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CMU has also been painting scoreboards with big numbers as well. They are big and fast in the WR group.

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(11-06-2019 09:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  It's been three years that this DC hasn't been able to
figure out how to stop a mobile QB. Allowing conversions 3rd and 17 -ridiculous. Buffalo will destroy UT, unless some changes are made in the scheme. The Bulls have a good Offense and Defense. The Rockets' D problems are not the personnel.

So will Candel fire his good freind the D Coordinator?
If not, Candel deserves to be fired..
The D Coordinator is a joke.... Fire him NOW
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(11-06-2019 03:23 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Buffalo is on a winning streak, and so could we when we play them. They got run over by Liberty and Miami OH. Let's not act like they're world beaters. We may matchup not great, but still. We have one common opponent with them and it's EMU who we did dominate for a half, And played in a monsoon.

UB also has a short week before us. Their game vs. KSU will show us more.

Sorry, I have no confidence in our defense right now. Buffalo can run the ball well and we have trouble with teams getting huge gains on the ground.
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(11-06-2019 10:55 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  The O Line broke down on pass protection in some critical situations against Kent, just like they did the previous 3 games. Too much pressure.

Peters looks frail. IMO he can't throw the long ball.

Northern Illinois is probably our best chance for a 7th win. Got to get to that number so that Candle can get his bonus.

(11-06-2019 12:37 PM)FtLauderdaleRocket Wrote:  Peters played well enough, but his arm is not strong enough for FBS football. Example, the Rockets had the ball on their own 45 yard line with 5 seconds left on the clock before the half. Instead of attempting a Hail Mary to try and put some points on the board coach decided to run out the clock. Why??? Why not TRY to get something, anything!!! It is a free play!!! My guess, Peters can't throw the ball 55 yards.

Defensively, how did they do NOTHING to stop the QB from running. He was faster than he looks, but he is not Lamar Jackson out there. When the QB runs like that you have to make him pay by hitting him HARD!!!! Nothing illegal, but you have to CRUSH him so the next time he'll think twice about running. The defense couldn't tackle the guy, let alone hit him. Sad.

The running game looked good again but the RB's need to practice a little bit of patience on their way to the LOS, a few times they ran inside the block when an outside cut would have netted way more yardage.

(11-06-2019 05:05 PM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  It's been three years that this DC hasn't been able to
figure out how to stop a mobile QB. Allowing conversions 3rd and 17 -ridiculous. Buffalo will destroy UT, unless some changes are made in the scheme. The Bulls have a good Offense and Defense. The Rockets' D problems are not the personnel.

If the DC hasn’t figured out how to scheme against the RPO / mobile QB in general over the last three off seasons, he won’t be able to figure it out over the next couple weeks. I agree with you that we have more than enough talent on D to be much better. It, without question in my mind, is a direct reflection of poor coaching of fundamentals and defensive scheme. I could not believe how many missed tackles there were last night, especially on the QB. Both he and the QB from BG were tall lumbering guys with not a lot of speed or wiggle when they run, but we just continually take horrible angles and miss tackles that just should be missed. I think overall, is what makes this team so unwatchable and frustrating. We just play so soft and undisciplined Defense. Offensively, we have had are ups and downs but consistently our D just flat out sucks and its like this game after game year after year.

(11-06-2019 07:58 PM)magoo Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  It's been three years that this DC hasn't been able to
figure out how to stop a mobile QB. Allowing conversions 3rd and 17 -ridiculous. Buffalo will destroy UT, unless some changes are made in the scheme. The Bulls have a good Offense and Defense. The Rockets' D problems are not the personnel.

So will Candel fire his good freind the D Coordinator?
If not, Candel deserves to be fired..
The D Coordinator is a joke.... Fire him NOW

I agree that Peters is a little on the frail side, but he is all we have or had. He did throw one like 30 yards down the sidelines, right down the chimney to Mitchell, who let it go through his hands. The o-line is not great in pass protection. The whole defense vs the the RPO/running qb is the biggest mystery to me. They have been running the bend don't break defensive garbage since Beckman, which may have made sense when the majority of MAC schools ran a traditional spread offense (Except NIU), but it obviously sucks against the RPO/running quarterback. Hell, it even sucks against non-running quarterbacks. BGSU's and Kent St's QB ran with the speed of a dump truck, and our defense made them look like Russell Wilson. At the beginning of the year, Candle spoke about how he simplified the duties of the defensive coaching staff to focus on the fundamentals and improve the defense. He stated how firing the defensive coordinator would have been the easy way out. After a few weeks, he began repeating how Toledo is the youngest team in the league. Fine, but it shouldn't take 10 years to figure it out. How obvious does it have to be, before a coaching staff decides to change defensive strategies? Again, Toledo should be beating teams like Kent by 30 based on talent alone. CMU is winning with much less talent. Win the MAC next season or pack it up. He has the keys to the MAC equivalent of a Formula 1 car, and he's driving it around the track like an alcoholic in a demolition derby.
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Morgan State game—maybe not the greatest peripherals, but zero points is zero points…first shutout in 18 (?) years for The Rockets?

