(10-19-2019 10:00 AM)wave97 Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 07:49 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 07:30 AM)wave97 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 09:56 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 09:53 PM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  ...and what brilliant insight did your AD provide when you spoke to him on your knees?

ODU will never be in the AAC

I see you’ve been drinking tonight

You are very wrong.
ODU has a large, active & growing fan base.
ODU has a large underserved media market (particularly for sports entertainment).
ODU has a legendary recruiting base.
ODU has geographic & cultural tie-ins for the AAC ( the ring-knockers vs the enlisted).
ODU is one good football staff hire away from contesting for the AAC East.
Bobby Wilder & his sh*t show has to go.

It really is the worst possible time for us to be going through a [potential?] coaching change and a total dud of a season in football so far. Total reload and 43 new players means shooting for #1 draft pick type season.

I think Wilder has through next season. If next year is like this one we will have to wish him well and I personally want Blackwell to be given a shot if he wants it.

He's a good OC. He can't attract defensive coaching talent. He's lost the players for being a complete a-hole as a human being. You need to fire him asap regardless of any new conference affiliation.

We hired Blackwell and our defense went from bottom 25 to top 35 overall in one off season.

Our issue is offensive now. Terribly young OL and receiving core along with 2 juco qbs that came in and so far couldnt get it done. Next year we will have a rsfr that might maybe hopefully [for wilder's sake] get the offense back on track.

But anyway didnt mean to derail.

(10-19-2019 10:15 AM)Pirate1989 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 04:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 02:57 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  According to a Philadelphia newspaper the championship game waiver requested by the AAC is being made only for the 2020 and 21 seasons. If granted the AAC still has to either add a team or drop a team according to the article. First time I've heard that the request being made would be a temporary waiver only.

Link

First time I've heard Aresco say publicly that they don't want to do unbalanced divisions. So it's a 2-year waiver, then a rule change, or back to 12.

My understanding is we just go to no divisions w/11 teams. Adding a member only makes sense if they bring equal $$$$ value. The AAC is not going to drop a team and go to 10 unless 1 leaves voluntarily for another conference.

That's not what Aresco just said. He said he expects to get the waiver for two years (which is when they go to no divisions with 11 teams and an 8-game conference schedule). After that, either the rule will be changed to allow that permanently, or they will go back to 12 teams, with divisions.

He said they weren't dropping anybody.

He also said they weren't going to stay at 11 if they were forced into unbalanced divisions, b/c it was too difficult, although his explanation was a bit weak.

(10-18-2019 08:23 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I'd be in favor of voting East Carolina out. Historically a really bad program in basketball they originally were a football only invite. Now they suck in football to. About the only school where you can say getting rid of them would make both AAC football and basketball better.

Memphis gets 2 wins against the worst coach in ECU football history, who was just run out of town, and you forget the 7 in a row ECU won before that. ECU has historically run roughshod over Memphis (15-8), spent nearly twice as many weeks in the AP poll (34-16) and has the highest average attendance (40,362) since joining the AAC.

Basketball? What's that?

And learn to spell "too".

(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 08:57 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  If the waiver is approved and we don't have to make a move until 2022 then keep an eye on Charlotte, a new AD, Basketball and Football coach, they could be in a much better position by then.

I think that waiver has almost zero chance.

Never underestimate the power of ESPN...which basically owns/runs college football today.

ESPN has LOVED the AAC Championship Game (shown on ABC the last few years) as that one game has added to their bottom line in big numbers (vs what they paid to get it).

Of course no new team will be added at this late date for 2020...and I could see the NCAA approving the 2 year waiver as AAC could invite a team next year to join for 2022.

(10-19-2019 10:30 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 09:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 08:57 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  If the waiver is approved and we don't have to make a move until 2022 then keep an eye on Charlotte, a new AD, Basketball and Football coach, they could be in a much better position by then.

I think that waiver has almost zero chance.

Never underestimate the power of ESPN...which basically owns/runs college football today.

ESPN has LOVED the AAC Championship Game (shown on ABC the last few years) as that one game has added to their bottom line in big numbers (vs what they paid to get it).

Of course no new team will be added at this late date for 2020...and I could see the NCAA approving the 2 year waiver as AAC could invite a team next year to join for 2022.

I agree with everything KnightLight said. We may not be getting "P5" money, but ESPN is still the 800-pound gorilla, and they will protect their investment.

