(10-19-2019 03:28 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 03:15 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Mark Miami off the list

Of those that cheat to win?

some cheat but still don't win...

(10-19-2019 06:43 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  UPDATE after the games this weekend:

Controls their own destiny: UVA and VT. Win out and go directly to Charlotte. UVA has one loss and VT still plays UVA and 1 loss Pitt.

Needs help but can still make it: Pitt with one loss needs UVA to lose another. If they win out and UVA loses another Pitt returns to Charlotte.

Needs a miracle: Duke and UNC both with 2 losses and teams that hold the tie breakers ahead of them.

It's all over: GT and Miami with 3 losses. Both can play spoiler. GT still has both one loss teams. Miami plays at Pitt next weekend.

You can cross Duke off...,they now have losses to Pitt and Virginia. They're done

Per the All ACC show tonight, current FPI chances to win the Coastal:
1. Virginia- 65%
2. UNC- 16%
3. Pitt- 13%
4. Virginia Tech- 4%
5. Duke- 1%
6. Miami- <1%
7. Georgia Tech- <1%

UVA clearly is the favorite when you view the standings, their tiebreaker over Pitt, remaining schedules and consider the eye test. 65% seems a tad high to me subjectively however.

I anticipate another Cavman loss soon resetting the division yet again.

(10-20-2019 12:43 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Per the All ACC show tonight, current FPI chances to win the Coastal:
1. Virginia- 65%
2. UNC- 16%
3. Pitt- 13%
4. Virginia Tech- 4%
5. Duke- 1%
6. Miami- <1%
7. Georgia Tech- <1%

UVA clearly is the favorite when you view the standings, their tiebreaker over Pitt, remaining schedules and consider the eye test. 65% seems a tad high to me subjectively however.

Those percentages sound like someone pulled some numbers out of their arse

Basically Duke, Miami, and GT are eliminated

(10-19-2019 06:43 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Controls their own destiny: UVA and VT. Win out and go directly to Charlotte. UVA has one loss and VT still plays UVA and 1 loss Pitt.

(10-20-2019 12:43 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Per the All ACC show tonight, current FPI chances to win the Coastal:
1. Virginia- 65%
2. UNC- 16%
3. Pitt- 13%
4. Virginia Tech- 4%
5. Duke- 1%
6. Miami- <1%
7. Georgia Tech- <1%

UVA clearly is the favorite when you view the standings, their tiebreaker over Pitt, remaining schedules and consider the eye test. 65% seems a tad high to me subjectively however.

I don't agree with VT being only 4% when we control our own destiny. So there's only a 4% chance we beat WF GT Pitt and UVA? None of those are looking like world beaters.

(10-20-2019 08:38 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 06:43 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Controls their own destiny: UVA and VT. Win out and go directly to Charlotte. UVA has one loss and VT still plays UVA and 1 loss Pitt.

(10-20-2019 12:43 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Per the All ACC show tonight, current FPI chances to win the Coastal:
1. Virginia- 65%
2. UNC- 16%
3. Pitt- 13%
4. Virginia Tech- 4%
5. Duke- 1%
6. Miami- <1%
7. Georgia Tech- <1%

UVA clearly is the favorite when you view the standings, their tiebreaker over Pitt, remaining schedules and consider the eye test. 65% seems a tad high to me subjectively however.

I don't agree with VT being only 4% when we control our own destiny. So there's only a 4% chance we beat WF GT Pitt and UVA? None of those are looking like world beaters.

Given that VT is 3-4 in the past seven years against Pitt (2012 was a non-conference loss) and 3-4 against GT in the past seven as well, even if you think those are 50-50 games that means you have a 1 in 4 of winning both. WF is actually playing really darn well right now, that may be a 50-50 game too at best, you're down to 1 in 8 of winning all three. I won't say anything about UVA except that it is on the road.

It isn't like VT has been world-beaters this year. Beaten @BC (who then got shelled by Kansas, yes Kansas at home), Blown up by Duke at home, close win over Furman, decent win over Rhode Island, a strange one @Miami (who proved to be fallible) and a gritty win over UNC at home.

