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(10-31-2019 10:12 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Just my two cents but I believe mass media has had the effect of concentrating fandom among a few perennial winners that have massive media appeal while less successful programs that none the less had strong loyal local followings within their area have seen their fan bases dwindle.

The cost of attending live sporting events is also resulting in a lot of folks watching from their couch.

It has always been like this. No? Growing up I wasn’t a big college football fan but I knew about Notre Dame, Miami, Nebraska, Florida St, Texas and Alabama, USC. They were on TV, newspapers, magazine covers and their players were Heisman winners.

I also knew about the WAC, since I followed UTEP. Even then, I knew there were huge differences between that conference and say the Big 8. 80s BYU was a bit before my time. Media money, level of players, coaches, stadiums, national brand, etc.
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(10-26-2019 03:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:41 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 09:02 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(10-25-2019 04:06 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Yes, from a money POV the AAC is in one sense a "tweener" league, in that its money is clearly above that of the other G5 conferences. There's no doubt that $7m a year is a lot more than $1m or $2m a year.

But, since the lowest P5 is getting about $25m now, that means if the other G4 are San Francisco and the P5 are New York City, the AAC is about at Salt Lake City, far closer to the G side than the P side.

The AAC teams will be getting close to 8mil once they split UCONN's share that ESPN seems to be okay with.

I guess that is still Salt Lake City, maybe its suburbs, lol. And what makes you think ESPN isn't deducting UConn's share?

Because they haven't deducted it yet. That means it'll never happen. ESPN is altruistic.

The contract doesn't go into effect for about 9 months.

I thought I read that the contract doesn't adjust unless TWO teams leave. It's not about altruism at all. If they could cut the deal, they would.

ESPN may also tell the AAC to do what the Big XII did - and add no one.
11-01-2019 09:34 AM
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(11-01-2019 09:34 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 03:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:41 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 09:02 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  The AAC teams will be getting close to 8mil once they split UCONN's share that ESPN seems to be okay with.

I guess that is still Salt Lake City, maybe its suburbs, lol. And what makes you think ESPN isn't deducting UConn's share?

Because they haven't deducted it yet. That means it'll never happen. ESPN is altruistic.

The contract doesn't go into effect for about 9 months.

I thought I read that the contract doesn't adjust unless TWO teams leave. It's not about altruism at all. If they could cut the deal, they would.

ESPN may also tell the AAC to do what the Big XII did - and add no one.

I recall that Sports Business Journal said ESPN could renegotiate with UConn leaving.

Bottom line is, nobody will know for sure until the contract kicks in next July, and then we will get reports on how much each AAC school is getting. Yet some pro-AAC posters are acting like they know for sure ESPN is just going to let the AAC keep UConn's share of the money.
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RE: AAC Waiver Approved
(11-01-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 09:34 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 03:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:41 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  I guess that is still Salt Lake City, maybe its suburbs, lol. And what makes you think ESPN isn't deducting UConn's share?

Because they haven't deducted it yet. That means it'll never happen. ESPN is altruistic.

The contract doesn't go into effect for about 9 months.

I thought I read that the contract doesn't adjust unless TWO teams leave. It's not about altruism at all. If they could cut the deal, they would.

ESPN may also tell the AAC to do what the Big XII did - and add no one.

I recall that Sports Business Journal said ESPN could renegotiate with UConn leaving.

Bottom line is, nobody will know for sure until the contract kicks in next July, and then we will get reports on how much each AAC school is getting. Yet some pro-AAC posters are acting like they know for sure ESPN is just going to let the AAC keep UConn's share of the money.

I dont think that much matters as long as the pro rata share of the media deal remains equal to it's current rate. If the media per team pay out remains equal, there will still be a small bump up in revenue for the remaining teams due to the other revenue sources (CFP, bowls, NCAA credit income, etc) being divided by one less share. The most important thing is they have avoided any need to act rashly---potentially adding a school that dilutes the conference and sets back its development curve.
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RE: AAC Waiver Approved
(11-01-2019 11:25 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 11:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(11-01-2019 09:34 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 03:05 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-26-2019 02:41 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Because they haven't deducted it yet. That means it'll never happen. ESPN is altruistic.

The contract doesn't go into effect for about 9 months.

I thought I read that the contract doesn't adjust unless TWO teams leave. It's not about altruism at all. If they could cut the deal, they would.

ESPN may also tell the AAC to do what the Big XII did - and add no one.

I recall that Sports Business Journal said ESPN could renegotiate with UConn leaving.

Bottom line is, nobody will know for sure until the contract kicks in next July, and then we will get reports on how much each AAC school is getting. Yet some pro-AAC posters are acting like they know for sure ESPN is just going to let the AAC keep UConn's share of the money.

I dont think that much matters as long as the pro rata share of the media deal remains equal to it's current rate. If the media per team pay out remains equal, there will still be a small bump up in revenue for the remaining teams due to the other revenue sources (CFP, bowls, NCAA credit income, etc) being divided by one less share. The most important thing is they have avoided any need to act rashly---potentially adding a school that dilutes the conference and sets back its development curve.

I agree with all that, and to me it's also the fairest solution - there's no reason that the AAC should be penalized by having the pro-rata share cut, nor to benefit from keeping UConn's share. The extra benefit to the AAC of dividing CFP and NCAA credit income less ways is also fair, as that was never negotiated based on conference size to begin with.
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