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FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

(11-04-2019 04:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

That is surprising that boosters, er uh, donors could possibly raise that much money. I didn't think people cared enough to throw any significant amount of money toward influencing college sports programs. One thing we know...ain't no car dealership groups in that donor list...

(11-04-2019 09:46 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

That is surprising that boosters, er uh, donors could possibly raise that much money. I didn't think people cared enough to throw any significant amount of money toward influencing college sports programs. One thing we know...ain't no car dealership groups in that donor list...

You missed the part where I, along with about 10 other people on here, have said there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around already and FSU is definitely one of them, but good on you for still trying to beat that dead horse.

Firing Taggert in the middle of his second season is insane to me. It's like FSU didn't understand who they were hiring. Did they not follow his start at USF at all? Not sure what it is about his coaching style, but his transitions seem to see bigger step backs before going forward. They were making measurable progress by most metrics this year, despite not having the season they wanted. If they weren't going to be patient at all they hired the wrong guy and gave him an unbelievably ridiculous buyout.

Lady in my office heads up the Florida State alumni group in Cincinnati. She was telling me last year there was consideration for giving him the axe. The results were just unacceptable by FSU standards. I figured she just didn't know what she was talking about but perhaps she did.

(11-04-2019 11:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Lady in my office heads up the Florida State alumni group in Cincinnati. She was telling me last year there was consideration for giving him the axe. The results were just unacceptable by FSU standards. I figured she just didn't know what she was talking about but perhaps she did.

Meanwhile, all of my Oregon buddies are absolutely delighted with how the Taggart debacle worked out.

I think Florida State is delusional. They're not a big time power program. They had no histrory before Bowden and Jimbo won a national title and they grew dissatisfied with him shortly after. Not saying they shouldn't be better but they're not one of these mega programs that should be throwing around almost $20 million buyouts after less than 2 years. I think they have a tough time getting they type of replacement they think they can attract.

(11-04-2019 11:17 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Firing Taggert in the middle of his second season is insane to me. It's like FSU didn't understand who they were hiring. Did they not follow his start at USF at all? Not sure what it is about his coaching style, but his transitions seem to see bigger step backs before going forward. They were making measurable progress by most metrics this year, despite not having the season they wanted. If they weren't going to be patient at all they hired the wrong guy and gave him an unbelievably ridiculous buyout.

I don't know what he inherited but inclined to agree with you.
At USF he was 2-10, 4-8, 8-5, 11-2 (he didn't coach the bowl game).
WKU 2-10, 7-5,7-5.
Besides that IDK anything about him.

(11-04-2019 10:21 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 09:46 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

That is surprising that boosters, er uh, donors could possibly raise that much money. I didn't think people cared enough to throw any significant amount of money toward influencing college sports programs. One thing we know...ain't no car dealership groups in that donor list...

You missed the part where I, along with about 10 other people on here, have said there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around already and FSU is definitely one of them, but good on you for still trying to beat that dead horse.

You're finally right...I missed the part where about 10 other people agreed that there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around.

You may know more about FSU than I do...what makes them so different from at least half the schools in the P5?

(11-05-2019 02:52 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 10:21 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 09:46 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

That is surprising that boosters, er uh, donors could possibly raise that much money. I didn't think people cared enough to throw any significant amount of money toward influencing college sports programs. One thing we know...ain't no car dealership groups in that donor list...

You missed the part where I, along with about 10 other people on here, have said there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around already and FSU is definitely one of them, but good on you for still trying to beat that dead horse.

You're finally right...I missed the part where about 10 other people agreed that there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around.

You may know more about FSU than I do...what makes them so different from at least half the schools in the P5?

Their athletics department brought in over $55m in contributions last year...only 5 ADs had more and only 14 had more than $30m total. What you're suggesting is that they're not raising all of the dollars they could, or that those dollars would be reallocated to bringing in recruits from ADs that need that money to be the only departments in the could try who break even.

Again, keep trying to beat a horse that's two hoofs in the glue factory now.

(11-06-2019 07:34 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-05-2019 02:52 PM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 10:21 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 09:46 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2019 04:20 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  FSU raises 20 million in private donations last week to not only pay for the buyout but to pay remaining dead money from Taggert’s last 2 buyouts.

That dude hit the lottery.

