(10-22-2019 12:26 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:49 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  The Cincy-ECU Basketball rivalry is my favorite one in all of sports.

It's funny because Cincy fans seem to be consistently the most negative about ECU hoops, despite having some real issues actually beating this horrible program. Maybe if you guys had been drubbing us by 30-50 like Houston has been doing recently I'd listen to your smack, but you literally lost the last time we played. So I dunno why exactly the only team aside from Tulane that lost to us in this league last year is the one who's fans bark the most. Maybe try winning the next time we play, since we are so horrible it really shouldn't be that difficult.

If I'm not mistaken most of the UC team had the flu leading up to and during the game. Even Cronin missed a practice or two days prior to the trip.

(10-22-2019 12:09 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:46 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:29 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:17 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:10 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  Wow. Just looked at ECU’s class last year. Not a single player is rated higher than UC’s two high school commits. And the third (from prep school) is rated on a different scale but he had an offer from ECU. Lol.

And UC’s JV staff didn’t get fully set and recruiting until April/May. LOL.

What was Jayden Gardner ranked? Not what he is ranked now in college basketball.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/05/17/n...n-2019-20/

What does that have to do with anything? You’ve basically said UC’s staff is not any good and even made a joke about them pulling in top classes when despite ECU bringing in 11 new people UC still managed to bring in significantly higher rated recruits and recruiting class. All the while this UC staff wasn’t put together until late in the game when many players had already decided where to go.

Absolute delusion.

What is delusional about the fact Dooley, Chillious, and Roccaforte are much better compared to your staff of former video coordinators, and might have a good eye for talent like Gardner for example? They beat you on a recruit with 15+ P5 offers who decommitted from Wake Forest everyone was after this spring late. I don't care what he was ranked because obviously it wasn't high enough with the kind of offers he had at that point when they beat Cincy, UConn, Duke, etc etc

You really want to compare recruiting chops of our staffs? Our guys have landed NBA players while yours were winding video, Dooley even landed a couple at FGCU inlcluding a highly touted one in Rayjon Tucker. Sure ECU comes with some inherit disadvantages compared to a program like Cincy, which makes our two staffs laughable honestly by comparison that this is what we ended up with.

Even with disadvantages the staff will go a long ways in closing that gap and landing a guys like Coleman in the future over you and others.......and it has already happened. Jeff Lebo and Micheal Perry aren't here anymore. When you have to get 11 players the most in basketball history the focus also can't be as narrow. I think you see more drilling down in the future on more specific recruits.

I wouldn't trade staffs or underclassmen with you.

So please explain to me how UC’s class was significantly higher with 8 less commits lol.

Believe what you want dude. ECU basketball has always been a joke and while they might be slightly less humorous than normal they will never come close to holding a candle to UC.

You literally don't know what the future will hold. UConn didn't think they would suck by their standards the last 5 years after winning a national title. What I do know is we got a better/proven staff going into that future with what is known now, and we got the best young player to build our future around off the two teams in Gardner.

When you sign the biggest class in college basketball history with freaking 11 players like we just did do you honestly think you can recruit as heavily on your top prospects? Obviously some of those 11 were taken just to fill out the roster which watersdown the aggregate ranking and even the guys we did get at the top we couldnt' put the same kind of full court press and concentration on we can now that we have a team of his guys and can replace a normal number in the future.

Duh. Also our top 2 or 3 like the one we beat Cincy and Duke out for compare very favorably to anything Brannen and his video coordinators gotten and he's gotten them to ECU.

(10-22-2019 12:12 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  This thread is amazing. Fans of program with ZERO top 100 teams in the past 2 decades, absolutely convinced their program is in better shape than the program that has made the NCAA tournament 9 straight years under its most recent coach and 14 straight years under the full time coach before that.

The thread is being bookmarked for my own amusement.

Again, you are wrong. We had 2 top 100 RPI teams this decade, and Dooley had a top 100 RPI team his previous stint at ECU in the 90's as well when we were in the lowly CAA and he had a fraction of the resources he does today.

