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Ideal AAC expansion plan
Grabbing multiple schools out West is the best way to do it.


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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
Add Boise and BYU on 6-game football-only deals. They can compete in the 6-team division; with that division’s winner playing the winner of the 7-team division. Exactly 14 cross-division games, no waiver needed, division winners chosen by division record.

Boise is given more scheduling flexibility to schedule western teams (whether they take a full AAC share is negotiated; they make out better than in the MW). BYU would only join if AAC elevated to power status... so such a maneuver would have to be predicated on that promise by the NY6 successor.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
But any plans would have to follow P5 movement in 4-5 years. Is there a P12-B12 consolidation? Do we finally see superconferences? Does the AAC’s push toward divisionless conferences open the door for their own poaching? If the AAC acts quickly they could capitalize on any realignment... but I’m not sure how to best position itself before then? maybe the P6 campaign is their best move... above any expansion plans.
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(10-22-2019 09:43 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Add Boise and BYU on 6-game football-only deals. They can compete in the 6-team division; with that division’s winner playing the winner of the 7-team division. Exactly 14 cross-division games, no waiver needed, division winners chosen by division record.

Boise is given more scheduling flexibility to schedule western teams (whether they take a full AAC share is negotiated; they make out better than in the MW). BYU would only join if AAC elevated to power status... so such a maneuver would have to be predicated on that promise by the NY6 successor.

Two 7 team divisions with no cross division games, my proposal, is effectively a 6 game deal as you describe. The only difference is I’d give them full membership because their is no way that either takes a football only deal.

This league would be getting a de facto, rather than official P status.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-22-2019 09:48 PM)Crayton Wrote:  But any plans would have to follow P5 movement in 4-5 years. Is there a P12-B12 consolidation? Do we finally see superconferences? Does the AAC’s push toward divisionless conferences open the door for their own poaching? If the AAC acts quickly they could capitalize on any realignment... but I’m not sure how to best position itself before then? maybe the P6 campaign is their best move... above any expansion plans.

The super conference era is dependent upon Oklahoma and/or Texas. If either decides to go to the Big Ten or SEC the whole dynamic changes and the AAC schools will all be rushing to try and backfill the Big 12.

One school of thought is to stall any and all membership changes to the AAC in anticipation of that seismic shift. This would give the schools left behind a better feel for what their new footprint and goals are.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
There's no need to add anybody in basketball. The current teams are strong enough and could play a true round robin schedule with no additions.

In football, 2 possibilities are best:
  1. Add Army & Air Force in football, and with that I think BYU would be interested in a football membership. Being home to all 3 service academies might not add a great deal of football strength, but the prestige is priceless. Plus, I don't think the AAC could attract BYU without them.
  2. If that can't happen, then go for a permanent waiver. No currently available team would add enough strength to move the needle.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-22-2019 09:43 PM)Crayton Wrote:  Add Boise and BYU on 6-game football-only deals. They can compete in the 6-team division; with that division’s winner playing the winner of the 7-team division. Exactly 14 cross-division games, no waiver needed, division winners chosen by division record.

Boise is given more scheduling flexibility to schedule western teams (whether they take a full AAC share is negotiated; they make out better than in the MW). BYU would only join if AAC elevated to power status... so such a maneuver would have to be predicated on that promise by the NY6 successor.

Or, the expanded AAC would have to voluntarily withdraw from the Group of Five in the next CFP contract and hold the promise of an attractive bowl contract for its champion.

I would suggest that the expanded AAC could negotiate with the Big 12 and PAC 12 to hold a contract-bowl involving those three conferences. Something where the matchup is the highest ranked among the AAC champ and the next best available Big 12 and PAC 12 (after CFP, Sugar and Rose Bowl selections) and with a guarantee that every conference gets at least 2 appearances over 6 years. The Cotton Bowl would probably take that...or, elevate the Las Vegas Bowl to NY7 status. The AAC champion's back-up bowl pool could be the Alamo Bowl or Holiday Bowl against a solid Big 12 or PAC 12 opponent.

THAT would be a power move for the AAC. While its champion wouldn't have a guaranteed NY bowl slot every year, it would have contract-bowl access outside of the Group of Five.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-23-2019 07:03 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"

Fair points. In my defense I’ll point out I’ve been on this board a long time and rarely criticized a thread. Morever I’ve never had an issue with any thread, regardless of how repetitive, that starts with some explanation or theory about what could trigger a potential conference realignment. It’s harder though to see value in threads that just start with an assertion that Conference A should go out and grab schools from Conference B without bothering to state any rationale for why or how it could actually happen.

