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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Navy Game Thread*** (9/26)
(09-27-2019 02:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
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(09-27-2019 12:28 AM)mempho_to_diego Wrote:  reread the game thread ... love how chrisd11 was posting all kinds of nonsense in the first half and made a few posts in the second half and eventually disappeared. lol ... smdh.

we were all asking the same thing in the first half ... it was definitely a head scratcher. thankfully, the half-time talk that norvell had with brady worked - albeit, not on the first drive out the gate of the 2nd half.

but if we get brady white from the first half for an entire game, we are in trouble.

and that guy that had the "WE WANT ALABAMA" sign at the game ... smdh ... ummm, no ... WE DON'T.

I understand getting frustrated in the heat of the moment about players not making plays, and our team losing. Last night easily could have been a rout against us.

What I don't understand are "fans" who biatch when things go wrong, but then shut up when they go right.

Were you at the game last night? In my section there was a lot of booing Brady White in the first half. It sounded like it was pretty much all over the stadium to me at certain times.

He made a few good throws in the 2nd half but we hit 3 big plays and had a mammoth defensive effort to win. Brady made a nice throw on the fly pattern but he is so rattled by pressure and refuses to run even when he has tons of room. Plus he doesn't seem to get the ball out fast when blitz is coming (though that may be a play-calling issue with no hot routes or short routes). Seems like the coaches just had him throwing WR screens in the second half because they didn't trust they could keep pocket clean or he could make the throws.

The pass to Coxie for the touchdown was an NFL throw. Absolutely perfect, he recognized that hitting him in stride would have gotten him blown up by the safety, so the throw caused him to stop his route, which ended up creating the touchdown.

Our receivers are fine, but we don't have anyone close to the caliber of Anthony Miller on the field. Our guys struggle to get separation, so downfield passing can be tough. In general, Brady does a good job of not placing the ball in dangerous spots, and sometimes that means eating a sack if you can't throw it away.

I will agree that Brady had a terrible first half, but aside from the first drive, he was great in the second half. If you are going to call him out for the first half, you should give credit for the second half performance as well.

hahah, sorry man, it was a good throw, but if you think White has the kind of accuracy and anticipation to have thrown that ball in just a way for the receiver to slow down just a little to make the pass perfect, you are out of your mind.

It was a good throw, but it wasnt a bullet, especially watching the replays, there was some wobble and some shot duck going on there.

Lord, even when he makes a perfect throw, in the exact right spot, it was actually a bad throw that he got lucky on.

Got it.
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Gonna be a long year for the Brady bashers. Not spectacular but incredibly efficient.
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(09-27-2019 02:41 PM)holyterror Wrote:  I think it showed more that Coxie could be an NFL receiver than that Brady can be an nfl quarterback.
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Miller was great at adjusting to catch a less than perfect ball.

If anyone disagrees with that, they are on thin ice at best. I am a HUGE Brady White defender, but I have no illusions that he is an NFL QB.

Coxie didn't bail him out on the throw, it was a good throw that required Coxie to adjust which also put him in the endzone. Had Coxie not had to adjust and the ball is thrown in front of his route, he is creamed and possibly drops the pass
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Navy Game Thread*** (9/26)
I just watched Coxie’s catch about 5 times. The above is how I saw it too.

But in truth ... I stopped listening to the opinions about Tiger players here when so many of y’all were sure Tony Pollard wasn’t ready for the NFL.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Navy Game Thread*** (9/26)
(09-27-2019 07:07 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 02:33 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 02:05 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 09:34 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 09:00 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I understand getting frustrated in the heat of the moment about players not making plays, and our team losing. Last night easily could have been a rout against us.

What I don't understand are "fans" who biatch when things go wrong, but then shut up when they go right.

Were you at the game last night? In my section there was a lot of booing Brady White in the first half. It sounded like it was pretty much all over the stadium to me at certain times.