Also is Jeff Lebo, Michael Perry or Ricky Stokes coaching us? No. This is the present and future we are talking about. Huggins or Croninin aren't walking through your door either. You got some dude name Brannen and some coaches from N. Kentucky.

(10-22-2019 01:40 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 12:12 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  This thread is amazing. Fans of program with ZERO top 100 teams in the past 2 decades, absolutely convinced their program is in better shape than the program that has made the NCAA tournament 9 straight years under its most recent coach and 14 straight years under the full time coach before that.

The thread is being bookmarked for my own amusement.

Again, you are wrong. We had 2 top 100 RPI teams this decade, and Dooley had a top 100 RPI team his previous stint at ECU in the 90's as well when we were in the lowly CAA and he had a fraction of the resources he does today.

Also is Jeff Lebo, Michael Perry or Ricky Stokes coaching us? No. This is the present and future we are talking about. Huggins or Croninin aren't walking through your door either.

..... wait .. did you really just try to boast about 2 Top 100 RPI teams in a decade? Top 100 isn't even NIT worthy .... I really don't think you comprehend how far behind ECU is starting here. You could cut your NET in half and STILL be the 11th best NET in the league.

(10-22-2019 01:37 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 12:09 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:46 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:29 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 11:17 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  What was Jayden Gardner ranked? Not what he is ranked now in college basketball.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/05/17/n...n-2019-20/

What does that have to do with anything? You’ve basically said UC’s staff is not any good and even made a joke about them pulling in top classes when despite ECU bringing in 11 new people UC still managed to bring in significantly higher rated recruits and recruiting class. All the while this UC staff wasn’t put together until late in the game when many players had already decided where to go.

Absolute delusion.

What is delusional about the fact Dooley, Chillious, and Roccaforte are much better compared to your staff of former video coordinators, and might have a good eye for talent like Gardner for example? They beat you on a recruit with 15+ P5 offers who decommitted from Wake Forest everyone was after this spring late. I don't care what he was ranked because obviously it wasn't high enough with the kind of offers he had at that point when they beat Cincy, UConn, Duke, etc etc

You really want to compare recruiting chops of our staffs? Our guys have landed NBA players while yours were winding video, Dooley even landed a couple at FGCU inlcluding a highly touted one in Rayjon Tucker. Sure ECU comes with some inherit disadvantages compared to a program like Cincy, which makes our two staffs laughable honestly by comparison that this is what we ended up with.

Even with disadvantages the staff will go a long ways in closing that gap and landing a guys like Coleman in the future over you and others.......and it has already happened. Jeff Lebo and Micheal Perry aren't here anymore. When you have to get 11 players the most in basketball history the focus also can't be as narrow. I think you see more drilling down in the future on more specific recruits.

I wouldn't trade staffs or underclassmen with you.

So please explain to me how UC’s class was significantly higher with 8 less commits lol.

Believe what you want dude. ECU basketball has always been a joke and while they might be slightly less humorous than normal they will never come close to holding a candle to UC.

You literally don't know what the future will hold. UConn didn't think they would suck by their standards the last 5 years after winning a national title. What I do know is we got a better staff going into that future, and we got the best young player to build our future around off the two teams in Gardner.

When you sign the biggest class in college basketball history with freaking 11 players like we just did do you honestly think you can recruit as heavily on your top prospects? Obviously some of those 11 were taken just to fill out the roster which watersdown the aggregate ranking and even the guys we did get at the top we couldnt' put the same kind of full court press and concentration on we can now that we have a team of his guys and can replace a normal number in the future.

Duh. Also our top 2 or 3 like the one we beat Cincy and Duke out for compare very favorably to anything Brannen and his video coordinators got.

So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

NKU’s video coordinators last season: 26-9 Kenpom 97, NCAA Tournament 14 seed.
ECU’s all star staff: 10-21, Kenpom 264.

You’re right. They’re not very comparable at all.

(10-22-2019 01:36 PM)TheShoeFits Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 12:26 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:49 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  The Cincy-ECU Basketball rivalry is my favorite one in all of sports.