Now if you manage to win those three and face UVA for the Coastal title? Yeah I'll actually bet money on VT cause something in UVA's head keeps them from winning this game. 5000+ days and counting.

(10-19-2019 03:15 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  Mark Miami off the list

If Miami ends up 5-7 and home for the holidays, they're gonna look at yesterday with a lot of regret. This was a bad loss for them. At 3-4 currently with games left @Pitt, @FSU, Louisville, @FIU, and @Duke this could be tough to get to six.

Pitt is a tough team, not incredibly talented but not an easy win. Current forecast for the game has it cooler (mid-50s) and rain. A small hangover from this weekend could be deadly for their chances.
FSU can go either way, rivalry game where you throw out the records.
Louisville is playing rather well under first-year head coach Scott Satterfield.
FIU should be a win
Duke depends on which version shows up: the one who steamrolled VT or the one who forgot to show up against UVA.

Winning three of these final five games might be a bit much. Finishing a five-game homestead at 3-2 was not what they wanted.

(10-20-2019 08:38 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(10-19-2019 06:43 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Controls their own destiny: UVA and VT. Win out and go directly to Charlotte. UVA has one loss and VT still plays UVA and 1 loss Pitt.

(10-20-2019 12:43 AM)CollegeCard Wrote:  Per the All ACC show tonight, current FPI chances to win the Coastal:
1. Virginia- 65%
2. UNC- 16%
3. Pitt- 13%
4. Virginia Tech- 4%
5. Duke- 1%
6. Miami- <1%
7. Georgia Tech- <1%

UVA clearly is the favorite when you view the standings, their tiebreaker over Pitt, remaining schedules and consider the eye test. 65% seems a tad high to me subjectively however.

I don't agree with VT being only 4% when we control our own destiny. So there's only a 4% chance we beat WF GT Pitt and UVA? None of those are looking like world beaters.

I updated my post to reflect that VT needs a Duke loss to return to Charlotte. I mistakenly said they control their own destiny. They, like Pitt, need help to get there.

Circle of Destiny.

Georgia Tech beat Miami
Miami beat UVA
UVA beat Pitt
Pitt beat Duke
Duke beat Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech beat UNC
UNC beat Georgia Tech

(10-21-2019 04:03 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Circle of Destiny.

Georgia Tech beat Miami
Miami beat UVA
UVA beat Pitt
Pitt beat Duke
Duke beat Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech beat UNC
UNC beat Georgia Tech

I'll see your circle and raise you a graphic:



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That’s great Mark!

(10-21-2019 06:31 AM)Garrettabc Wrote:  That’s great Mark!

"Great" is not necessarily the word I would've used...

What’s the chance they all tie at 4-4?

Cant we just name them all losers?


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Toughest division (to win) in football!

I would not want to be the team sent to the slaughter vs Clemson.

UPDATE after the 10/26 games:

Everyone has at least 2 losses. Miami and UNC winning shakes up the top.

Controls their own destiny: The Coastal destiny goes through the Commonwealth of Virginia. UVA & VT Win out and go directly to Charlotte. UVA picked up 2nd loss today.

Needs help but can still make it: Pitt missed a golden opportunity to sieze control of the Coastal. Pitt with two losses needs UVA to lose another. If they win out and UVA loses another Pitt returns to Charlotte. UNC with 2 losses needs VT to lose another. Pitt and UVA are must wins, both could help with VT.

It's likely over: GT, Duke, and Miami with 3 losses. Can still play spoiler. GT still has both Pitt & UVA. Miami beat Pitt today.

One thing is for sure, this won't be settled anytime soon.

Making things messier if it gets to tie-breaks ... GT has a loss in the Atlantic against Clemson. UVA has a loss in the Atlantic against Louisville. Technically this is beneficial in the tie-break as they start with divisional record among the tied teams IIRC.

(10-26-2019 06:11 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The ACC should just let Clemson and who ever finishes 2nd in the Atlantic Division play in the championship game.

Hell no! No one in the Atlantic has played Clemson tougher than the Tar Heels this season.