He made a few good throws in the 2nd half but we hit 3 big plays and had a mammoth defensive effort to win. Brady made a nice throw on the fly pattern but he is so rattled by pressure and refuses to run even when he has tons of room. Plus he doesn't seem to get the ball out fast when blitz is coming (though that may be a play-calling issue with no hot routes or short routes). Seems like the coaches just had him throwing WR screens in the second half because they didn't trust they could keep pocket clean or he could make the throws.

The pass to Coxie for the touchdown was an NFL throw. Absolutely perfect, he recognized that hitting him in stride would have gotten him blown up by the safety, so the throw caused him to stop his route, which ended up creating the touchdown.

Our receivers are fine, but we don't have anyone close to the caliber of Anthony Miller on the field. Our guys struggle to get separation, so downfield passing can be tough. In general, Brady does a good job of not placing the ball in dangerous spots, and sometimes that means eating a sack if you can't throw it away.

I will agree that Brady had a terrible first half, but aside from the first drive, he was great in the second half. If you are going to call him out for the first half, you should give credit for the second half performance as well.

hahah, sorry man, it was a good throw, but if you think White has the kind of accuracy and anticipation to have thrown that ball in just a way for the receiver to slow down just a little to make the pass perfect, you are out of your mind.

It was a good throw, but it wasnt a bullet, especially watching the replays, there was some wobble and some shot duck going on there.

Lord, even when he makes a perfect throw, in the exact right spot, it was actually a bad throw that he got lucky on.

Got it.

Lord I said it was a good throw more than once. Maybe you should have read before you quoted and posted it.

Glad you got it.
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RE: ***Official Memphis vs Navy Game Thread*** (9/26)
(09-27-2019 01:35 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-26-2019 11:15 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Just got home.

That was fun. Navy dominated the first quarter and a half but immediately after going up 20-7 we owned the rest starting with the kick return for a TD. Well done after a very tough start.

I am sure posters here went apeshit when Brady turned it over and failed to run on those two broken plays. But same with him. He had a handful of bad plays but instead of moping he kept playing and finished well.

He needs to think faster when pressured but better to work on that in a win. Obviously.

That's the biggest problem with him, and unfortunately, that is like telling a dude to just "Be taller". You either can, or you can't. I mean, beta blockers, but that's probably considered a PED.

Interestingly enough, it's not.

Not for football, at least. The NCAA only counts them as PEDs if you're in rifle. Or any other sport without a valid prescription, I presume.
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(09-27-2019 11:22 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 01:35 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(09-26-2019 11:15 PM)Mimi Wrote:  Just got home.

That was fun. Navy dominated the first quarter and a half but immediately after going up 20-7 we owned the rest starting with the kick return for a TD. Well done after a very tough start.

I am sure posters here went apeshit when Brady turned it over and failed to run on those two broken plays. But same with him. He had a handful of bad plays but instead of moping he kept playing and finished well.

He needs to think faster when pressured but better to work on that in a win. Obviously.

That's the biggest problem with him, and unfortunately, that is like telling a dude to just "Be taller". You either can, or you can't. I mean, beta blockers, but that's probably considered a PED.

Interestingly enough, it's not.

Not for football, at least. The NCAA only counts them as PEDs if you're in rifle. Or any other sport without a valid prescription, I presume.

I remember when the PGA tour was struggling with whether or not to ban them because it gave the guys a competitive edge on the putting greens. I don't remember if they eventually did or didn't. Back in the 90s, I think.
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(09-27-2019 10:11 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 02:41 PM)holyterror Wrote:  I think it showed more that Coxie could be an NFL receiver than that Brady can be an nfl quarterback.
If you follow.
Miller was great at adjusting to catch a less than perfect ball.

If anyone disagrees with that, they are on thin ice at best. I am a HUGE Brady White defender, but I have no illusions that he is an NFL QB.

Coxie didn't bail him out on the throw, it was a good throw that required Coxie to adjust which also put him in the endzone. Had Coxie not had to adjust and the ball is thrown in front of his route, he is creamed and possibly drops the pass

I said that it was an NFL throw, I didn't say he was an NFL QB. I'd be shocked if he was ever in the NFL.
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(09-27-2019 11:17 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I just watched Coxie’s catch about 5 times. The above is how I saw it too.

