Chris Ash was and is a gifted defensive coach. But in today's game your ceiling is much higher as an offensive guy with a: wide open, make your opponent defend the entire field, count numbers and exploit them kind of coach. From there you need to go and get a Chris Ash kind of guy to run the defense.

I know what you're thinking but was about Nick Saban or Mark D'Antonio? Both are great leaders of men but especially with Nick Saban I think he is the exception not the rule. Saban is hyper-organized, masterful teacher of fundamentals and base schemes, and because his recruiting is so excellent most years all they need at Bama is moderately competent passing game to complement their dominant running game and they'll chalk up 11-12 wins.
Mark D'Antonio is similar but with less talent to work with so when Sparty has a competent passing game they win 11ish games but when they don't they will win 4-6.

In Summary, when I look around the country at who is successful it is the by and large offenses that can up and surprise anyone. We all know that defense wins championships and I am a huge fan of aggressive defense, but in this era of college football the most successful coaches are offense first supplemented by a serviceable defense. You'd like to have both but if you are an up and coming program you don't have the talent to go toe to toe with Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, et cetera. But you can scheme your way to an upset if you have a dynamic offense. Otherwise you end up being a non-competitive team that plays okay defense but gets smashed because you can't score.

Moral of the story... I've heard rumblings of Greg Schiano. IMO huge mistake. His defense sucked at friggin Ohio State. We had an amazing amount of talent and with his scheme we looked below average. The B1G is not the old Big East. I think Rutgers fans long for the feeling of 2006 but that was then and this is now. I know Rutgers doesn't yet have their full allotment of B1G cash but you've gotta get a hot offensive coordinator at a school putting up a ton of points. Jersey has the talent, give them something they want to stay home for like the Wrestling program is doing.

Rutgers can take Mike Locksley off Maryland's hands.

The difference between Ash and Schiano is that Schiano is a proven great recruiter with a ton of charisma, personality and inspires confidence when you hear him speak. Ash has none of this, he's a respectable guy with a solid defensive mind, but zero charisma hence his results recruiting his own state. Saying you came from Ohio State only works when you first start, after a year the results matter most and his teams were completely ill-prepared, undisciplined, and were poorly coached overall... and his own former players even started making snarky remarks on Twitter.

One thing that Greg always did with his teams was prepare his players very well and at least for his defensive players he got them to reach their potential as college prospects, hence the pipeline to New England and the love from Belichick.

I would love to see Rutgers say, steal Mike Leach from Wazzu and have an offense that puts up 40+ on everyone, but if we get Greg back I won't complain - he's a proven commodity that recruits and players respond to. Hopefully after coaching at OSU and seeing a bit of New England's style, he'll look to hire an OC who pushes the ball, but in 2006 when the offense had that roster of future NFL players/prospects Ray Rice, Brian Leonard, Tiquan Underwood, Kenny Britt, Tim Brown, Shawn Tucker, Clark Harris, Mike Teel, Willie Foster, Jeremy Zuttah, Darnell Stapleton, Cam Stephenson, Pedro Sosa, and Mike Fladell their offense was putting up great numbers and could score on anyone... and their defense was even more nasty.

(09-29-2019 09:26 PM)Big Ron Buckeye Wrote:  Chris Ash was and is a gifted defensive coach. But in today's game your ceiling is much higher as an offensive guy with a: wide open, make your opponent defend the entire field, count numbers and exploit them kind of coach. From there you need to go and get a Chris Ash kind of guy to run the defense.

I know what you're thinking but was about Nick Saban or Mark D'Antonio? Both are great leaders of men but especially with Nick Saban I think he is the exception not the rule. Saban is hyper-organized, masterful teacher of fundamentals and base schemes, and because his recruiting is so excellent most years all they need at Bama is moderately competent passing game to complement their dominant running game and they'll chalk up 11-12 wins.
Mark D'Antonio is similar but with less talent to work with so when Sparty has a competent passing game they win 11ish games but when they don't they will win 4-6.

In Summary, when I look around the country at who is successful it is the by and large offenses that can up and surprise anyone. We all know that defense wins championships and I am a huge fan of aggressive defense, but in this era of college football the most successful coaches are offense first supplemented by a serviceable defense. You'd like to have both but if you are an up and coming program you don't have the talent to go toe to toe with Ohio State, Clemson, Georgia, Alabama, et cetera. But you can scheme your way to an upset if you have a dynamic offense. Otherwise you end up being a non-competitive team that plays okay defense but gets smashed because you can't score.

Moral of the story... I've heard rumblings of Greg Schiano. IMO huge mistake. His defense sucked at friggin Ohio State. We had an amazing amount of talent and with his scheme we looked below average. The B1G is not the old Big East. I think Rutgers fans long for the feeling of 2006 but that was then and this is now. I know Rutgers doesn't yet have their full allotment of B1G cash but you've gotta get a hot offensive coordinator at a school putting up a ton of points. Jersey has the talent, give them something they want to stay home for like the Wrestling program is doing.

From where we stand right now, we have a long way to go up to the defenses Schiano used to run at Rutgers. Even if he comes in and gets us to a point where the only hope of victory is a body bag game, it's a major improvement.

We're not looking to be dominant -- just competitive. Same way we felt at the end of the Shea error.

If Schiano wants the job it’s his. Ash inherited a dumpster fire and he did a great job with improving the program infrastructure. Rutgers needs at the minimum a Northeast coach and preferably a New Jersey guy. I would rank Schiano #1 and assuming Moorehead and Addazio might be available #2 and #3. If Hobbs goes the coordinator route, then Eklo or Hafley. Anyway, I would keep Nunzio as OC and try to get Anthony back to the Banks.

(09-29-2019 09:54 PM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  Rutgers can take Mike Locksley off Maryland's hands.

You can keep him.

I'm fine with Schiano being the next coach of Rutgers. If it's not him, I want a guy on the offensive side of the ball who is committed to an scheme.

People have thrown out Jeff Monken's name, and while I don't think a lot of Rutgers fans like the idea of being a triple option team, I'd be okay with it.

(10-03-2019 07:09 AM)General Mike Wrote:  I'm fine with Schiano being the next coach of Rutgers. If it's not him, I want a guy on the offensive side of the ball who is committed to an scheme.

People have thrown out Jeff Monken's name, and while I don't think a lot of Rutgers fans like the idea of being a triple option team, I'd be okay with it.

People don't like the triple option but nobody wants to play the service academies and Nebraska was a monster for the better part of 4 decades running the triple option and power I formation stuff. Hell, I would argue that all of the prolific offenses that we see (Air Raid, run pass option, qb read, etc) are all version of options. Right now Rutgers has nothing to lose going hard core service academy triple option and from that base add in some power, sweeps, counter, run pass option and play action. Pro style doesn't work with inferior talent.