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RE: Why UCF has never deserved to be in CFP contention
(09-21-2019 10:52 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
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(09-21-2019 10:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 09:10 PM)goofus Wrote:  Of course, finally some proof.

Since UCF lost to Pitt in 2019, that means the 2017 team should never have been considered for the CFP. I am glad this finally settles that argument.

It does show how silly it is to argue CFP inclusion for any team that has only a bunch of G5 wins to their credit. Those games mean very little by that standard.

So is it the best 4 teams or the 4 best resumes? Of course, with you P5 circle jerkers, it’s a constant case of moving the line to whatever screws over the G5 teams, so it’s really an irrelevant question I suppose.

The best 4 teams. But honestly, how can anyone look like one of the best 4 teams beating only G5?

24-0 vs 4-2. That's a big difference.
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24 - 0

4 - 2

Sorry, but that's not a coincidence.

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(09-21-2019 10:28 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  I don't know if he realizes he is arguing against USF ever making the playoff if they ever go undefeated ...

My arguments don't depend on whether my school benefits or not.


24 - 0 vs 4-2 is pretty damning.
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(09-21-2019 10:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCF did deserve playoff inclusion last year, all AAC fans know it
Boise deserved BCS bowls many years, No AAC fans want to admit it
We all are a part of the same hypocrisy

Only the AAC fanboys believed that nonsense. Talk about circle jerk. You guys can go to your safe space in the AAC boards and claim UCF won the 2017 title.04-rock
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RE: Why UCF has never deserved to be in CFP contention
If you were actually interested in making a stronger point, you’d use something like Top 50 in S&P+ or something rather than P5 vs G5. Bet you’d probably get similar results too.

Being P5 doesn’t make a team good. Being good at football makes a team good. Groundbreaking stuff here, I know.

But that wasn’t the real point of your post and everyone knows it.
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RE: Why UCF has never deserved to be in CFP contention
(09-22-2019 09:13 AM)PicksUp Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCF did deserve playoff inclusion last year, all AAC fans know it
Boise deserved BCS bowls many years, No AAC fans want to admit it
We all are a part of the same hypocrisy

Only the AAC fanboys believed that nonsense. Talk about circle jerk. You guys can go to your safe space in the AAC boards and claim UCF won the 2017 title.04-rock
When was the last time UTEP was relevant? Oh yeah never.
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RE: Why UCF has never deserved to be in CFP contention
A team on a two + year winning streak, ranked by just about the entire known college football world
goes on the road and loses by one point to a fair to middling ACC team. Good grief the horror. Whatever happened to the on-any-given-day tagline used by all the almost or used to be blue blood programs that get their nuts kicked in by one of the world's have-nots? UCF may or may not be as good this year as in past years but to come to a definitive conclusion based on a 1 point loss on the road in an effort to validate some preconceived signature anti AAC mantra is not just silly its fully contrived and valueless.
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(09-22-2019 09:42 AM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  A team on a two + year winning streak, ranked by just about the entire known college football world
goes on the road and loses by one point to a fair to middling ACC team. Good grief the horror. Whatever happened to the on-any-given-day tagline used by all the almost or used to be blue blood programs that get their nuts kicked in by one of the world's have-nots? UCF may or may not be as good this year as in past years but to come to a definitive conclusion based on a 1 point loss on the road in an effort to validate some preconceived signature anti AAC mantra is not just silly its fully contrived and valueless.
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With the UCF loss to Pitt and SMU's upset of TCU, the AAC record vs P 5's is now 5 - 11 with 2 to go.

P 6 my a**.
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MWC is 5 - 2 vs P5. They might have a claim.
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Please show us on the doll where the AAC hurt you
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(09-21-2019 08:49 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Since the start of 2017, when UCF exploded as a G5 supernova, what is their record against G5 and FCS opponents?

24 - 0

What is their record against P5 opponents?

4 - 2

That's right, Mighty UCF, with all the undefeated streaks and whatever, is a whopping 4-2 vs the P5 since the start of 2017.

Does 4 - 2 vs P5 get any P5 team a sniff at the playoffs? No it doesn't.

And it's not like UCF has played a murderer's row. Here are the six P5 teams they've played, and their records:

Maryland (4-8)
Auburn (10-4)
Pitt (7-7)
LSU (10-3)
Stanford (1-2)
Pitt (2-2)

That's two teams with winning records, two with losing records, and two with .500 records. And Stanford is going to be 1-3 before I'm done typing this.

That's UCF vs the P5 over 2 years and 1/3 of a third. But it's just a typical 6-game stretch in a single season for most P5 schools, and 4-2 against it might not even get you ranked in the top 25, much less the playoffs.

UCF has never had any kind of claim to sniff the CFP. Ever.

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Meh, expand playoff. Each conference champ gets in. Should UCF die the play off so be it. Should they win it out good for them. At least give them the chance.
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(09-22-2019 10:58 AM)westwolf Wrote:  With the UCF loss to Pitt and SMU's upset of TCU, the AAC record vs P 5's is now 5 - 11 with 2 to go.

P 6 my a**.

I was surprised by both of those wins but happy for those teams.

