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If not on the helmet at least prominently on the jersey.
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NIU has been playing college football for 120 years and the huskie head has been on the helmet for what like 10 - 15 years in the entire history? How is that some big ball drop by athletics? The use of NI or NIU on the helmets has considerably more history. The addition of the huskie head is very much a “this century” design.
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(10-16-2019 03:40 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  NIU has been playing college football for 120 years and the huskie head has been on the helmet for what like 10 - 15 years in the entire history? How is that some big ball drop by athletics? The use of NI or NIU on the helmets has considerably more history. The addition of the huskie head is very much a “this century” design.


The Huskies were not known as the Huskies for all those years. And a favorite of everyone’s - the fighting Huskie - goes back to 1968. The Huskie or Huskie head has been part of tradition for many decades. We keep saying that NIU needs traditions. They have one right here, but they cast it off in favor of sanitized letters. What a shame.
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(10-16-2019 04:29 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 03:40 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  NIU has been playing college football for 120 years and the huskie head has been on the helmet for what like 10 - 15 years in the entire history? How is that some big ball drop by athletics? The use of NI or NIU on the helmets has considerably more history. The addition of the huskie head is very much a “this century” design.


The Huskies were not known as the Huskies for all those years. And a favorite of everyone’s - the fighting Huskie - goes back to 1968. The Huskie or Huskie head has been part of tradition for many decades. We keep saying that NIU needs traditions. They have one right here, but they cast it off in favor of sanitized letters. What a shame.

Right but the fighting huskie wasn’t the only logo used on the helmets since 1968. Wasn’t it only used for a handful of seasons? From the 70s to 2000 the helmets were largely just a variation of the NI. I guess I just don’t see the helmet argument when you consider the huskie wasn’t used exclusively on helmets for most of NIU’s football history. NIU went multiple decades without the huskie.

It’s also not like the school changed its mascot so not sure how that equates to losing the huskie tradition. The live huskie mascot is a better tradition to me than a helmet.
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(10-16-2019 01:41 PM)JoeNovak Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 11:14 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  What the heck does this all have to do with retaining the dog head over the NIU? The NIU identity is still there, big and bold. This is extremely popular among the fans, as anyone can see. Sounds to me like someone is trying to justify marketing dollars poorly spent.

I don’t understand not having the dog head.....it still clearly has NIU just below it. The dog logo is far more iconic than “NIU.” Our rise to a football power came while wearing that helmet. That’s what people recognize.

This. If the bland solo block NIU helmet isn't appealing to the school's own fans why would outsiders be drawn to it? #badmarketing
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(10-16-2019 05:22 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 04:29 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 05:22 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  The addition of the huskie head is very much a “this century” design.
We keep saying that NIU needs traditions. They have one right here, but they cast it off in favor of sanitized letters. What a shame.
NIU went multiple decades without the huskie.

The "this century" design reference coincides with the time period NIU football became notable under coach Novak. NIU defeated Wake Forest, upset Maryland, defeated Alabama, beat Iowa State, edged Central Florida, rallied to down Troy in a bowl game, had an early lead in a season-opening loss at Michigan. Those are the games that coincide with the Huskies becoming better known and it was the Huskie head above the lettering on those helmets.
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Speaking of history, another writer I know is Facebook friends with Mike Korcek, who recently wrote this piece for something called "DeKalb County Online."

What’s the deal? Why do “we” spell it H-u-s-k-i-e as opposed to H-u-s-k-y?
People have asked that question for decades, especially in light of the fact that the breed of dog ends with a “y” as does the mascot / nickname of higher-profile University of Washington of the PAC-12.

The answer? It’s H-u-s-k-i-e. It’s us. Unique, albeit inadvertent branding. By 2020, Northern Illinois University will have carried the name Huskies for eight decades.
The stumbling block for the uninitiated? The singular collective form, noun or adjective. Huskies. Right or wrong, it’s ingrained into our local culture. After 50 years in DeKalb, I’m almost a townie. It’s the way we talk here. Who cares what Noah Webster, Spellcheck.net, or cranky copy editors think? I’m a Huskie. Thomas Hammock is a Huskie.

Upon Lisa Freeman’s investiture as NIU’s 13th president, according to the DeKalb Daily Chronicle, Board of Trustees chair Dennis Barsema observed: “Since arriving on campus in 2010, she (Freeman) has realized what it meant to be a Huskie.” Dennis would know. He’s a Huskie, too. But sometimes, I wonder about our world.

Earlier this football season, the Chicago Tribune sports page referred—believe it or not—to our home field as “Husky Stadium.” Sorry, that’s in Seattle, Wash. After all these decades, Mother Tribune.