That is surprising that boosters, er uh, donors could possibly raise that much money. I didn't think people cared enough to throw any significant amount of money toward influencing college sports programs. One thing we know...ain't no car dealership groups in that donor list...

You missed the part where I, along with about 10 other people on here, have said there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around already and FSU is definitely one of them, but good on you for still trying to beat that dead horse.

You're finally right...I missed the part where about 10 other people agreed that there are 15-20 programs who have that much money floating around.

You may know more about FSU than I do...what makes them so different from at least half the schools in the P5?

Their athletics department brought in over $55m in contributions last year...only 5 ADs had more and only 14 had more than $30m total. What you're suggesting is that they're not raising all of the dollars they could, or that those dollars would be reallocated to bringing in recruits from ADs that need that money to be the only departments in the could try who break even.

Again, keep trying to beat a horse that's two hoofs in the glue factory now.

What I am suggesting is that there is a lot of stupid money laying around and a fair number of P5 schools (and a few non) have rich donor bases that might be inclined to spend it if the need was there and the impact could be seen on the field or court. So effectively, yes to the former. At the risk of giving you an example...I'm not inclined to give UC more money right now even though they are in the red. However, I might be inclined to pay (if I could) to get the missing piece for our basketball team that could spell the difference between losing in the second round and making a final four.

But hey, I'm starting to feel guilty about this horse, so you take the last word cause the owner says I need to cut my Bearcat Banter browsing back from six hours a day to four.

Sources: Rutgers meets with ex-coach Greg Schiano about coaching vacancy


Supposedly they have a "very short list" and it sounds like Schiano is playing a bit hard to get...

(11-06-2019 08:49 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Sources: Rutgers meets with ex-coach Greg Schiano about coaching vacancy


Supposedly they have a "very short list" and it sounds like Schiano is playing a bit hard to get...

Bad hire. Schiano is grade A trash. Worst coordinator Urban ever hired.

I don’t know why Rutgers keeps hiring these half a$$ big names. They need to just go the route of a top level C-USA, MAC, Sunbelt coach. I don’t think any American coach would want to go there, but if so then American.

(11-02-2019 12:01 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  Chop the rope! Pull the wood!

Lmao this is exactly what I was thinking

I can hear Schiano on the recruiting trail now...

“I got Rutgers to a great season 13 years ago after I allegedly covered up child rape...”

We all know Rutgers is a disaster. Sit back and enjoy it.

With all the Big 14 money be bold and offer Urbie $10 million.

It is official Chad Morris is out at Arkansas.

(11-10-2019 12:01 PM)Nobones Wrote:  It is official Chad Morris is out at Arkansas.

Details are a bit sketchy but it looks like they owe him a little over $12M as a buyout. Plus they reportedly already owed their previous coach Bielema $12M although that is being contested.

I'd imagine Memphis' Norvell is near the top of their list but I wonder if they can afford him and if he'd want it.

(11-10-2019 12:39 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(11-10-2019 12:01 PM)Nobones Wrote:  It is official Chad Morris is out at Arkansas.

Details are a bit sketchy but it looks like they owe him a little over $12M as a buyout. Plus they reportedly already owed their previous coach Bielema $12M although that is being contested.

I'd imagine Memphis' Norvell is near the top of their list but I wonder if they can afford him and if he'd want it.

Norvell is going to be in high demand for much better gigs.

It is amazing to me that programs can pay these type of amounts...not just to one coach, but sometimes multiple coaches at a time...just NOT to coach at their program. I used to think Notre Dame was crazy to be paying Tyrone Willingham and Charlie Weiss at the same time, but it turns out that they were just ahead of their time.

I have to wonder who would be that desperate or crazy to think that they can step into a situation like Florida State or Arkansas and succeed right away with those nutso boosters breathing down their neck. Used to be that you got basically a guaranteed "recruiting cycle" (3-4 years) to either succeed or fail; it was just too costly to be paying contracts for coaches after termination. Now you get (maybe) a season to win...and in the SEC, let's face it, that's a tall order...and then the villagers come armed with the pitch-forks and torches.

Granted, Chad Morris will get a nice payoff and is young enough to drop down to a CUSA/AAC type gig if he wants to get back in the saddle right away, or take a cushy position coach job for a year or two at 'Bama or Clemson or some other such program to pad his resume. But still, it's just brutal now that people are willing to throw away $10+ Million plus just to get rid of a coach after a year or two.