I agree with your last statement.
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(09-22-2019 09:15 AM)stxrunner Wrote:  If you were actually interested in making a stronger point, you’d use something like Top 50 in S&P+ or something rather than P5 vs G5. Bet you’d probably get similar results too.

Being P5 doesn’t make a team good. Being good at football makes a team good. Groundbreaking stuff here, I know.

But that wasn’t the real point of your post and everyone knows it.

If i would get similar results using SP then i wouldn't be making a stronger argument.

Like it or not, P5 and G5 are distinctions people make, so its a basis for comparison. And while some G5 are better than some P5, as a category, P5 are better.

24-0 vs 4-2 is not a coincidence.
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(09-22-2019 09:42 AM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  A team on a two + year winning streak, ranked by just about the entire known college football world
goes on the road and loses by one point to a fair to middling ACC team. Good grief the horror. Whatever happened to the on-any-given-day tagline used by all the almost or used to be blue blood programs that get their nuts kicked in by one of the world's have-nots? UCF may or may not be as good this year as in past years but to come to a definitive conclusion based on a 1 point loss on the road in an effort to validate some preconceived signature anti AAC mantra is not just silly its fully contrived and valueless.

If you weren't so badly biased, you would realize your statement was nonsensical. Because rather than drawing a conclusion based on one game, i drew it based on all of the games since 2017.

That's what 24-0 and 4-2 refer to. Literally all the games

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(09-22-2019 01:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:42 AM)RockyMTNTiger Wrote:  A team on a two + year winning streak, ranked by just about the entire known college football world
goes on the road and loses by one point to a fair to middling ACC team. Good grief the horror. Whatever happened to the on-any-given-day tagline used by all the almost or used to be blue blood programs that get their nuts kicked in by one of the world's have-nots? UCF may or may not be as good this year as in past years but to come to a definitive conclusion based on a 1 point loss on the road in an effort to validate some preconceived signature anti AAC mantra is not just silly its fully contrived and valueless.

If you weren't so badly biased, you would realize your statement was nonsensical. Because rather than drawing a conclusion based on one game, i drew it based on all of the games since 2017.

That's what 24-0 and 4-2 refer to. Literally all the games

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Badly biased? Nonsensical? Please child. You chose to trot this post out after a 1 point on the road loss by a team in the midst of a huge winning period: its your myopia that leads you down these pointless and vapid arguments in a sort of comical effort to support some deep personal paranoia and hurt you carry. Get real.
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(09-22-2019 06:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:52 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:11 PM)Blazer4Life14 Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  It does show how silly it is to argue CFP inclusion for any team that has only a bunch of G5 wins to their credit. Those games mean very little by that standard.

So is it the best 4 teams or the 4 best resumes? Of course, with you P5 circle jerkers, it’s a constant case of moving the line to whatever screws over the G5 teams, so it’s really an irrelevant question I suppose.

The best 4 teams. But honestly, how can anyone look like one of the best 4 teams beating only G5?

24-0 vs 4-2. That's a big difference.
Mannnn...[IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-

24 - 0

4 - 2

Sorry, but that's not a coincidence.

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28-2 is purrrty good...

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(09-22-2019 09:22 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:13 AM)PicksUp Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCF did deserve playoff inclusion last year, all AAC fans know it
Boise deserved BCS bowls many years, No AAC fans want to admit it
We all are a part of the same hypocrisy

Only the AAC fanboys believed that nonsense. Talk about circle jerk. You guys can go to your safe space in the AAC boards and claim UCF won the 2017 title.04-rock
When was the last time UTEP was relevant? Oh yeah never.

At least their school has a natty in one of the two sports that matter.

No one outside of AAC circles and sportswriters looking for "hits" seriously believed UCF won a National Championship in 2017.
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(09-22-2019 11:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Please show us on the doll where the AAC hurt you
Lol

Lol

Lol

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(09-22-2019 02:29 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:22 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:13 AM)PicksUp Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCF did deserve playoff inclusion last year, all AAC fans know it
Boise deserved BCS bowls many years, No AAC fans want to admit it
We all are a part of the same hypocrisy

Only the AAC fanboys believed that nonsense. Talk about circle jerk. You guys can go to your safe space in the AAC boards and claim UCF won the 2017 title.04-rock
When was the last time UTEP was relevant? Oh yeah never.

At least their school has a natty in one of the two sports that matter.

No one outside of AAC circles and sportswriters looking for "hits" seriously believed UCF won a National Championship in 2017.
Syracuse fan talking Natty's....


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(09-22-2019 02:30 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 02:29 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:22 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(09-22-2019 09:13 AM)PicksUp Wrote:  
(09-21-2019 10:13 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  UCF did deserve playoff inclusion last year, all AAC fans know it
Boise deserved BCS bowls many years, No AAC fans want to admit it
We all are a part of the same hypocrisy

Only the AAC fanboys believed that nonsense. Talk about circle jerk. You guys can go to your safe space in the AAC boards and claim UCF won the 2017 title.04-rock
When was the last time UTEP was relevant? Oh yeah never.

At least their school has a natty in one of the two sports that matter.

No one outside of AAC circles and sportswriters looking for "hits" seriously believed UCF won a National Championship in 2017.
Syracuse fan talking Natty's....


Sure, I'll hang up and listen.

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