Colorado state game—kept them out of the end zone on last CSU drive.

BYU game—we turn the ball over at the end of a run that would’ve placed us squarely in GW FG range. Defense gets the ball back one play later, then kept BYU out of end zone on next possession.

Western game: held Bellamy to 70 rush yards (39 came on a single play). Bellamy had 157 against Ball St. yesterday. Stopped WMU on downs on final drive.

Eastern game: turnover gives EMU ball in UT territory. One 1st down would’ve allowed them to run clock down to :02 and kick a chip shot for the win. They did not get the first down, and missed FG. Also kept them out of end zone in OT.

Kent game: stuffed the potential game tying 2pt try.

So yeah, the constant big chunk plays allowed drive me nuts too, but the defense has also stepped up many times this year to make game saving or game winning plays when we needed it the most. I’m probably more concerned about the fact that we can’t throw, run routes, or punt the football. Fortunately, nobody in The Mac is perfect this year…or anywhere close.
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If you watch other MAC Games like last night WMU vs. BSU and tonight Miami vs. Ohio, they all have the same problems. Give up big chunks of yardage because of porous defense. We aren't exclusive. The 1st quarter last night was the best I've seen our defense play all year. We have to make adjustments so we can stop giving up big leads. In any event, GO ROCKETS !!!
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(11-06-2019 11:16 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  Morgan State game—maybe not the greatest peripherals, but zero points is zero points…first shutout in 18 (?) years for The Rockets?

Colorado state game—kept them out of the end zone on last CSU drive.

BYU game—we turn the ball over at the end of a run that would’ve placed us squarely in GW FG range. Defense gets the ball back one play later, then kept BYU out of end zone on next possession.

Western game: held Bellamy to 70 rush yards (39 came on a single play). Bellamy had 157 against Ball St. yesterday. Stopped WMU on downs on final drive.

Eastern game: turnover gives EMU ball in UT territory. One 1st down would’ve allowed them to run clock down to :02 and kick a chip shot for the win. They did not get the first down, and missed FG. Also kept them out of end zone in OT.

Kent game: stuffed the potential game tying 2pt try.

So yeah, the constant big chunk plays allowed drive me nuts too, but the defense has also stepped up many times this year to make game saving or game winning plays when we needed it the most. I’m probably more concerned about the fact that we can’t throw, run routes, or punt the football. Fortunately, nobody in The Mac is perfect this year…or anywhere close.

UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
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(11-06-2019 11:16 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  Morgan State game—maybe not the greatest peripherals, but zero points is zero points…first shutout in 18 (?) years for The Rockets?

Colorado state game—kept them out of the end zone on last CSU drive.

BYU game—we turn the ball over at the end of a run that would’ve placed us squarely in GW FG range. Defense gets the ball back one play later, then kept BYU out of end zone on next possession.

Western game: held Bellamy to 70 rush yards (39 came on a single play). Bellamy had 157 against Ball St. yesterday. Stopped WMU on downs on final drive.

Eastern game: turnover gives EMU ball in UT territory. One 1st down would’ve allowed them to run clock down to :02 and kick a chip shot for the win. They did not get the first down, and missed FG. Also kept them out of end zone in OT.

Kent game: stuffed the potential game tying 2pt try.

So yeah, the constant big chunk plays allowed drive me nuts too, but the defense has also stepped up many times this year to make game saving or game winning plays when we needed it the most. I’m probably more concerned about the fact that we can’t throw, run routes, or punt the football. Fortunately, nobody in The Mac is perfect this year…or anywhere close.

I've seen us play some stout defense. What's frustrating is having a 21 point lead heading to the 4th quarter and then having the game go into overtime. We stopped a 2 point conversion, but on that same possession we had them 3rd and 17. Opponents consistently score above their average against us. We just can't seem to force a turnover. Worst of all is the tackling. So many times we've had the qb or rb tackled for a loss and they seem to break away for a big gain. It just kills me.
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Kent has some good athletes and will win their share of games in the future if their coach(Sean Lewis) sticks around...
Granted, Toledo did self-destruct a number of times, keeping the score a bit closer then it should have been...
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(11-07-2019 12:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
Eh…FCS games are pass/fail anyway. Nobody remembers that the 2000 Rockets team who won in Happy Valley came home and was five yards away from losing to Eastern Illinois two weeks later. It’s widely known that the result in that game was a win, though.

I’m mad that it seems the only way we could get a 7pm Saturday kickoff at The Glass Bowl anymore is to play an FCS team 03-banghead. I mean we’re playing freaking Tulsa under the lights and the GB was electric.
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(11-07-2019 12:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
Eh…FCS games are pass/fail anyway. Nobody remembers that the 2000 Rockets team who won in Happy Valley came home and was five yards away from losing to Eastern Illinois two weeks later. It’s widely known that the result in that game was a win, though.