It's funny because Cincy fans seem to be consistently the most negative about ECU hoops, despite having some real issues actually beating this horrible program. Maybe if you guys had been drubbing us by 30-50 like Houston has been doing recently I'd listen to your smack, but you literally lost the last time we played. So I dunno why exactly the only team aside from Tulane that lost to us in this league last year is the one who's fans bark the most. Maybe try winning the next time we play, since we are so horrible it really shouldn't be that difficult.

If I'm not mistaken most of the UC team had the flu leading up to and during the game. Even Cronin missed a practice or two days prior to the trip.

It wasn't the first time he lost to $hitty ECU teams. I don't think head to head matters a lot as plenty of fluky crap happens from game to game, but if any team is susceptible to upset it's one like you had.

Your teams under Cronin were coached with hard nose defense and effort getting the most out of relatively marginal level recruits/talent relative what he was actually doing with them in the top 20. Good luck to the next coach getting that same sort of buy in and effort Cronin was milking out of much of this same group especially with some big man question marks to anchor such a defense.

(10-22-2019 02:00 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  NKU’s video coordinators last season: 26-9 Kenpom 97, NCAA Tournament 14 seed.
ECU’s all star staff: 10-21, Kenpom 264.

You’re right. They’re not very comparable at all.

In their 4th year. Get back to me when our staff is in their 4th year with Gardner and Robinson as seniors and Coleman as a Jr.

Their first year at N. Kentucky they went 9-21(5-13) in a far inferior conference, so you are right it's not comparable. Dooley also never had seasons like that at FGCU when he was coaching a low major.

(10-22-2019 02:03 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:00 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  NKU’s video coordinators last season: 26-9 Kenpom 97, NCAA Tournament 14 seed.
ECU’s all star staff: 10-21, Kenpom 264.

You’re right. They’re not very comparable at all.

In their 4th year. Get back to me when our staff is in their 4th year with Gardner and Robinson as seniors and Coleman as a Jr.

Their first year at N. Kentucky they went 9-21(5-13) in a far inferior conference, so you are right it's not comparable. Dooley also never had seasons like that at FGCU when he was coaching a low major.

You obviously are completely ignorant on NKU. They took over an NKU program that had spent exactly 3 years as a D1 program. He took over after a season when they went 13-17 and moved up a conference level from the ASun to the Horizon.

Oh and in year two they went to the NCAA Tournament and lost to Kentucky by 9 in the first round (Kenpom 138.) in year three they won the league and went to the NIT (Kenpom 90.)

GTFO of here.

(10-22-2019 01:56 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  [quote='StillJonesing' pid='16390445' dateline='1571769472']
So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

Sure. They went head to head this spring on a recruit you really needed and lost, even with the burden of signing 11 players and 8 this spring stretched thin with that amount and a set recruiting hours and a far inferior basketball resources, this staff beat your staff on an important player and landed 3 quality of players at least as highly ranked as anything yours landed.

What the heck does that say when your staff is at Cincy with much greater resources and get about the same level of recruits our staff did at ECU. Obviously they did more with less and it's shouldn't be a shock as they are certainly more accomplished.

(10-22-2019 02:14 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 01:56 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  [quote='StillJonesing' pid='16390445' dateline='1571769472']
So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

Sure. They went head to head this spring on a recruit you really needed and lost, even with the burden of signing 11 players and 8 this spring stretched thin with that amount and a set recruiting hours and a far inferior basketball resources, this staff beat your staff on an important player and landed 3 quality of players at least as highly ranked as anything yours landed.

What the heck does that say when your staff is at Cincy with much greater resources and get about the same level of recruits our staff did at ECU. Obviously they did more with less and it's shouldn't be a shock as they are certainly more accomplished.

If i remember right UC landed a 4 star Top 50 kid .. care to explain the bolded part? Which three players did ECU land as good as that?

(10-22-2019 02:14 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 01:56 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  [quote='StillJonesing' pid='16390445' dateline='1571769472']
So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

Sure. They went head to head this spring on a recruit you really needed and lost, even with the burden of signing 11 players and 8 this spring stretched thin with that amount and a set recruiting hours and a far inferior basketball resources, this staff beat your staff on an important player and landed 3 quality of players at least as highly ranked as anything yours landed.