In recent years, every time NIU moves the chains on offense, the public address announcer dutifully reminds us: “And that’s another Huskies’ first down!” Huskies? No, Huskie first down. PA man must be an SIU grad.

For a decade, the DeKalb Daily Chronicle has been extremely gracious, running my sports column and allowing me to comment on local events. But, every time I would type “…Huskie All-America so-and-so…”, the final version would wind up “…Huskies’ All-America so-and-so…”

What institutional memory?
In 1940, NIU sought a more colorful mascot / nickname—“a term with a trifle more dash” than Profs or Teachers (used in reference to NIU’s original mission as a teachers’ college), Cardinals (due to the school’s athletics jersey colors), or the Evansmen (in reverent recognition of long-time athletics director George “Chick” Evans).

After much deliberation, the four-man committee of Evans, Harold Taxman, Walter Lorimer, and Harry Telman, all members of the Varsity Club, reached their decision as reported in a three-paragraph story on page three of the January 25, 1940, issue of the Northern Illinois, the student newspaper and precursor to The Northern Star.

“From now on the word ‘Huskies’ will be used constantly in this paper and in other papers to indicate our athletics sqauds,” the unsigned story stated. “Not only does the term have color and meaning, but it is particularly apt as in regards to NI’s varsity teams.”

Apt? It was perfect. The American Kennel Club notes that the Siberian Husky breed’s temperament as “loyal, outgoing, mischievous, friendly, fastidious, and dignified…(it is) quick and light on his feet and free and graceful in action. Most important, such a dog could excel and thrive during those DeKalb polar vortex winters.

At the same time, the spelling / style dichotomy may have unintentionally originated. The same article mentioned “Huskies” and “Huskie” three times each. A pessimist might have wondered if either Evans (who had a Master’s degree), the committee, or the reporter could spell.

In nearly 40 years working in the NIU Office of Sports Information and diligent research in our files and at the Regional History Center, I can report that both “Huskie” and “Husky” were not only used in official publications (media guides, yearbooks, news releases), but local newspapers as well between 1940 and 1967.

Consummate journalist Bud Nangle put an end to that upon his return to campus in 1967-68 and his second tenure as sports information director. In the 1968 NIU Football Guide Book, Nangle put a “Huskielines” headline over the athletics staff office phone numbers and a “Huskie Profiles” over the student-athlete bios.

About the same time, Nangle designed the distinctive masthead for our news release stationery (remember few media entities at the time had fax machines, plus PDFs and the internet were years away) with the Bob Brigham-commissioned boxing Huskie logo on the top left, looking into a bold Cardinal brush type “Northern Illinois University” header and a black subhead “A Huskie Happening…from Bud Nangle, sports information director.” Believe me, the on and off-campus mailing list was extensive.

Bye, bye, Husky.

As Bud’s assistant for 12 years, I learned about his copy editing acumen at the DeKalb Daily Chronicle, Chicago Daily News, and as the executive sports editor of the Toledo Blade. He was old-school. demanding, exacting and stressed daily that a university PR entity should reflect an institution of higher education. Most of all, if Bud said it was spelled Huskie, it was Huskie.

As my long-time colleague and former Daily Chronicle sports editor Steve Nemeth observed: “Bud made H-u-s-k-i-e the norm.” And, at the same time, probably influenced the NIU academic ranks.
The ultimate occurred during NIU’s Diamond Jubilee 75th Anniversary observation in 1974. Then NIU president Richard Nelson headed a 12-person committee consisting of alumni, faculty, operating staff, students, and locals to review campus buildings and facilities for renaming.

Two of the approved recommendations were for Huskie Stadium (nameless since its inception in 1965) and Chick Evans Field House (known previously as Northern Field House). One more time. Huskie Stadium, not Husky or Huskies Stadium, get it?
The rationale for the former, according to Nelson’s later: “The Huskie dog has been the mascot and symbol of NIU’s athletic teams for many years.”

Thanks to the Regional History Center, I’ve seen photostatic copies of a 1961 letter from Francis Stroup and another from Clara Sperling in 1963 with the lyrics and title of the “Huskie Fight Song.”

At each home football game, NIU athletics recognizes a “Huskie Legend.” And I understand President Freeman will be unveiling a Huskie Pride statue on campus this fall. So, in this colloquial world of abbreviations, slang, LOLS, good, we have some Huskie compliance.