I’m mad that it seems the only way we could get a 7pm Saturday kickoff at The Glass Bowl anymore is to play an FCS team 03-banghead. I mean we’re playing freaking Tulsa under the lights and the GB was electric.

Some guy named Tony Romo was EIU's QB.
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(11-07-2019 07:16 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 06:33 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
Eh…FCS games are pass/fail anyway. Nobody remembers that the 2000 Rockets team who won in Happy Valley came home and was five yards away from losing to Eastern Illinois two weeks later. It’s widely known that the result in that game was a win, though.

I’m mad that it seems the only way we could get a 7pm Saturday kickoff at The Glass Bowl anymore is to play an FCS team 03-banghead. I mean we’re playing freaking Tulsa under the lights and the GB was electric.

Some guy named Tony Romo was EIU's QB.

We saw better QBs in the MAC in those seasons! Romo won like 2 playoff games ever! Garbage 03-drunk

03-lmfao Man if only the 30some thousand there knew what a stud he would become.
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(11-07-2019 08:57 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 07:16 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 06:33 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
Eh…FCS games are pass/fail anyway. Nobody remembers that the 2000 Rockets team who won in Happy Valley came home and was five yards away from losing to Eastern Illinois two weeks later. It’s widely known that the result in that game was a win, though.

I’m mad that it seems the only way we could get a 7pm Saturday kickoff at The Glass Bowl anymore is to play an FCS team 03-banghead. I mean we’re playing freaking Tulsa under the lights and the GB was electric.

Some guy named Tony Romo was EIU's QB.

We saw better QBs in the MAC in those seasons! Romo won like 2 playoff games ever! Garbage 03-drunk

03-lmfao Man if only the 30some thousand there knew what a stud he would become.

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(11-07-2019 09:09 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 08:57 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 07:16 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 06:33 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  
(11-07-2019 12:24 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  UT Martin 40 Murray St 7
Eh…FCS games are pass/fail anyway. Nobody remembers that the 2000 Rockets team who won in Happy Valley came home and was five yards away from losing to Eastern Illinois two weeks later. It’s widely known that the result in that game was a win, though.

I’m mad that it seems the only way we could get a 7pm Saturday kickoff at The Glass Bowl anymore is to play an FCS team 03-banghead. I mean we’re playing freaking Tulsa under the lights and the GB was electric.

Some guy named Tony Romo was EIU's QB.

We saw better QBs in the MAC in those seasons! Romo won like 2 playoff games ever! Garbage 03-drunk

03-lmfao Man if only the 30some thousand there knew what a stud he would become.

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(11-06-2019 07:58 PM)magoo Wrote:  
(11-06-2019 09:45 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  It's been three years that this DC hasn't been able to
figure out how to stop a mobile QB. Allowing conversions 3rd and 17 -ridiculous. Buffalo will destroy UT, unless some changes are made in the scheme. The Bulls have a good Offense and Defense. The Rockets' D problems are not the personnel.

So will Candel fire his good freind the D Coordinator?
If not, Candel deserves to be fired..
The D Coordinator is a joke.... Fire him NOW

Candle, switch the L and the E....
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(11-06-2019 11:16 PM)therockets046 Wrote:  Morgan State game—maybe not the greatest peripherals, but zero points is zero points…first shutout in 18 (?) years for The Rockets?

Colorado state game—kept them out of the end zone on last CSU drive.

BYU game—we turn the ball over at the end of a run that would’ve placed us squarely in GW FG range. Defense gets the ball back one play later, then kept BYU out of end zone on next possession.

Western game: held Bellamy to 70 rush yards (39 came on a single play). Bellamy had 157 against Ball St. yesterday. Stopped WMU on downs on final drive.

Eastern game: turnover gives EMU ball in UT territory. One 1st down would’ve allowed them to run clock down to :02 and kick a chip shot for the win. They did not get the first down, and missed FG. Also kept them out of end zone in OT.

Kent game: stuffed the potential game tying 2pt try.

So yeah, the constant big chunk plays allowed drive me nuts too, but the defense has also stepped up many times this year to make game saving or game winning plays when we needed it the most. I’m probably more concerned about the fact that we can’t throw, run routes, or punt the football. Fortunately, nobody in The Mac is perfect this year…or anywhere close.

Toledo played Murray State from Kentucky
BGSUcks played Morgan State from Maryland...…..
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(11-06-2019 11:31 PM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  If you watch other MAC Games like last night WMU vs. BSU and tonight Miami vs. Ohio, they all have the same problems. Give up big chunks of yardage because of porous defense. We aren't exclusive. The 1st quarter last night was the best I've seen our defense play all year. We have to make adjustments so we can stop giving up big leads. In any event, GO ROCKETS !!!

This coaching staff doesn't make adjustments. We get out coached in every second half. Its pitiful! The D coordinator needs to go. NOW
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