What the heck does that say when your staff is at Cincy with much greater resources and get about the same level of recruits our staff did at ECU. Obviously they did more with less and it's shouldn't be a shock as they are certainly more accomplished.

I have no idea what recruit you are talking about, but UC landed a top 50 recruit this past spring. Would literally be the highest rated player ever to play at ECU.

Please tell me all ECU fans are not this delusional.

(10-22-2019 02:11 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:03 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:00 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  NKU’s video coordinators last season: 26-9 Kenpom 97, NCAA Tournament 14 seed.
ECU’s all star staff: 10-21, Kenpom 264.

You’re right. They’re not very comparable at all.

In their 4th year. Get back to me when our staff is in their 4th year with Gardner and Robinson as seniors and Coleman as a Jr.

Their first year at N. Kentucky they went 9-21(5-13) in a far inferior conference, so you are right it's not comparable. Dooley also never had seasons like that at FGCU when he was coaching a low major.

You obviously are completely ignorant on NKU. They took over an NKU program that had spent exactly 3 years as a D1 program. He took over after a season when they went 13-17 and moved up a conference level from the ASun to the Horizon.

Oh and in year two they went to the NCAA Tournament and lost to Kentucky by 9 in the first round (Kenpom 138.) in year three they won the league and went to the NIT (Kenpom 90.)

GTFO of here.

Right, so I guess Dooley didn't take over a mess here and doesn't deserve the same relative leniency even though he had to face a much stronger conference with his 250 NET team, in his first year in this comparison.

Only Brannen gets that courtesy. No instead you want to hold up some 4th year and compare it to taking over a mess of a program in year 1. Do you realize how stupid and hypocritical your arguments are? What will our team look like in year 4 with Gardner and Robinson as seniors?

(10-22-2019 02:19 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:11 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:03 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:00 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  NKU’s video coordinators last season: 26-9 Kenpom 97, NCAA Tournament 14 seed.
ECU’s all star staff: 10-21, Kenpom 264.

You’re right. They’re not very comparable at all.

In their 4th year. Get back to me when our staff is in their 4th year with Gardner and Robinson as seniors and Coleman as a Jr.

Their first year at N. Kentucky they went 9-21(5-13) in a far inferior conference, so you are right it's not comparable. Dooley also never had seasons like that at FGCU when he was coaching a low major.

You obviously are completely ignorant on NKU. They took over an NKU program that had spent exactly 3 years as a D1 program. He took over after a season when they went 13-17 and moved up a conference level from the ASun to the Horizon.

Oh and in year two they went to the NCAA Tournament and lost to Kentucky by 9 in the first round (Kenpom 138.) in year three they won the league and went to the NIT (Kenpom 90.)

GTFO of here.

Right, so I guess Dooley didn't take over a mess here and doesn't deserve the same relative leniency even though he had to face a much stronger conference with his 250 NET team, in his first year in this comparison.

Only Brannen gets that courtesy. No instead you want to hold up some 4th year and compare it to taking over a mess of a program in year 1. Do you realize how stupid and hypocritical your arguments are? What will our team look like in year 4 with Gardner and Robinson as seniors?

Based off ECU’s entire history, a strong bet would be that that team amounts to pretty much nothing. Sure ECU’s staff can have that leniency. But I’d bet a lot of money they don’t make the tournament this year or finish as high as Brannen’s second team did in Kenpom.

You were the one who called out UC’s staff as being inferior to ECU’s. But once again. Enjoy irrelevancy for the fifth straight decade. The two NCAA tournament appearances with 0 wins really makes me feel excited about the future down there.

(10-22-2019 02:19 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:14 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 01:56 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  [quote='StillJonesing' pid='16390445' dateline='1571769472']
So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

Sure. They went head to head this spring on a recruit you really needed and lost, even with the burden of signing 11 players and 8 this spring stretched thin with that amount and a set recruiting hours and a far inferior basketball resources, this staff beat your staff on an important player and landed 3 quality of players at least as highly ranked as anything yours landed.

