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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-04-2020 10:59 PM)mlb Wrote: Terrible decision to play Dayton. Top 5 team, best college player.
Spike the ball, brother!
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(10-26-2019 01:55 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote: (10-25-2019 03:52 PM)mlb Wrote:
Dayton is expected to be pretty good this year, and Obi Toppin is going to be one of the most athletic players UC sees this year. He'll likely be drafted next year. I think it's a great choice.
Love Obi, but I will bet you hot fudge sunday he won't be drafted. He is not as tall as UD lists him. More importantly, although he is only a sophomore, he will turn 22 before the season ends.
P.s. UD might have as much talent as UC.
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I'm waiting on that hot fudge Sunday. He's a lottery pick, lol.
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-05-2020 08:15 AM)OKIcat Wrote: (03-05-2020 07:54 AM)coachpipe Wrote: (01-16-2020 03:26 PM)vabearcat Wrote: Anyone who thinks Dayton has had more success than UC over the last ten years in college basketball is either an unabashed UD homer or does not understand college basketball. Nine consecutive NCAA tournament appearances, not to mention conference championships and tournament championships, first-team All-Americans (SK), numerous Top 10, Top 20 and Top 25 appearances, etc. certainly trump the one UD run under Archie.
Over the 10 years UC has an all american. not plural. And Obi is about to top that and be national player of the year. Daytons elite 8 run managing to beat OSU...something we havent done since way before i was born, not to mention what they have done this year plus the massive mick cronin collapse of nevada....Yea. Im going Dayton more success here.
Making the tournament is great, but if you dont get out of the first round....were you even there?
And Dayton's (truly) amazing one season run means their coach will be the most marketable nationally come April when desperate major seven conference programs open their checkbooks. Does Dayton have the ability to, or the will to, match dollars? Recent past history (Archie Miller, Brian Gregory) suggests they will not.
honestly. I think it depends on how far they go in March. If Mick had made a final 4 or an elite 8 I dont think he leaves. But his teams flopped in march and he needed to blame it on something other than himself. So he blamed in on the plane, the arena, the practice gym, the conference and.....Not having 4 letters on his jersey
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-05-2020 08:26 AM)mlb Wrote: (10-26-2019 01:55 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote: (10-25-2019 03:52 PM)mlb Wrote: Dayton is expected to be pretty good this year, and Obi Toppin is going to be one of the most athletic players UC sees this year. He'll likely be drafted next year. I think it's a great choice.
Love Obi, but I will bet you hot fudge sunday he won't be drafted. He is not as tall as UD lists him. More importantly, although he is only a sophomore, he will turn 22 before the season ends.
P.s. UD might have as much talent as UC.
I'm waiting on that hot fudge Sunday. He's a lottery pick, lol.
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Yiiiiiiiiiiiikes
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-05-2020 08:26 AM)mlb Wrote: (10-26-2019 01:55 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote: (10-25-2019 03:52 PM)mlb Wrote: Dayton is expected to be pretty good this year, and Obi Toppin is going to be one of the most athletic players UC sees this year. He'll likely be drafted next year. I think it's a great choice.
Love Obi, but I will bet you hot fudge sunday he won't be drafted. He is not as tall as UD lists him. More importantly, although he is only a sophomore, he will turn 22 before the season ends.
P.s. UD might have as much talent as UC.
I'm waiting on that hot fudge Sunday. He's a lottery pick, lol.
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Is Romell off his timeout? Might be worth bringing him back for this post.
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-05-2020 09:57 AM)coachpipe Wrote: (03-05-2020 08:15 AM)OKIcat Wrote: (03-05-2020 07:54 AM)coachpipe Wrote: (01-16-2020 03:26 PM)vabearcat Wrote: Anyone who thinks Dayton has had more success than UC over the last ten years in college basketball is either an unabashed UD homer or does not understand college basketball. Nine consecutive NCAA tournament appearances, not to mention conference championships and tournament championships, first-team All-Americans (SK), numerous Top 10, Top 20 and Top 25 appearances, etc. certainly trump the one UD run under Archie.
Over the 10 years UC has an all american. not plural. And Obi is about to top that and be national player of the year. Daytons elite 8 run managing to beat OSU...something we havent done since way before i was born, not to mention what they have done this year plus the massive mick cronin collapse of nevada....Yea. Im going Dayton more success here.