But in truth ... I stopped listening to the opinions about Tiger players here when so many of y’all were sure Tony Pollard wasn’t ready for the NFL.

Guilty!
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(09-28-2019 11:50 AM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 10:11 PM)tigernole79 Wrote:  
(09-27-2019 02:41 PM)holyterror Wrote:  I think it showed more that Coxie could be an NFL receiver than that Brady can be an nfl quarterback.
If you follow.
Miller was great at adjusting to catch a less than perfect ball.

If anyone disagrees with that, they are on thin ice at best. I am a HUGE Brady White defender, but I have no illusions that he is an NFL QB.

Coxie didn't bail him out on the throw, it was a good throw that required Coxie to adjust which also put him in the endzone. Had Coxie not had to adjust and the ball is thrown in front of his route, he is creamed and possibly drops the pass

I said that it was an NFL throw, I didn't say he was an NFL QB. I'd be shocked if he was ever in the NFL.

Agreed. That was a perfect pass.
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First off, congrats to the tigers on win #1 in conference. Nice 2nd half by the defense and finally the play calling opened up.

I didn't boo brady, and no one around me boo'd him, but there was a lot of grumbling about the ultra conservative play calling and on the fumble. how does brady, who is a smart qb, not see that the navy guy was there ready to blitz? Certainly he didn't think he could outrun or avoid it.

I do like connor's arm better, and i've said it from day 1, but the coach likes brady. Imo, the playcalling is limited in certain situations, but brady generally does not make too many mistakes. He just misses a lot of throws. The coach is going to stick with him, so i'm just gonna try to stay patient with him. I don't understand why they don't target the TE's a little more. They are bigger targets generally. If you watch brady, a lot of his completions are to a running back coming out of the back field or a screen to the rb, then you have the quick hit throws mostly going under 5 yards to either side. Most of his completions over 10 yards are directly in front of him. His % of completions over 10 yards and outside the box have to be much lower.

I'm not a fan of #22 getting any playing time. I was one of the first here being critical of him. He hasn't played much at all this year so far. Being at the game and considering the tigers wore black, it is extremely hard to read the numbers. I had no idea that #22 played a lot until i watched the replay on tv so that explains some of the bad plays by the defense. They are always playing with 10 guys on defense when he is on the field.

And if you watch the replay of the kick off return, #22 held a navy guy for close to 10 yards until gabriel rogers had passed. We are lucky that kickoff return did not get called back. It's an obvious penalty, and it did change the possible outcome of that play. Imo, #22 is not good enough to play this level of football. If he continues to play more, i suspect the defense will return to a defense of the past couple years.

Oh yeah, big props to Al Kapone for rapping live the remix to eye of the tiger which is our entrance music this year. Imo, other memphis rappers should take note. All of them could perform live at games and tweak their lyrics to be more family friendly. All they have to do is make up new lyrics to some of their hits songs and the tigers fans and players will love it. It isn't that hard, so again big props to Al Kapone on the remix of eye of the tiger.

Go Tigers Go !!!
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(10-01-2019 12:59 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  First off, congrats to the tigers on win #1 in conference. Nice 2nd half by the defense and finally the play calling opened up.

I didn't boo brady, and no one around me boo'd him, but there was a lot of grumbling about the ultra conservative play calling and on the fumble. how does brady, who is a smart qb, not see that the navy guy was there ready to blitz? Certainly he didn't think he could outrun or avoid it.

I do like connor's arm better, and i've said it from day 1, but the coach likes brady. Imo, the playcalling is limited in certain situations, but brady generally does not make too many mistakes. He just misses a lot of throws. The coach is going to stick with him, so i'm just gonna try to stay patient with him. I don't understand why they don't target the TE's a little more. They are bigger targets generally. If you watch brady, a lot of his completions are to a running back coming out of the back field or a screen to the rb, then you have the quick hit throws mostly going under 5 yards to either side. Most of his completions over 10 yards are directly in front of him. His % of completions over 10 yards and outside the box have to be much lower.