What the heck does that say when your staff is at Cincy with much greater resources and get about the same level of recruits our staff did at ECU. Obviously they did more with less and it's shouldn't be a shock as they are certainly more accomplished.

If i remember right UC landed a 4 star Top 50 kid .. care to explain the bolded part? Which three players did ECU land as good as that?

Coleman had just as many good offers including one from Cincy they lost head to head, but I digress.

I don't know the story on that guy, he must have reclassified or something. Regardless the job Dooley and staff did this year relative the resources he has vs somewhere like Cincy holds up either way individually especially when he beat them on a recruit both wanted with offers from Duke and a ton of other P5 offers.

(10-22-2019 02:29 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:19 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:14 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 01:56 PM)BcatMatt13 Wrote:  [quote='StillJonesing' pid='16390445' dateline='1571769472']
So you admit UC’s “video coordinators” have better recruits coming in than ECU despite not recruiting anyone to UC until April. Got it.

I think we’re done here. Enjoy irrelevancy, god knows you’re used to it.

Sure. They went head to head this spring on a recruit you really needed and lost, even with the burden of signing 11 players and 8 this spring stretched thin with that amount and a set recruiting hours and a far inferior basketball resources, this staff beat your staff on an important player and landed 3 quality of players at least as highly ranked as anything yours landed.

What the heck does that say when your staff is at Cincy with much greater resources and get about the same level of recruits our staff did at ECU. Obviously they did more with less and it's shouldn't be a shock as they are certainly more accomplished.

If i remember right UC landed a 4 star Top 50 kid .. care to explain the bolded part? Which three players did ECU land as good as that?

Coleman had just as many good offers including one from Cincy they lost head to head, but I digress.

I don't know the story on that guy, he must have reclassified or something. Regardless the job Dooley and staff did this year relative the resources he has vs somewhere like Cincy holds up either way individually especially when he beat them on a recruit both wanted with offers from Duke and a ton of other P5 offers.

Ok .. are you now trying to make a "relative to resources" comparison?

No one is saying he did a bad job, but trying to put him ahead of Cincy ... is a stretch.

(10-22-2019 01:40 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 12:12 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  This thread is amazing. Fans of program with ZERO top 100 teams in the past 2 decades, absolutely convinced their program is in better shape than the program that has made the NCAA tournament 9 straight years under its most recent coach and 14 straight years under the full time coach before that.

The thread is being bookmarked for my own amusement.

Again, you are wrong. We had 2 top 100 RPI teams this decade, and Dooley had a top 100 RPI team his previous stint at ECU in the 90's as well when we were in the lowly CAA and he had a fraction of the resources he does today.

Also is Jeff Lebo, Michael Perry or Ricky Stokes coaching us? No. This is the present and future we are talking about. Huggins or Croninin aren't walking through your door either. You got some dude name Brannen and some coaches from N. Kentucky.

LOL. You really think I was citing RPI? I was citing the kenpom numbers I quoted earlier. RPI is not a noteworthy measure of team quality. But glad the worst statistical measure we have said you managed to crap the top 100 a couple of times.

(10-22-2019 09:49 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  The Cincy-ECU Basketball rivalry is my favorite one in all of sports.

Yeah last year we poached a Bearcat. This year I am thinking we’ll poach a Husky.

I am so excited.

(10-22-2019 02:59 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:49 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  The Cincy-ECU Basketball rivalry is my favorite one in all of sports.

Yeah last year we poached a Bearcat. This year I am thinking we’ll poach a Husky.

I am so excited.

You should be trying to poach a Tiger or Cougar this year. #ECULowStandards

(10-22-2019 03:17 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 02:59 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(10-22-2019 09:49 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  The Cincy-ECU Basketball rivalry is my favorite one in all of sports.

Yeah last year we poached a Bearcat. This year I am thinking we’ll poach a Husky.

I am so excited.

You should be trying to poach a Tiger or Cougar this year. #ECULowStandards

Trying to work from the bottom up.