I could post a thread here every month telling you the Pac 12 should add Hawaii because I like the idea. But I don’t because I can’t present any currently valid rationale for how it could happen. It would just be speculation or fantasy on my part and if I kept doing it I suspect you folks would get tired of it.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
Ideally the AAC adds Nova for all sports to get back to 12 for FB and BB. Nova only has to add 2500 seats in the open end of their stadium to get to the minimum 15k seating limit and your adding them for their BB so who cares what their FB attendance is anyway. Then the AAC goes back for BYU and Army FB only in 2025 when the B-12 fails to expand. At that point if ESPN coughs up enough money, the AAC can go after G'Town and St John's to solidify the NYC and Washington / Maryland markets and regain the Garden for the Men's BB Tournament. Now that's a P6 / P5 conference. Problem solved for expansion. 02-13-banana 02-13-banana 02-13-banana COGS COGS COGS 04-cheers
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(10-23-2019 01:54 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:03 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"

Fair points. In my defense I’ll point out I’ve been on this board a long time and rarely criticized a thread. Morever I’ve never had an issue with any thread, regardless of how repetitive, that starts with some explanation or theory about what could trigger a potential conference realignment. It’s harder though to see value in threads that just start with an assertion that Conference A should go out and grab schools from Conference B without bothering to state any rationale for why or how it could actually happen.

I could post a thread here every month telling you the Pac 12 should add Hawaii because I like the idea. But I don’t because I can’t present any currently valid rationale for how it could happen. It would just be speculation or fantasy on my part and if I kept doing it I suspect you folks would get tired of it.

As the OP I feel obligated to explain why I think this makes sense to the parties involved.

The one thing all these schools want, with maybe the exception of the two academies, is P status.

De jure P status is probably not going to happen for anyone and if it does happen they will be ascending into a weakened conference on the cusp of losing its status (BE 2005-2012).

What these schools can do, within the existing structure, is position themselves to be in the very best G conference such that their conference champ always lays claim to the NY6 slot. This is de facto P status.

The 11 AAC schools are already in fairly solid shape. What they can do to increase their likelihood of locking down the G5 NY6 spot is cherry-picking the competition.

Enter stage left Boise St. They are historically the biggest challenger for that NY6 berth but they don’t get a lot of help from their conference mates as they aren’t perceived to be as good as the top AAC schools. Adding Boise to the AAC greatly improves the AAC’s chances of being in the NY6 annually. Boise also brings a lot of name recognition and that is good for the tv contract. As a western school they also bring the possibility of using some late night time slots (also adding to the attractiveness of the tv package).

BYU is a little different. They want to be national. They want to be perceived as P level like Utah. Independence sort of separates them from G status stigma but also cuts them out of the NY6. Convince them that the AAC can be both national and de facto P status and you’ve added a program that averages 60K in attendance with a huge fan base spread nationwide. BYU gains a much easier path to the NY6.

AFA has made statements expressing displeasure in the MWC. They offer a land bridge to other two western adds and as a service academy they have a broad fan base and a lot of appeal. MWC membership has really localized them to the western states, AAC status would offer a national footprint. Having Navy as a divisional opponent opens more OOC scheduling opportunities that the CiC OOC rivalries currently limit.

I think there is an appeal there for not only the AAC but all 3 expansion schools as well.

Aresco has the right idea when he tried to go national before; he just failed in the execution when the organization from BCS to Playoffs/NY6 scared the western schools away.

Aresco needs to ask the question to Boise and AFA: Is MWC membership getting you where you want to be? The same question need be asked to BYU regarding independence.
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-24-2019 08:54 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 01:54 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:03 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"

Fair points. In my defense I’ll point out I’ve been on this board a long time and rarely criticized a thread. Morever I’ve never had an issue with any thread, regardless of how repetitive, that starts with some explanation or theory about what could trigger a potential conference realignment. It’s harder though to see value in threads that just start with an assertion that Conference A should go out and grab schools from Conference B without bothering to state any rationale for why or how it could actually happen.

I could post a thread here every month telling you the Pac 12 should add Hawaii because I like the idea. But I don’t because I can’t present any currently valid rationale for how it could happen. It would just be speculation or fantasy on my part and if I kept doing it I suspect you folks would get tired of it.

As the OP I feel obligated to explain why I think this makes sense to the parties involved.

The one thing all these schools want, with maybe the exception of the two academies, is P status.

De jure P status is probably not going to happen for anyone and if it does happen they will be ascending into a weakened conference on the cusp of losing its status (BE 2005-2012).