I'm not a fan of #22 getting any playing time. I was one of the first here being critical of him. He hasn't played much at all this year so far. Being at the game and considering the tigers wore black, it is extremely hard to read the numbers. I had no idea that #22 played a lot until i watched the replay on tv so that explains some of the bad plays by the defense. They are always playing with 10 guys on defense when he is on the field.

And if you watch the replay of the kick off return, #22 held a navy guy for close to 10 yards until gabriel rogers had passed. We are lucky that kickoff return did not get called back. It's an obvious penalty, and it did change the possible outcome of that play. Imo, #22 is not good enough to play this level of football. If he continues to play more, i suspect the defense will return to a defense of the past couple years.

Oh yeah, big props to Al Kapone for rapping live the remix to eye of the tiger which is our entrance music this year. Imo, other memphis rappers should take note. All of them could perform live at games and tweak their lyrics to be more family friendly. All they have to do is make up new lyrics to some of their hits songs and the tigers fans and players will love it. It isn't that hard, so again big props to Al Kapone on the remix of eye of the tiger.

Go Tigers Go !!!

#1, On the fumble. I really don't fault Brady 100% on the sack, but that he fumbled was TOTALLY avoidable, because he definitely saw him coming. I know he did, because he turned and was running for his life from him as soon as he got the ball. The problem was, he didn't tuck the ball. He was running from the blitzer with the ball in his right hand flailing around.

#2, that Navy guy on the kickoff runback was showboating for a holding call with his left arm waving around in order to draw attention. The refs saw him. You can bet on it. I watched it live, and 2 times on replay. He was not held.
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There's holding on virtually every play - particularly on two of the long Navy runs off sweeps there were no flags with Navy OL players still holding even after the Memphis defenders had turned their backs on the blockers. Both of those plays led to Navy scores.
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(10-01-2019 12:59 PM)tmoneyinmphs Wrote:  First off, congrats to the tigers on win #1 in conference. Nice 2nd half by the defense and finally the play calling opened up.

I didn't boo brady, and no one around me boo'd him, but there was a lot of grumbling about the ultra conservative play calling and on the fumble. how does brady, who is a smart qb, not see that the navy guy was there ready to blitz? Certainly he didn't think he could outrun or avoid it.

I do like connor's arm better, and i've said it from day 1, but the coach likes brady. Imo, the playcalling is limited in certain situations, but brady generally does not make too many mistakes. He just misses a lot of throws. The coach is going to stick with him, so i'm just gonna try to stay patient with him. I don't understand why they don't target the TE's a little more. They are bigger targets generally. If you watch brady, a lot of his completions are to a running back coming out of the back field or a screen to the rb, then you have the quick hit throws mostly going under 5 yards to either side. Most of his completions over 10 yards are directly in front of him. His % of completions over 10 yards and outside the box have to be much lower.

I'm not a fan of #22 getting any playing time. I was one of the first here being critical of him. He hasn't played much at all this year so far. Being at the game and considering the tigers wore black, it is extremely hard to read the numbers. I had no idea that #22 played a lot until i watched the replay on tv so that explains some of the bad plays by the defense. They are always playing with 10 guys on defense when he is on the field.

And if you watch the replay of the kick off return, #22 held a navy guy for close to 10 yards until gabriel rogers had passed. We are lucky that kickoff return did not get called back. It's an obvious penalty, and it did change the possible outcome of that play. Imo, #22 is not good enough to play this level of football. If he continues to play more, i suspect the defense will return to a defense of the past couple years.

Oh yeah, big props to Al Kapone for rapping live the remix to eye of the tiger which is our entrance music this year. Imo, other memphis rappers should take note. All of them could perform live at games and tweak their lyrics to be more family friendly. All they have to do is make up new lyrics to some of their hits songs and the tigers fans and players will love it. It isn't that hard, so again big props to Al Kapone on the remix of eye of the tiger.

Go Tigers Go !!!

Good to see so many here know more than someone who is already one of the most successful coaches in Tigers history. Veatch won't have to look far for the next coach, if Norvell leaves. Just spend 5 minutes on this board.
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