Making the tournament is great, but if you dont get out of the first round....were you even there?
And Dayton's (truly) amazing one season run means their coach will be the most marketable nationally come April when desperate major seven conference programs open their checkbooks. Does Dayton have the ability to, or the will to, match dollars? Recent past history (Archie Miller, Brian Gregory) suggests they will not.
honestly. I think it depends on how far they go in March. If Mick had made a final 4 or an elite 8 I dont think he leaves. But his teams flopped in march and he needed to blame it on something other than himself. So he blamed in on the plane, the arena, the practice gym, the conference and.....Not having 4 letters on his jersey
He blamed it on the UC brand, like the worthless residue he is. He held the program back the entire time he was here.
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-05-2020 11:26 AM)converrl Wrote: (03-05-2020 09:57 AM)coachpipe Wrote: (03-05-2020 08:15 AM)OKIcat Wrote: (03-05-2020 07:54 AM)coachpipe Wrote: (01-16-2020 03:26 PM)vabearcat Wrote: Anyone who thinks Dayton has had more success than UC over the last ten years in college basketball is either an unabashed UD homer or does not understand college basketball. Nine consecutive NCAA tournament appearances, not to mention conference championships and tournament championships, first-team All-Americans (SK), numerous Top 10, Top 20 and Top 25 appearances, etc. certainly trump the one UD run under Archie.
Over the 10 years UC has an all american. not plural. And Obi is about to top that and be national player of the year. Daytons elite 8 run managing to beat OSU...something we havent done since way before i was born, not to mention what they have done this year plus the massive mick cronin collapse of nevada....Yea. Im going Dayton more success here.
Making the tournament is great, but if you dont get out of the first round....were you even there?
And Dayton's (truly) amazing one season run means their coach will be the most marketable nationally come April when desperate major seven conference programs open their checkbooks. Does Dayton have the ability to, or the will to, match dollars? Recent past history (Archie Miller, Brian Gregory) suggests they will not.
honestly. I think it depends on how far they go in March. If Mick had made a final 4 or an elite 8 I dont think he leaves. But his teams flopped in march and he needed to blame it on something other than himself. So he blamed in on the plane, the arena, the practice gym, the conference and.....Not having 4 letters on his jersey
He blamed it on the UC brand, like the worthless residue he is. He held the program back the entire time he was here.
Look, I'm not here to defend the midget of westwood, but...
you do remember what the program looked like when he got here? He had one player. We could have easily gone the way of Houston or Georgetown in the "they used to be good, whatever happened to them?" category.
But to his credit, he got us back to a high level and did it relatively quick too to the point where people don't even remember those couple of down years.
That said, it did get old losing in the first weekend every year and I'm glad that the little spud is gone. But come on, lets be at least a little fair here.
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
Should we call him Mini Mick?
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"Secret"Scrimmage
Let's call Mick what he is:
Capable and willing to pull UC up out of the mire of the Huggins departure
Capable and willing to field a competitive team in the Big East
Capable of sustained modest success
Incapable / unwilling to cope with the changes in conference affiliation and increased competition from the AAC newcomers
It was time to move on. Hopefully for his sake his new employees give him as much leeway as he had here.
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RE: "Secret"Scrimmage
(03-06-2020 01:39 PM)crex043 Wrote: Let's call Mick what he is:
Capable and willing to pull UC up out of the mire of the Huggins departure
Capable and willing to field a competitive team in the Big East
Capable of sustained modest success
Incapable / unwilling to cope with the changes in conference affiliation and increased competition from the AAC newcomers
It was time to move on. Hopefully for his sake his new employees give him as much leeway as he had here.
Yeah I think this is fair. I think his career was on a great trajectory and then when the BE started to blow up and we weren't addressing our facilities he didn't think he could compete for great players anymore. His best classes were early in his tenure here with Cash, Yancy, SK.
I think for a little while with the uncertainty it may have been TEMPORARILY the right thing to do but when he got that facilities we needed and the American stabilized as a solid conference he needed to start competing for high level recruits again and showed no willingness to do it. He stubbornly continued to recruit flawed developmental prospects and was really good into making decent teams out of these but the developmental guys need to be supplements to getting good high end recruits. For some reason after JC he just didn't put any effort into it.
If this change re-energizes his recruiting then I could see him being successful. He was good at maximizing the talent on his roster. But because he had gotten set in his ways it was in the best interests of both sides for him to move on.
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