What these schools can do, within the existing structure, is position themselves to be in the very best G conference such that their conference champ always lays claim to the NY6 slot. This is de facto P status.

The 11 AAC schools are already in fairly solid shape. What they can do to increase their likelihood of locking down the G5 NY6 spot is cherry-picking the competition.

Enter stage left Boise St. They are historically the biggest challenger for that NY6 berth but they don’t get a lot of help from their conference mates as they aren’t perceived to be as good as the top AAC schools. Adding Boise to the AAC greatly improves the AAC’s chances of being in the NY6 annually. Boise also brings a lot of name recognition and that is good for the tv contract. As a western school they also bring the possibility of using some late night time slots (also adding to the attractiveness of the tv package).

BYU is a little different. They want to be national. They want to be perceived as P level like Utah. Independence sort of separates them from G status stigma but also cuts them out of the NY6. Convince them that the AAC can be both national and de facto P status and you’ve added a program that averages 60K in attendance with a huge fan base spread nationwide. BYU gains a much easier path to the NY6.

AFA has made statements expressing displeasure in the MWC. They offer a land bridge to other two western adds and as a service academy they have a broad fan base and a lot of appeal. MWC membership has really localized them to the western states, AAC status would offer a national footprint. Having Navy as a divisional opponent opens more OOC scheduling opportunities that the CiC OOC rivalries currently limit.

I think there is an appeal there for not only the AAC but all 3 expansion schools as well.

Aresco has the right idea when he tried to go national before; he just failed in the execution when the organization from BCS to Playoffs/NY6 scared the western schools away.

Aresco needs to ask the question to Boise and AFA: Is MWC membership getting you where you want to be? The same question need be asked to BYU regarding independence.


This is the key comment:

"The 11 AAC schools are already in fairly solid shape. What they can do to increase their likelihood of locking down the G5 NY6 spot is cherry-picking the competition."
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RE: Ideal AAC expansion plan
(10-24-2019 08:54 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 01:54 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:03 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  
(10-22-2019 10:48 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  Really? Another best-of-the-rest fantasy conference thread? Haven't we had, like, a hundred of these over the past couple of years?

I don't see a shred of real evidence that BYU or any MWC team is hankering to join a three or four time zone spanning AAC. There was some kerfuffle last week after Calhoun publicly bellyached about the MWC possibly not being "really a match" for AFA just before his team had to fly seven hours to play a road game in Honolulu, but not another peep after the Falcons beat the hell out of the Warriors.

Until the offseason dead period rolls around again I would think there are better things to talk about.

It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"

Fair points. In my defense I’ll point out I’ve been on this board a long time and rarely criticized a thread. Morever I’ve never had an issue with any thread, regardless of how repetitive, that starts with some explanation or theory about what could trigger a potential conference realignment. It’s harder though to see value in threads that just start with an assertion that Conference A should go out and grab schools from Conference B without bothering to state any rationale for why or how it could actually happen.

I could post a thread here every month telling you the Pac 12 should add Hawaii because I like the idea. But I don’t because I can’t present any currently valid rationale for how it could happen. It would just be speculation or fantasy on my part and if I kept doing it I suspect you folks would get tired of it.

As the OP I feel obligated to explain why I think this makes sense to the parties involved.

The one thing all these schools want, with maybe the exception of the two academies, is P status.

De jure P status is probably not going to happen for anyone and if it does happen they will be ascending into a weakened conference on the cusp of losing its status (BE 2005-2012).

What these schools can do, within the existing structure, is position themselves to be in the very best G conference such that their conference champ always lays claim to the NY6 slot. This is de facto P status.

Getting the NY6 spot virtually every year would be nice, but in no way would it mean de facto P status.

The only thing that would mean that would be media money in the ballpark of the P conferences, as that is the great separator between P and G.

Last year, Aresco said that the new AAC media deal would be "in the P ballpark" or something like that, but of course it didn't come anywhere close to that.
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(10-24-2019 09:00 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-24-2019 08:54 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 01:54 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 07:03 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-23-2019 06:56 AM)EvilVodka Wrote:  It's called a message board

Why are you responding to a thread you don't like?

"I hate this thread, and don't think it's timely..........I'm going to say something about" 03-drunk

Yes, it's like the trolls who complain, "I'm sick of seeing all this conference realignment discussion on this conference realignment discussion forum!"

