)82hawk Wrote:  We played without Dodd or Linssen on the court against UNC quite a bit. But, we had Boggs or Bowen out there. I actually thought Bowen did alright considering. It's funny to think of us playing "smaller ball" when we already are. And I agree, Boggs could easily take over the 4 spot as a starter as we progress, and move Sims to the 3.

True on the bold, but if I'm not mistaken, that was out of necessity and not the gameplan; I believe Linssen and Dodd were in foul trouble at the time. I imagine C.B. is going to want one of those 2 on the court at all times where possible.

You can call it neccesity because of foul trouble, but that's a coaches decision. Dodd came out with 4 and never went back in. But, McGrath felt comfortable without either in the game foul trouble or not. He could have easily let Dodd play until he fould out instead, but he didn't. We were down 20, so what we he have had to lose?
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