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How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?

It could be no amount is enough, could be millions or thousands.

For a round number say 50k per team for a 600k 5 year term.
These are desperate times and seems UMass has started schedule the MAC any how.

Say UConn could be convince as well for 4 games a year and that would be 1.2 M to the MAC and even say charge 100k annual dues and would be 2.2 Million.

Obviously neither of us would be ready for competing to be ahead of the general pool regarding a bowl after all MAC teams.

Is it even enough to start a conversation?
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
UConn all sports? Free.
UMass? 5 million per team.
We don't want UMass. They don't bring anything but okay basketball to the table. Travel sucks butt to Amherst.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
(09-23-2019 02:46 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  UConn all sports? Free.
UMass? 5 million per team.
We don't want UMass. They don't bring anything but okay basketball to the table. Travel sucks butt to Amherst.

That is fine, just asking before posting on the realignment board.

With some feedback, will rephrase or refine it there by saying 3M so UMass and UConn could pay for the 4 game affiliation for 5 years with just one additional buy game each.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
(09-23-2019 02:46 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  UConn all sports? Free.
UMass? 5 million per team.
We don't want UMass. They don't bring anything but okay basketball to the table. Travel sucks butt to Amherst.

$5 million isn't enough. UMass basketball is straight up trash. Last year their Massey Composite score was 232, which would have ranked 12th in the MAC.

Those of you who think UMass has a good basketball team need to wake the F up. Cheatipari was TWENTY THREE YEARS AGO. They've done absolutely nothing since he left.
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(09-24-2019 07:38 AM)zibby Wrote:  
(09-23-2019 02:46 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  UConn all sports? Free.
UMass? 5 million per team.
We don't want UMass. They don't bring anything but okay basketball to the table. Travel sucks butt to Amherst.

$5 million isn't enough. UMass basketball is straight up trash. Last year their Massey Composite score was 232, which would have ranked 12th in the MAC.

Those of you who think UMass has a good basketball team need to wake the F up. Cheatipari was TWENTY THREE YEARS AGO. They've done absolutely nothing since he left.

Wait, what? They still have Marcus Camby, don’t they? He’s good.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
Catch-22. The amount to buy oneself into the MAC would end up draining said funds to improve their program for the MAC to want them in.

Obviously depends who they are. UConn? For all their sports -- they'd get a free pass due to their BBall team. And their FBall team at least has some future promise, as they did go to a BCS Bowl for winning the Big East one year. But years around that have been on the UMass-ish level most of the time.

UMass is arguably in a better conference, year-in-year-out over time, but not last year, and clearly not every year Above it.

I could only see UConn joining all sports for the MAC if their BBall team went downhill and their football team couldn't get the engine started + the AAC ended up getting crazy and teams bailing, while the MW saying NO for them joining.
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(09-24-2019 08:39 AM)toddjnsn Wrote:  Catch-22. The amount to buy oneself into the MAC would end up draining said funds to improve their program for the MAC to want them in.

Obviously depends who they are. UConn? For all their sports -- they'd get a free pass due to their BBall team. And their FBall team at least has some future promise, as they did go to a BCS Bowl for winning the Big East one year. But years around that have been on the UMass-ish level most of the time.

UMass is arguably in a better conference, year-in-year-out over time, but not last year, and clearly not every year Above it.

I could only see UConn joining all sports for the MAC if their BBall team went downhill and their football team couldn't get the engine started + the AAC ended up getting crazy and teams bailing, while the MW saying NO for them joining.

In that scenario (UConn joining all sports)... I could see Temple as a viable option to return to the MAC.
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If Marshall ever wants to return, UConn-FB/NKU-BB would be the perfect combo.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
It's silly to talk about buying conference affiliation anyway, when a scheduling agreement and a back-up agreement with some conference bowl(s) would suffice.

But the answer is, if you need to pay more than a traveling cost subsidy to get a single-sport affiliation with a conference, you probably shouldn't be trying to get into that conference.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
UMass has nothing left to give that makes them worth admission...

I'd consider taking UmAss all sports if, and only if, another team wanted to join with them.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
this thread is just silly speculation, sorry, and uconn is already joining the big east for basketball. for sh!ts n giggles i would take uconn as a mac football member for free in return for multiple mens and womens home and home basketball games. storrs is closer to providence and nyc but like amherst it isn't any easy to visit place. umass is stuck being a little too good for most northeast schools but not good enough to draw an invite to a bigger conference outside their region. they gotta be creative.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
(09-24-2019 10:09 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  If Marshall ever wants to return, UConn-FB/NKU-BB would be the perfect combo.

I doubt the MAC presidents would see this as a peer institution.
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RE: How much if any is enough to buy a way into a conference affiliation?
I'd bite on UMASS all sports. People recognize the UMASS-Amherst name. But they'd have to bring in all sports. No more 'football only' junk.

I might be willing to do UCONN everything-but-basketball.
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(09-25-2019 04:08 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I'd bite on UMASS all sports. People recognize the UMASS-Amherst name. But they'd have to bring in all sports. No more 'football only' junk.

I might be willing to do UCONN everything-but-basketball.

Everything but Basketball is not an option, Basketball has to be your multi-sport conference, and multi-sport conferences normally require you to play your other sports in their conference if they sponsor it.

So UConn Men's Basketball into the new Big East means UConn Women's Basketball and all other "Olympic Sports" the Big East plays into the new Big East.
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