Fair points. In my defense I’ll point out I’ve been on this board a long time and rarely criticized a thread. Morever I’ve never had an issue with any thread, regardless of how repetitive, that starts with some explanation or theory about what could trigger a potential conference realignment. It’s harder though to see value in threads that just start with an assertion that Conference A should go out and grab schools from Conference B without bothering to state any rationale for why or how it could actually happen.

I could post a thread here every month telling you the Pac 12 should add Hawaii because I like the idea. But I don’t because I can’t present any currently valid rationale for how it could happen. It would just be speculation or fantasy on my part and if I kept doing it I suspect you folks would get tired of it.

As the OP I feel obligated to explain why I think this makes sense to the parties involved.

The one thing all these schools want, with maybe the exception of the two academies, is P status.

De jure P status is probably not going to happen for anyone and if it does happen they will be ascending into a weakened conference on the cusp of losing its status (BE 2005-2012).

What these schools can do, within the existing structure, is position themselves to be in the very best G conference such that their conference champ always lays claim to the NY6 slot. This is de facto P status.

Getting the NY6 spot virtually every year would be nice, but in no way would it mean de facto P status.

The only thing that would mean that would be media money in the ballpark of the P conferences, as that is the great separator between P and G.

Last year, Aresco said that the new AAC media deal would be "in the P ballpark" or something like that, but of course it didn't come anywhere close to that.


Quo, Could one not argue that having a league member in a "power bowl" — which a NY6 bowl is — essentially every year provides a conference a "component" or "element" of "de facto P status"? I would think so but maybe I'm wrong.

Obviously, the AAC is never going to be a "power league" in football with its current lineup (or, realistically, any future additions).

But to phrase "but in no way would it mean de facto P status" seems a bit extreme.

If the MWC or the American essentially lock down the NY6 bowl every year (or nine out of 10), that could perhaps lend a certain "power flavor" to either league. Not full and true P5 but an element (due to consistent participation in a major bowl). Just my thinking on it.
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From the casual football fan perspective, annual top-25 finishes for your champion and annual representation in the NY6 bowl absolutely means de facto power status. The casual fan doesn't analyze media contracts or athletic department budgets. There are more casual fans than analyzers.
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(10-24-2019 02:41 PM)YNot Wrote:  From the casual football fan perspective, annual top-25 finishes for your champion and annual representation in the NY6 bowl absolutely means de facto power status. The casual fan doesn't analyze media contracts or athletic department budgets. There are more casual fans than analyzers.
I’d posit that playoff contention is a bigger indicator of Power status than a NY6 bowl. In part this is because playoff contention has a subjective element while the committee ‘has’ to give someone the NY6 spot. A playoff spot is competing against Power teams while the G5 spot is a competition amongst mid majors.

Number of teams in the Top 25 is another subjective measure that can lend Power status to a conference; the AAC has been compared favorably to the ACC (minus Clemson) for this reason. Stick 3+ teams in the Top 25 and outrank 3+ Power teams with the same number of losses (SMU>Minnesota, Cincy/Boise>Wake) and you have yourself a Power conference.

EDIT: By those two “3+” measures it appears the ACC and PAC-12 are currently not Power conferences either. As I said, the ACC looks very much like the AAC+Clemson. Oregon may have a playoff chance at 12-1, but Clemson would likely be behind any 1-loss teams from the Power-3.
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(10-24-2019 02:41 PM)YNot Wrote:  From the casual football fan perspective, annual top-25 finishes for your champion and annual representation in the NY6 bowl absolutely means de facto power status. The casual fan doesn't analyze media contracts or athletic department budgets. There are more casual fans than analyzers.

I'm not sure a combo of both "absolutely means de facto power status" but they would suggest (as I noted in a previous post) a certain degree of "de facto power league" characterization.

A lot of this is subjective.
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(10-24-2019 02:41 PM)YNot Wrote:  From the casual football fan perspective, annual top-25 finishes for your champion and annual representation in the NY6 bowl absolutely means de facto power status. The casual fan doesn't analyze media contracts or athletic department budgets. There are more casual fans than analyzers.

When Big East 2.0 came about there were a lot of predictions that they would fall flat on their face. In fact, they did pretty good until they got raided again. But at the time, I said what they needed with Miami and VT gone was:
1) have at least one team a regular in the top 25;
2) have 3 teams regularly in the top 25, but not necessarily the same teams;
3) have 2 of those teams normally in the top 15.

They did that pretty well with WVU, Cincinnati and UL doing more than their share, but the others contributing. AAC needs to do the same thing. They are really working on #2 pretty well the last couple of seasons. As of yet on 1), UCF and/or Houston haven't become regulars. And cracking the top 15 with two teams has been tough.
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