(10-18-2019 07:36 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  After reading this thread, it becomes clear to me that the best win-win is to let UConn football stay for two more years. The AAC can be clear that they are giving us the boot in football after two years. In the interim, we get some breathing room to patch together an Indy schedule and the AAC gets time to really evaluate who is/are the best addition/additions. That way they can truly find someone who fits best for the long run based on performance and to watch the new TV partners evolve to gauge which program will make everyone more money in the long run.

Aresco can make UConn football eat a little crow in a press release now and then use the two years to make the right decision.

Best solution. Good for UConn. Good for AAC.

You guys are funny, BYU has said multiple times they don’t want in, yet you Bri g them up. Pretty close to same thing with Army. No MWC school is going to want to be on an island in the AAC.


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(10-18-2019 03:39 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  What SHOULD happen is that the AAC should find the best football school that also has reasonably good basketball and make them an all sports member.

What WILL happen is that the AAC will extend an invite to a school like App State in football and VCU in basketball and further become the Frankenconference that eventually doomed the old Big East.

Lol keep your mouth shut, you have no idea what you're talking about. The old Big East was doomed from day one and had 7 non football schools at the end. If you think 2 onlies on each side is the old Big East, you obviously weren't around during the old Big East days and just parrot talking points you hear other uninformed blowhards bandy around.

The American should do exactly that with an App State or Marshall. VCU should be here already.

(10-18-2019 08:23 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 07:59 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 05:08 PM)Agust Wrote:  i would be for subtraction. but who would be the one voted out?

I would support subtraction. Addition by subtraction. Tulsa.

I'd be in favor of voting East Carolina out. Historically a really bad program in basketball they originally were a football only invite. Now they suck in football to. About the only school where you can say getting rid of them would make both AAC football and basketball better.

Memphis has historically been bad at football.

Probably kick out Houston and go to a 10 team round robin.

(10-19-2019 09:37 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 09:31 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 08:18 AM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 08:39 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(10-18-2019 08:23 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  I'd be in favor of voting East Carolina out. Historically a really bad program in basketball they originally were a football only invite. Now they suck in football to. About the only school where you can say getting rid of them would make both AAC football and basketball better.

While I agree ECU has been a consistent bottom dweller in hoops, it's not as if Tulsa has exactly made a mark in our league either. Football drives the bus and I have more faith in ECU to turn it around with their 50,000 seat stadium and planning upgrades than a small private school like Tulsa. ECU has beaten P5 programs since joining the AAC. Tulsa has not. Tulsa is 25-43 since joining the American. ECU is 25-42. A wash.

We still average more fans than anyone while we suck. We have a P5 football program. Tulsa will never have a large fan base. ECU baseball is really good, football is about to be back on top, and watch out for all the money we have invested in basketball. American needs full stadiums for tv a conference with a bunch of small private schools and empty seats is just a house of cards once the tv contracts are based on eye balls and not market with streaming. The networks now have a true count of how many people are watching games and with ECUs large fan base we will be worth more than Tulane or SMU awhile are in bigger markets but have no fans.

FYI—our new TV deal IS based on eyeballs. The higher than expected AAC performance in the ratings (actual eyeballs) is how we got that raise—not “markets”.

You do get that they're related right?

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They can be related--but they are absolutely not one and the same. "Markets" alone are worthless if the conference teams in those markets cant get any traction in the "market" (see CUSA for the value of "markets" alone).

“We felt that this more flexible amendment with two options was the best way to help our conference colleagues to play a championship game without the uncertainty that comes with complete deregulation,” said Jim Phillips, Northwestern University athletics director and chair of the Council. Phillips also represents the Big Ten Conference on the Council.”

Having unbalanced divisions does not disqualify the AAC from holding a CCG.

Just because you don’t want to follow the rules doesn’t mean you get to have your way.

If the 12 team rule was still in effect, I can see getting a temp waiver for the CCG with <12 teams to hold a CCG.

The waiver is to play a championship game with no divisions.

No waiver means we play uneven divisions, which is allowable.

Do I have this correct?

(10-18-2019 05:54 PM)Cecil_B_DeMoore Wrote:  I think Georgia State would be a workable solution.

UAB > Ga State

Unfortunately App State won’t be available to accept an AAC bid in two years because we will be in the AFC East replacing the Dolphins

I'm all for playing UConn in Memphis if they pay us enough. $3 million would do it.

(10-19-2019 04:38 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  I'm all for playing UConn in Memphis if they pay us enough. $3 million would do it.

Or I could sit on your face.

I stand corrected. (With egg on my face)....
Looks like Air Force is positioning itself for the AAC. 2 years more than enough time to give notice to the MW....and no exit fees.

Speaking of the MWC, UCONN Football to open the 2020 season at San Jose State. Should be a dandy!