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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

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Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

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Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

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Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

It’s a useless task trying to understand A41’s sick obsessive hate for UL, ULM and the SBC. It’s just something we need to accept and yet point out Hud bs as many times as we come across it.
10-17-2021 08:14 PM
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-17-2021 08:14 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

It’s a useless task trying to understand A41’s sick obsessive hate for UL, ULM and the SBC. It’s just something we need to accept and yet point out Hud bs as many times as we come across it.

He hates UConn too (and probably others) so he shares the love around.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-17-2021 08:25 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 08:14 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

It’s a useless task trying to understand A41’s sick obsessive hate for UL, ULM and the SBC. It’s just something we need to accept and yet point out Hud bs as many times as we come across it.

He hates UConn too (and probably others) so he shares the love around.

I don't hate UConn. I have a great deal of respect for what Geno Auriemma has done with the women's basketball program there over the last 20 years. I get annoyed when someone says a potentially dying conference should invite a member in the only sport they underperform in with no direct incentive to the schools left in that conference because playing that school's underperforming sports team is a privilege because of the school's other sports they'll never have the opportunity to play.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-17-2021 08:25 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 08:14 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

It’s a useless task trying to understand A41’s sick obsessive hate for UL, ULM and the SBC. It’s just something we need to accept and yet point out Hud bs as many times as we come across it.

He hates UConn too (and probably others) so he shares the love around.

Also, I don't hate ULM like the socialist, FrankyP, says. They have that league's most marquee non-conference win at this point. Their suffering has been long, and I really hope they do well. I really hope they humble the Lafayette Cajuns the way they humbled Liberty.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

When Texas State decided to make the move to FBS there was a student vote on raising the student fees to cover athletics. It was made very clear that by voting yes, they would be charged money to be used to make the move up and to maintain athletics at the FBS level. The students voted with around 60% say yes to the new fee. Would the students of today vote yes? I don't think it would be a problem if we were winning, however its been a very long time since we've had a winning season. Regardless, student-led efforts such as these make it not a huge deal for us.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-17-2021 10:00 PM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

When Texas State decided to make the move to FBS there was a student vote on raising the student fees to cover athletics. It was made very clear that by voting yes, they would be charged money to be used to make the move up and to maintain athletics at the FBS level. The students voted with around 60% say yes to the new fee. Would the students of today vote yes? I don't think it would be a problem if we were winning, however its been a very long time since we've had a winning season. Regardless, student-led efforts such as these make it not a huge deal for us.

We had a vote on raising property tax rates to fund a new library.

Voting to tax yourself is still a tax.

None of that goes to my point. The other poster said some schools were losing money. The fact is anyone needing a student fee or university transfer to make their budget is losing money on athletics
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
Southern Miss had a chance.

They built a nice tradition back when they were one of the only non-SEC schools in SEC territory. As a result, they got a lot of great athletes who weren't quite SEC-level and didn't want to venture too far from home.

But then the 1990s saw UCF, USF, UAB, Western Kentucky, MTSU, Arkansas St, Louisiana-Monroe, Troy St, etc. join FBS, and recruiting became much more competitive.

After Bower left, the tradition began to fade and they just became a face in the crowd.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
Is this a done deal now?
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-22-2021 03:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Is this a done deal now?

Yep. Pretty much.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
I called this 2 years ago. That’s why I’m bumping it. Please give me credit
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:04 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Op here. I proposed this question 2 years ago. It’s time for Marshall and USM to join the Belt.

You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(10-17-2021 10:32 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-17-2021 10:00 PM)TxSt1992 Wrote:  
(10-15-2021 08:22 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 08:36 PM)All4One Wrote:  
(10-14-2021 09:27 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  You think the SB would be willing to take the hit in FB performance by taking them?

05-stirthepot

Or a larger financial hit? 8 of the Sun Belt's 12 schools (including both of its basketball schools) all lost money in 2019/2020 according to the recent data provided by USA Today. Contrast to CUSA where only 2 of the 14 members lost any money in which one of those two was Marshall.

Per USA Today every SBC and CUSA school lost money because they had to have the school or students make up shortfalls and all but two CUSA needed students and the school to provide more than half operating capital.

Only in intercollegiate athletics is taxing students and diverting university funds considered making money.

When Texas State decided to make the move to FBS there was a student vote on raising the student fees to cover athletics. It was made very clear that by voting yes, they would be charged money to be used to make the move up and to maintain athletics at the FBS level. The students voted with around 60% say yes to the new fee. Would the students of today vote yes? I don't think it would be a problem if we were winning, however its been a very long time since we've had a winning season. Regardless, student-led efforts such as these make it not a huge deal for us.

We had a vote on raising property tax rates to fund a new library.

Voting to tax yourself is still a tax.

None of that goes to my point. The other poster said some schools were losing money. The fact is anyone needing a student fee or university transfer to make their budget is losing money on athletics
It happened
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(11-01-2021 12:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I called this 2 years ago. That’s why I’m bumping it. Please give me credit

Calling it and posing a question are two vastly different definitions for what actually happened here. You asked a question and even included “I’m not trolling.”

Kudos to asking the question.
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RE: Why doesn’t Southern Miss and Marshall join the Sun Belt?
(11-01-2021 12:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I called this 2 years ago. That’s why I’m bumping it. Please give me credit

01-ncaabbs congrats. Nobody thought this was a realistic move 2 years ago. Time to give credit where credit is due.
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