In 1976, Nangle asked me to revamp our football and men’s basketball game programs. “Why not call them ‘Huskie Illustrated’?”, I suggested. We did and the title remained the same for 30-plus seasons. Nobody in academia put us on NCAA probation.
Two years later, the first “Huskie Heritage” stories on the history of our mascot, school colors, and music appeared in our football media guide and game program. To this day, the same stories are included on the NIU athletics website.

Me? I was conditioned and in my 22 years as SID, I followed my mentor’s lead on Huskie as have the current athletics communication staff.
In 1984 when I succeeded Bud as SID, I asked the late Jim Mellard, the former chair of the NIU English department (and later interim athletics director in 1987), if our spelling was a grammatical no-no.

“No, Mike, it’s perfect,” Mellard reassured. “Collective singular. It’s us.”
Husky, Huskies, or Huskie? Huskie, that is the answer.
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When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.
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(10-17-2019 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.


And I’m a husky Huskie.
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(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.


And I’m a husky Huskie.

I'm a less husky Huskie....down 55 lbs since July 16 on the beef and whiskey diet.
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(10-18-2019 09:05 AM)cosine4 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.


And I’m a husky Huskie.

I'm a less husky Huskie....down 55 lbs since July 16 on the beef and whiskey diet.

Congratulations! That is really an admirable accomplishment.

I sort of put myself on a diet, too. I only eat hot dogs at Huskie Stadium. Since those have become rare, I, too, have lost some weight.
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(10-16-2019 05:22 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 04:29 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-16-2019 03:40 PM)HuskieTap22 Wrote:  NIU has been playing college football for 120 years and the huskie head has been on the helmet for what like 10 - 15 years in the entire history? How is that some big ball drop by athletics? The use of NI or NIU on the helmets has considerably more history. The addition of the huskie head is very much a “this century” design.


The Huskies were not known as the Huskies for all those years. And a favorite of everyone’s - the fighting Huskie - goes back to 1968. The Huskie or Huskie head has been part of tradition for many decades. We keep saying that NIU needs traditions. They have one right here, but they cast it off in favor of sanitized letters. What a shame.

Right but the fighting huskie wasn’t the only logo used on the helmets since 1968. Wasn’t it only used for a handful of seasons? From the 70s to 2000 the helmets were largely just a variation of the NI. I guess I just don’t see the helmet argument when you consider the huskie wasn’t used exclusively on helmets for most of NIU’s football history. NIU went multiple decades without the huskie.

It’s also not like the school changed its mascot so not sure how that equates to losing the huskie tradition. The live huskie mascot is a better tradition to me than a helmet.

I don't disagree, but how many people who aren't subscribed to Mission see him? I have yet to see him on TV in any of the games this season. I didn't see him on the field at the Boca Bowl, I assume that he was there but who knows? It's been a few years since I have lived close enough to go to games, but I recall seeing him maybe once or twice a game.

On the helmets, they are front and center in every single play on TV, including our opportunities for national broadcasts. Even better would be when your QB does a front flip into the end zone and makes the top 10 plays it is displayed prominently by millions of people. Just putting NIU on the helmet isn't working, because in that very same play they say "Northern Illinois".

If they want to force change, they have to start demanding the networks to use NIU.
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(10-18-2019 09:08 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:05 AM)cosine4 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.


And I’m a husky Huskie.

I'm a less husky Huskie....down 55 lbs since July 16 on the beef and whiskey diet.

Congratulations! That is really an admirable accomplishment.

I sort of put myself on a diet, too. I only eat hot dogs at Huskie Stadium. Since those have become rare, I, too, have lost some weight.

If you skip the bun, it is keto friendly lol
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(10-18-2019 09:24 AM)cosine4 Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:08 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-18-2019 09:05 AM)cosine4 Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:38 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  
(10-17-2019 09:17 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  When I read the "Husky stadium" I shuddered. Guess I'm a Huskie.


And I’m a husky Huskie.

I'm a less husky Huskie....down 55 lbs since July 16 on the beef and whiskey diet.

Congratulations! That is really an admirable accomplishment.

I sort of put myself on a diet, too. I only eat hot dogs at Huskie Stadium. Since those have become rare, I, too, have lost some weight.

If you skip the bun, it is keto friendly lol

HahahahahRimshot
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If we are going to keep those lame block letters and not get our huskie head back how about we become a sticker team then. We could put the huskie paw stickers on the helmets for big plays.
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I don’t know which I hate more. The amateur dog logo or when media don’t refer to us as niu. We need Niu helmets and niu media push!!
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Fraizer wasn't at Homecoming was he? Every time they announced some special guest, it wasn't Fraizer out there, but one of the assistants. Maybe he was meeting with ESPN to change our name to NIU and colors from Red and Black to Red and White.
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